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Staff Responsibility/Accountability
Topic Started: May 30 2017, 02:31 PM (3,021 Views)
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So I've generally kept quiet here, as I've not been very invested in V6, and lately not all that invested in SotF either. I'm also not fond of drama or controversy.

I do have to ask though - if Ciel has repeatedly pushed the activity line over the course of the game, and had in fact been inactive when Staff told him he was going terminal, how can you say the decision was unfair, except on a technicality? It seems one can only extend the benefit of the doubt for so long.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think leniency would have been a bad thing, and I wish Ciel had been able to finish as he would have wanted. (Goodness knows I had so much trouble finishing my character's death. I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't sympathize.) I can agree with the majority on this part. That said, what bothers me about this argument is that leniency is a privilege - a gift - and it's being treated as almost a right.

With the single exception of posting the inactive kills before officially responding to this thread, I don't believe this was unprofessional. (Credit to Rattle, but given the direction of the conversation, it was clear it needed something from the Staff as a whole.)

It was a clear and obvious Staff mistake to give Ciel the clear, and it was their right to correct it. I would rather it had been handled differently, particularly since he posted right away, but I can respect why they would follow the letter of the law. For what little my 02 is worth, the death post (which I haven't actually read, and am considering strictly on principle.) was a poor move.

I dunno. I've been in a position where I've had to moderate before on a much smaller scale, between a couple groups composed mostly of friends. I'm pretty familiar with how hard it is to navigate a crappy position with no truly good solution. I know emotions are high, but please let's stay civil guys. :/

I think, when it comes down to it, I'm mostly in agreement with Zetsu's well-worded first post in this thread.
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Jun 7 2017, 09:44 PM
Okay, since one of my characters has been brought into the conversation, I suppose that I have to put my two cents in now.

Yes, it can be argued that Bart was indirectly screwed by this situation too, but the thing is, I genuinely forgot that I was allowed to make inactivity avoidance posts. I mentioned that in my appeal, and immediately wrote up a post with Bart once it was his turn again a few minutes later because I thought that it would help my case. It didn't work. I had neglected the rules, and I wound up paying the price.

And even though I'm really, really, really unsatisfied about the way Bart's story ended, I really don't think that I have a leg to stand on to argue against it. It's my fault that he went inactive, and I have to accept it.
For what it's worth, I really respect you for this post mate.

I'm sorry things went poorly, but good on you for this.
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Designated Weapon: Silver Pill Box Containing Three Cyanide Capsules

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And for reference, I've seen more than a few groups screwed over by their Staff being too lenient.

Punishment is not the first resort, but there are good reasons as to why exceptions should be exceptions. Even a general policy of lenience can only extend so far.

One of the things that drew me to this site was that the Staff was serious. It was painful at times - I went through three different moderators in the course of getting Ian approved, and they each wanted massive revisions. Staff enforced activity, realism, etc, and while it was somewhat hard, SotF was so much better for it overall.

As I said, I'm not against leniency, even a fairly open, benefit-of-the-doubt policy, and wish it had been extended in this case. However, I'm leery at how the conversation has turned to the idea that Staff owed said leniency, when honestly, I'm sorry Ciel, I think you're a pretty chill guy, but you did mess up the activity part. :/
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Character #1: Boy #37 Ian Williams - Now with 55% less self-insert.
Designated Weapon: Polaroid Instant Camera With Film (Enough for 8 photographs)

Past - | 1 | 2 | (Current thread - Birds of a Feather)
Pregame - None
Island - | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | (Final Thread - Glass
)
Character #2: Boy #66 Chase Rodriguez - Adopted from Pippin.
Designated Weapon: Silver Pill Box Containing Three Cyanide Capsules

Past - None
Pregame - | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | (Last seen in - Diversions)
Island - | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | (Final Thread - Drawing to an End)



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