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Survivor: Cambodia Mafia Game Thread; y'gotta DIG DEEP if you wanna win this game
Topic Started: Jul 6 2016, 12:57 AM (9,390 Views)
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Good to see you too, Doc (I refuse to call you by any other name, ever. :P )

So I read up on the game a couple days back, I had some thoughts, didn't read closely after that, and now they're vague again. Shoot me.

I had Murder vaguely on my suspect list, but after he's been Mafia for so many games, my radar is off. I suspect his gameplay is off as well. I'm starting to lean Town, with caveats.

(Of course, on the flip side of the coin, I know he's one of the few people who has effectively determined how I think and screwed me over in recent times, so I'm not giving him too many points for what would otherwise have been a massive towntell recently.)

Backslash has been pinging me a lot, and Murder gets Town points for jumping on her. I will likely vote for her at the end of the phase, barring anything more promising.

Rorick is pretty Town.

Frogue...holy cow she's gotten to be pretty good at driving the game forward. Probably Town, but I'm going to have to work to read her.

Rorick is pretty Town.

Randomness bugs me. I'd be curious for thoughts on his/her play last game, as I didn't really follow that one. I'll read it myself, but I'm curious as to others' impressions.

Doc doesn't strike me as particularly scummy. I'd have Doc on my light Town list.

Bik is boring atm, and if we somehow get a vig, I would not cry if he disappeared. I don't feel like pursuing him now is the smartest idea.

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Oh yeah, the back and forth at the beginning of this game between Goose and Frogue was hilarious, and is what convinced me to sign up for this one after my hiatus.

That said, I'm really sad Goose just disappeared from this game again. -_-
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@Yugi - Could we please have flips on the OP?
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Jul 19 2016, 06:15 PM
oi i'm right here
Do stuff.

Besides break my triple post attempt.

Hate you for that, btw.
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@Goose - Good. Who would you lynch right now, if you had to? Show your homework.

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Prim, Danny, and Lore are all unnecessarily blank slates.

While I agree with Murder and Rorick regarding Danny's frustration, I want to see some content because I'm really irked after letting him slide....last game I played, I think? I forget which one, crud.
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Jul 19 2016, 06:20 PM
The two people I'm most suspicious of is well-documented in the posts I have made this day phase. I've been pretty active considering I've only had one RL day I've actually been able to post.
I'll check, but I don't usually forget like this -_-
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Bik is boring atm, and if we somehow get a vig, I would not cry if he disappeared. I don't feel like pursuing him now is the smartest idea.
You know better than to be directing power roles, Vyse. Not impressed.
Seriously Frogue, you don't remember all the times I've advised PRs before? ;)

That said, I think Bikriki is a distraction, and this post was more directed towards pressuring him to provide content without moving away from the lines of conversation I'm aiming to focus on. (And if he does not, I'm quite frankly comfortable with

I'm getting comfortable with my read on Backslash, but I'll get into that when I get back tonight. I want to reread the thread before I commit to a vote, and what I've given to date was my surface impressions. I want to start fleshing things out. I think we still have a couple days? (C:/

Catch you guys later tonight.

(As a further heads up, I'm suffering from mild eyestrain again, and am going back to work tomorrow, so my focus on this game will likely waver somewhat. I'll try to keep my head in the game, but just a heads up.)
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[color]@Yugi Can we have a smal, 24-48 hour extension while I get my bearings here? Thanks. :) [/color]
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Vyse
 
Bik is boring atm, and if we somehow get a vig, I would not cry if he disappeared. I don't feel like pursuing him now is the smartest idea.
You know better than to be directing power roles, Vyse. Not impressed.
I think this is actually a good point. Why offhandedly try to nudge a vig kill towards someone who hasn't contributed much good or bad, rather than someone who's been really suspicious (ie me, if I really am "pinging like crazy", as Vyse said. Which I still want more explanation of btw.)? The summation of Bik as "boring" rather than unhelpful or scummy, or just inactive, is also weird.
Because you're controversial, and interesting. You'll also talk and let me reengage from here, and use reactions to better gauge alignments, including your own. I wouldn't get anything useful form lynching Bikriki, I just don't want him to hang on without doing anything.

I also doubt we have a vig, but that's not really the point, is it?

Catch ya later, I really need to go.
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VysePresident
 
That said, I think Bikriki is a distraction, and this post was more directed towards pressuring him to provide content without moving away from the lines of conversation I'm aiming to focus on. (And if he does not, I'm quite frankly comfortable with


comfortable with him disappearing in a dark alley during the night.*

Anyway, going to go, and then reread before I flesh out my thoughts, because I'm clearing hitting a few annoying snags in my brain.
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Murder, while I'm reading, can you offer thoughts on the situation?

I'm interested in your thoughts on the situation since I made my comments.

@Bik - I'm just curious...I know you're smart, I know you're getting the hang of the game. If you view yourself as 'useless'...well, what's up man?
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Jul 10 2016, 09:34 AM
It's a bit hard to vote for someone on the first day as we don't really have that much information to go with. Are you sure that saying who we might vote for would be a good idea? What if no one will lie about who they will be voting for?
Rorick
 
I agree with Prim's last statement. As of this early phase of the game, mafia members wouldn't have a reason to lie about their vote yet. They could easily pass it off as "That one seemed suspicious to me" the next day. This will most likely change as the game progresses, but as of right now, we don't really have much to work with.


Just touching on this while I'm rereading the thread - the point of this is not to catch scum in a painfully obvious trap. The point is to limit scum options and get better control over the voting.

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Flare
 
I think people are being rather quick to throw town points at other people, and that's dangerous.
I might be misusing them, but my understanding was that town points are just like, an acknowledgment that X behaviour is kinda towny or helpful, as opposed to by any means saying that you believe X person to be town.


Why is Flare scummy even when I have his role PM? -_-

Yes, you're 100% correct Frogue.

Also, while it's academic now, I find that we're doing quite fine without the usual mechanics. I wish there'd been a little less hesitance and more mud-diving on the first day, but it's still not really that different. (Albeit I would not have lynched Toxie....{Call it cheap or whatever, and I'll rant you up a storm :P )

Readwise, one thing that's standing out to me hard in early game is how engaged Frogue is with her planning - it feels like it's being thought out on the spot, and fairly well-considered at that, which gets her Town points, and a more solid townlean. I feel like this actually is her alignment (Town) and she's putting a lot of effort into it.

Most of the early phase is kinda bland so far, bar Frogue and Goose being amazing. I probably should stop reading the first five pages though, but this was the best RBS stage ever. :P

Moving on.
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Jul 10 2016, 01:18 PM
I'm a bit suspicious of RC's post for a couple reasons:

1. it reiterates Frogue's plan without acknowledging that it is in fact Frogue's plan.

2. it says the game will be easy due to following the plan, when in fact scum can simply play along and thus make the game not-easy.

That said, it's a very minor thing and all usual RC caveats apply. This feels a bit different from his standard play to me, though.

At this point, if we're stalled and nothing better presents itself, I think we should trim the most sketch low-activity or no-content (or, ideally, both) person. Prim, Danny, Rorick, Decoy, Flare, and RC are below post limit. Of them, I feel like Prim, Rorick, and Decoy have been at least minimally constructive, RC has been weird, Danny has been non-constructive, and Flare has been potentially obstructive. I'd like to hear from all six more, but the three I didn't point out as constructive are where my attention is turned more. Will look at other folks of not low-activity later.
How is it different from RC's normal play?

How do you base your 'minimally useful' criteria for Prim, Rorick, and Decoy? (Especially Decoy in this.)
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Jul 6 2016, 03:37 PM
yeah, you're right especially considering the "someone dies everyday" thing. We basically have a time limit of 8 days to win because considering one person die during day phase and another during night time, it won't be a slow game. I was wrong thinking about it, we got to hustle.
I think you mean 8 phases, four days and four nights. That's not too much shorter than a normal game this size, though.
@Lore - Why 8 phases?

(Kindly let Lore answer this one please.)
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If Toxie is scum it's a smarter play, so he's more of a threat. If Toxie isn't scum, that means he's just genuinely unhelpful, and it's less of a loss. Either way, better vote.


Snipping this bit from Frogue's #134 because it's bugging me just a little. It reminds me when Murder was Cult Leader in Turtle's Bastard Mafia game, and was trying to lynch Slam. The silver lining is meh.

That said, it fits into context with Town Frogue, and I'm giving the benefit of the doubt for now. Just noting this for future reference.
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