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Order Of The Stick Mafia Fallout Thread
Topic Started: Jan 28 2015, 11:24 AM (973 Views)
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I'm going to go ahead and open up the Fallout Thread to discussion while I gather my notes. There will be an update post once they're added here in the OP. Thanks for playing, folks!

PART 1: ROLES

The Town:

ELAN(Decoy73)


VAARSUVIUS(MurderWeasel)


DURKON(Slamexo)


O-CHUL(Yugikun)


MR. SCRUFFLES(NotAFlyingToy)


LIEN(Espional)


HINJO(MarzipanStrudel)


HALEY(General Goose)


LORD SHOJO(RemoteControl)


ROY(Grim Wolf)


BELKAR(Seth Crimson)


The Scum:

DAIYMO KUBOTA(Sideliner/BadB)


XYKON(Un-Persona)


REDCLOAK(Dmboogie)


MONSTER IN THE DARKNESS(VysePresident)


PART 2: GAME DESIGN

The Azure City Arc is a siege. I wanted to convey that clearly from the start with the array of power roles available to both Town and Mafia. The Town has no innate killing potential outside of its lynch. The Mafia has no innate ability to negate the Town's defenses. It's a stand off where the key play was going to be who could outmaneuver who and get their assets in the right place to strike at any given time.

A lot of the power roles were firmly on the Townside, which was problematic from a design standpoint at first. My balancing factor for this was to create a lot of roles that could help and hinder the town in pretty much equal measure, as well as one or two that were pure hindrances while being town aligned.

In the former category, we have The Roleblocker, the Thief, and The Neighborizer. While the Roleblocker and the Thief did little to hinder the town overall other than drawing some spurious conclusions and functionally negating each other during the endgame, it was the Neighborizer that really allowed the Mafia to shine in this game. The choice to recruit VysePresident on Night 2, giving the Mafia access to the Neighborhood Town Block, was exactly the sort of worst case scenario when I created the role.

In the latter category, we have the Beloved Leader and the (Secretly Insane) Tracker. Surprisingly, the Beloved Leader's handicap never came into play, other than potentially shaping NotAFlyingToy's play style. The Tracker ended up hindering the town in the least expected way possible. There was no better way for the town to realize Belkar was Insane than for Goose to steal Decoy's TRACK action, and then immediately steal Seth's "...track?" action afterwards. The only person who openly noted that the latter action was likely useless, however, was Vyse.

The "...track?" action is something that I find particularly amusing. I admit that it is an entirely bastard role, placed to sow misinformation. Each night it was used, the tracker would receive information that the target "visited" a randomly selected player. The misinformation from this play only really came into affect in the last two days with General Goose, so it ended up impacting the game less than I expected.

One thing I believe I would remove editing the build in hindsight would be the Cop. It was functionally removed already, and the game ran smoothly without it. A cop might have unfairly balanced things towards the Town and over-ridden my desire for results dictated by player input and maneuvering, not role dominance.

All in all, the game played out about like I hoped it would. The outcome was weighed mostly on player success and error, with VysePresident and DMBoogie strategically targeting town members and pushing lynches that were just plausible enough to keep them afloat, while playing on past experience to spread misinformation and distrust through the town. I'm pleased with the result, and I will never, ever trust Vyse again.

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Edited by Emprexx Plush, Jan 28 2015, 02:11 PM.
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Eh, twas worth a shot.
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I was actually pretty confident in a boogie/Naft mafia, so well-done Vyse.
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Role PMs have been added to the OP. Next up, game design.
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jfc wes could you at least check how to spell the names before sending out role PMs
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General Goose
Jan 28 2015, 01:17 PM
jfc wes could you at least check how to spell the names before sending out role PMs
But it gets you so salty, and this amuses me.
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The OP has been updated with some game design notes and the Mafia, Neighborhood, and Death Chats.
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WHAT.

WHAT.
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Well played, Vyse. For the record, I warned y'all neighbors! I warned you, bro!

EDIT: And well played by Boogie and Un too. I'm focusing on Vyse because he led us on really well; I had a pretty solid feeling that if there was a traitor neighbrside it was him, but got thrown hard by Goose's results.
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Vyse you magnificent son of a bitch. Well done.

And here I was feeling bad that Murder wasn't going to win it based on a technicality. I fucked up so much during this game, but I definitely wouldn't have seen a Vyse as scum flip coming a mile away. Really good show.

My goal was to hit scum and have them think twice about hitting me the last phase, trying for a false WIFOM type maneuver. I figured I could pull it off if I left boogie alone as the sole scum role, hoping on his general indecisiveness when it comes to Mafia to have JUST enough doubt so that he'd try for Vyse or Goose instead of me once Toben got hit.

Didn't really work out how I wanted, though. All in all, a very fun game - albeit plagued by inactivity, which is kind of the norm nowadays - and I wish I'd dedicated more time to it so that I could be properly flabbergasted when Vyse spanked me.
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In fact, to sum up my whole feelings on scum play this game:

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Heh, thanks guys.

I actually nearly claimed scum in the game thread, after the vote, but decided to play it safe. If nothing else, I wanted to save the spoilers for the Fallout thread and who knew, Goose might have had a Venge kill or something.

Apparently, that saved the game for us. Kinda freaked out about that, actually.
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Nice one Vyse! Never would have guessed you were scum.

This was fun, But I think I'm gonna stay out of Mafia for a while so I can focus on other things.
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