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Rooster Teeth Mafia Game Thread; LEEEEEEET'S PLAY
Topic Started: Mar 20 2016, 12:59 PM (4,614 Views)
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Well, if I wasn't sure before, Murder, I sure as shit am now. I know your scum game when I see it. You've been on my list since Day Two, and nothing you've done has taken you off. You may be asking why, so let's review.

So you say early on that you approve of Town-Frogue and find him extremely dangerous.

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There's a reason I killed you night two like three games running.


Which, all well and good: we're a pretty meta-heavy community here, that's fine. And you're savvy enough to know that might land you on hot water, which is why I find it so very interesting that you still point the way to a mistrustful vig day two.

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While Frogue was likely killed by scum, there's also the chance it was a town-aligned shot by, say, a distrustful vig. If it was scum, which I think more probable, they knew Frogue wasn't faking. Town was generally going along with Frogue's claim, which lessened the distraction factor, and Frogue represented an opportunity for a cop to sanity check; if the cop did not do so last night, they now no longer can.


Now, I do like that he points towards all the reason scum could be a part of the kill, but it opens with him pointing towards vig which is ahrd to ignore. Now, admittedly, that's not very damming in itself, but then there's your response to danny pressuring you for this info, which really does read as extremely defensive.. I didn't notice at the time, since I got kind of embroiled in the debate of the day.

So Day 3 opens up with RC's gambit against me, which you don't explicitly back (at no point does your vote fall on me) but which you are pretty clear you're gonna go with.

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I'm totally down for lynching Grim but would like to toss on the typical caveat that we have a lot of time to talk and shouldn't throw the phase away. I'd like to make sure we hear from most folks and don't see a quick-hammer (accidental or otherwise) that screws town. Especially interested in hearing from Vyse and RC, as Vyse is largely confirmed town and RC is likely to end up in bad shape next phase[...]But yeah, barring something massive, my vote'll land on Grim


Now, what I don't like here is that you're soft-pushing me in a way that lets you ultimately back RC's claim if I'm in hammer range and still buys you towncred when, as you so eloquently put it, RC is going to "end up in bad shape next phase." And in fact you never drop a vote, not even when Yugi reveals how things have gone down.

And after stating that you view Vyse as confirmed town and that you're interested in hearing from him, Vyse is conveniently dead for the opening of Day 4. And your response to this is to a) be extremely defensive...

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If you're legit town, you'd be super hesitant to do so, because it opens the possibility of a mafia quickhammer assuming two remaining scum.


And to assume some very bizarre mafia structures

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Was a bit unsure who's scum, but now I'm 100% it's Flare/Danny allied or Flare/Grim multiball.


Which are both claims designed not to scum-hunt but instead to point the finger every way that's not him. Two mafias in a twelve-person game? Fairly ridiculous from the outset, especially given that we've consistently seen only one kill a night up until this last round. And Flare and Danny? Flare is the person you've been hunting since Day 2, first putting a vote on him in the middle of a train building towards RC, and specifically identify our suspicion of RC as a mark of how scummy we seem, while quietly pointing the finger at Danny and Yugi as well.

You constantly pointed the finger at him until RC's big gambit distracted us.

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I still think Flare's super bad news. A lot of his last post strikes me as iffy. There's a lot of talking around points and trying to rescue his impression, but the talking points he's using aren't ones that naturally arise from his typical playstyle.


And Danny is really the only person Vyse confidently townread

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Danny is so freaking obvious Town it hurts


The only person not part of your suspicions is Bikriki. So, to summarize: of 5 alive people, you are pointing the finger at everyone except the one confirmed Townie we have, which includes the guy scum gambitted against, the guy one of your strongest townreads townread, and the guy you've been hunting all game, including backing a train on him when another was forming on RC.

I'm usually all for giving town more time, but you're in the open now and I've played this game with you before. You're desperate and hoping something sticks.

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I can prove myself town. Town is screwed if you're legit the survivor, Grim, but that's how the game goes.

I'd ask you to unvote so nobody quickhammers while I type this.
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I am the other lover. I was told RC was town. If you look at his claim, you'll note he was to die if I did, but the reverse was not true.

This is why I stood by him all game. The reason I didn't out him when he claimed incorrect flavor is that he claimed my flavor. I had no idea what he was doing, but since I knew where he'd gotten the flavor from, I went with it.

I think it's pretty clear on a game design level why I can't be scum given that. It'd let town take out 2/3 of the scum team just by lynching me. In fact, I'm pretty sure my role was a balancing factor edging the game in town's favor, likely to account for whatever killed everyone yesterday.

I probably should have figured RC was scum sooner given the frankly bizarre nature of my role--a lover pair where only one side dies is weird, but I guess it should have tipped me off that for me to win, RC had to die.

But yeah, my role PM confirmed RC as town. That's why I trusted him.
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Now, what I don't like here is that you're soft-pushing me in a way that lets you ultimately back RC's claim if I'm in hammer range and still buys you towncred when, as you so eloquently put it, RC is going to "end up in bad shape next phase." And in fact you never drop a vote, not even when Yugi reveals how things have gone down.

To quickly address this:

You'll note a few things here. First off, my post is extremely underdeveloped as I note I was busy IRL. Secondly, everything that went down, from Yugi's claim to RC's flaking, occurred with no posts from me. This is because I was AFK. Frankly, otherwise I'd've probably come out in RC's favor until his admission, given he was, to my mind, confirmed town.
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Apr 13 2016, 12:36 AM
Two mafias in a twelve-person game? Fairly ridiculous from the outset, especially given that we've consistently seen only one kill a night up until this last round.
So did the vig/JOAT shoot the confirmed cop or the confirmed tracker? Or does one mafia have the power to kill three people in one night phase?

You're totally failing to consider setup, and you're rushing the phase before the person everyone agrees is twon can comment. Why?
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Grim Wolf
Apr 13 2016, 12:36 AM
The only person not part of your suspicions is Bikriki. So, to summarize: of 5 alive people, you are pointing the finger at everyone except the one confirmed Townie we have, which includes the guy scum gambitted against, the guy one of your strongest townreads townread, and the guy you've been hunting all game, including backing a train on him when another was forming on RC.
Read again. Closely.

Bik is confirmed town. Why? Because he's the only reason RC died. For Bik to be scum, he claimed something stupid to sell out his own partner for no reason. He could've made the exact same claim and said he'd blocked Yugi and been in better shape as scum. He did not. Even Flare thinks Bik's defense is unbeatable. Everyone in the game agrees, except you... who supposedly have no stock in the decision.

Why the rush to a lynch as survivor? Why cut off discussion?
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As to desperate and hoping something sticks:

Nonsense. If I were, you know what I'd do?

I'd claim scum. Right now. If it really were a situation with me and one other scum member against you and two townies, I'd say this: "Grim, buddy, pal, you're going to vote one of these townies with me, the mafia dude, or else my buddy's gonna shoot you tonight and we lose together. I'm totally petty enough to make sure we both lose if one of us does, and I respect your play thus far enough to offer you a seat at the winner's table otherwise. You flat out said at LyLo you pick the side most likely to end the game quickest."

Now, if you're actually the survivor there's a decent chance that scum's going to turn around and do exactly what I just said, in which case a. I told you so and b. I humbly request you throw your kingmaker vote to town's side to punish scum for stealing my brilliant strategy. But right now, if we're somehow not multiball (which we are), scum/third party unambiguously outnumber town and have zero reason to bother with secrecy unless they think someone isn't gonna play ball.
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Also, as per my rule of not losing sleep over this game, this is my last post/check until tomorrow. Flare, on the 5% chance you're legit town I ask you to drop your vote long enough for us to discuss at least. I'd hate for scum to win off town knee-jerking due to poor math. Grim, you're either scum or survivor so I'm not gonna hold my breath, but if you wanna hand town the win, same deal. You know I claim stupid stuff with gambits all the time. I've claimed SK and swung it. I'd seriously drop all pretense and blackmail you for an insta-win if it'd work for me--I view the odds as greater than getting you to change your mind through logical appeals. Unfortunately, I'm not in that spot. If you are third-party scum, you've been sufficiently outed that you're toast this night phase anyways, and all you get to do is take a shot at deciding whether town or mafia wins. You can do the same during the day, and I'd respectfully request you consider throwing your lot in with town, if for no other reason than that I'm saying please. :)

Also EBWOP it's me who needs to read more carefully; I thought Grim said Bik was not confirmed town and Danny was. Grim, you do realize it's impossible that Bik, Danny, Flare, and you are all town/benign third party, yes? Especially given that RC was dead if I died, letting town potentially win day one off a fluke vote?
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Due to only one person dying on both night one or two, I am a bit taken by surprise. It's way too early for me to form any coherent thoughts right now, though. Ask me after my third cup of coffee.

For courtesy's sake: I roleblocked Vyse last night.
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A quick thing; those posts at the start of the round were done at 2 AM in the morning. I really wasn't coherent.
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As they tightened the extension cord noose around his neck to the sound of strangled chortling, MURDERWEASEL: GAVIN FREE-ARSONIST had to make one last play. "Guys, guys, guys...wot if, you had a million dollars,"

"Lotta money," BIKRIKI: BARBARA DUNKLEMAN-TOWN ROLEBLOCKER interjected.

"Lotta money," Gavin agreed, "but wot if to keep it, you had to sent all your friends on fire? Eh? Eh?"

"Gavin..." started FLARE: MILES LUNA-TOWN BACK-UP FLAVOR COP, "did someone pay you a million dollars to kill everyone in the office?"

"Well...no. But, but, wot if, though? I mean, come on, right? You'd be for it, yeah?"

"No," said Miles.

"Nope," answered GRIM WOLF: BRUCE GREENE-SURVIVOR and d4NNYrULX: JAMES WILLEMS-TOWN COMMUTER in unison.

"...nah," Barbara finished, after entirely too much thinking. Together, she and Miles booted Gavin's chair out from underneath him and left him to hang.

As the other two were distracted with the captivating display of Gavin's bizarrely choreographed death, Bruce and James slowly took out their guns and removed their masks to reveal GRIM WOLF: GEOFF RAMSEY-MAFIA GODFATHER and d4NNYrULX: JACK PATILLO-MAFIA ROLECOP

"DADDY'S HOME!"

With two shots, the week of horror came to a close.

"Man. We kinda...we kinda burned a whole bridge here, didn't we Geoff?"

"Nah, we did what we had to do. I'm sure nobody cared about any of that RWBY or podcast shit. We're the heart of this company. Maybe we can get Ray to come back now that all those other pricks are dead, people would forget about murder for that."

"I dunno. One thing still bothers me. We didn't kill that intern, and they weren't burned alive so they weren't part of Gavin's whole...thing. So what happened there?"

"H-hello," a voice from the conference room shakily called out, "can I come out now?"

"...what the fuck."

Turns out the kid fell asleep on the job and was too scared to tell anybody when all the commotion started. Didn't want to lose his job. They all had a good laugh about it. Geoff sent him out for coffee.

As he turned to leave, Geoff pressed the gun back into Jack's hand and mouthed "No witnesses."


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