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Topic Started: Jan 12 2014, 10:45 PM (34,419 Views)
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Jan 31 2014, 11:28 PM
Ahaha

Ohohoh

Ehehehe

And you don't think for a single second that I might have been trying to provoke him? That's rich.

And in the case of number six, Naft continually changed the quotes in his posts to Scum!Ciel. That was a reaction to that.

You should do better research Persy.
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I'm also not buying any of this. This, once again, seems like you're back-tracking.

"NAFT IS SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM"

"I've actually been null reading him the whole time."

"Disregard the first part, I was just trying to provoke him."

There is nothing about your play that suggests this is a logical progression for you. Your play is very reactive. Very in the moment. You don't seem to put forth long-term plans like that. If you'd said you got caught up in defending yourself, that'd at least be believable, but this doesn't sit well with me.
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Oh oh oh. Well, seems pretty open and shut doesn't it?

I explained my opinion, it's exactly how I described it. I even mentioned my aggression from Day one in my explanation. I was calling Naft Scum Scrub and clawed at him repeatedly in order to get a reaction. When he said he was building a case against me, I let him go for it.

If you don't believe me, I don't care, because I trust neither of you. If you think I am scum, I don't care, because the way you two seemed so eager to jump on me appears planned ahead of time.

If you are going to push a lynch, then try it. Come at me. Do it. I'm tired and I simply don't give a shit.
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Ooh, do I get to join the "Ciel doesn't trust us party"? Cause I'm not buying it.

Yeah, this reeks of backtracking, and it doesn't help that the person you were pushing ended up being the doctor. It's really, really hard to buy.


And since you gave the invitation....

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Oh oh oh. Well, seems pretty open and shut doesn't it?

I explained my opinion, it's exactly how I described it. I even mentioned my aggression from Day one in my explanation. I was calling Naft Scum Scrub and clawed at him repeatedly in order to get a reaction. When he said he was building a case against me, I let him go for it.

If you don't believe me, I don't care, because I trust neither of you. If you think I am scum, I don't care, because the way you two seemed so eager to jump on me appears planned ahead of time.

If you are going to push a lynch, then try it. Come at me. Do it. I'm tired and I simply don't give a shit.

Wow.

Woooooooooooooooow.

I dunno why you decided to take such a piss-poor attitude and why you thought it was acceptable to behave like a little kid, but it does not help at all.
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... Where the fuck have you been Flare?

Man, whatever. This shit smells of pre-planning and I haven't the slightest inclination to fight it right now.
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Feb 1 2014, 12:43 AM
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Oh oh oh. Well, seems pretty open and shut doesn't it?

I explained my opinion, it's exactly how I described it. I even mentioned my aggression from Day one in my explanation. I was calling Naft Scum Scrub and clawed at him repeatedly in order to get a reaction. When he said he was building a case against me, I let him go for it.

If you don't believe me, I don't care, because I trust neither of you. If you think I am scum, I don't care, because the way you two seemed so eager to jump on me appears planned ahead of time.

If you are going to push a lynch, then try it. Come at me. Do it. I'm tired and I simply don't give a shit.

Wow.

Woooooooooooooooow.

I dunno why you decided to take such a piss-poor attitude and why you thought it was acceptable to behave like a little kid, but it does not help at all.
Look, I'm sorry if the way I worded that sounded childish Persy. I'm tired and today hasn't been a good day for me.

To explaina bit more detail; I thought Naft was bluffing with that sheep me. I figured if I pushed back it'd at least prove something to him. That's just how I've played it in EM, you have to push sheeps or else you get run over. His ISO told me otherwise, that I had been completely careless in how I was playing. I felt like I seriously fucked up. So yeah.

That's why I went at Naft the way I did. That's why I said that I said I thought he was null after the fact. That's why I didn't respond to his ISO. That's why I answered your question the way I did.
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Jan 31 2014, 09:48 PM
Alrighty, time to nut up or shut up.

Naft and Slam are interesting cases of townies. I am interested into what Ciel has to say about Naft now that he's dead and doc now that Slam is dead.

I would also like to hear from the "weirdos" Psyche and Vyse, and why they thought it'd be a plausible or good idea to try and get a lynch on me so late in the phase during the last day and tried to stall the boogie train.

No, the fact that boogie flipped town does not hold any water in this.
In short, I did that because I've been burned too many times for not standing for my reads: (Feel free to skip the spoilers. They're just for making a point.)

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The point of this isn't that I'm a scum/town hunting genius. I'm not even close. But after making so many mistakes due to not taking a stand? I'm willing to take some risks at this point.

Dmboogie's claim leaned non-scum for me, particularly as I was and am somewhat suspicious of the bandwagon, and I was willing to risk giving him another day to do something on the off-chance somebody actually listened. After getting burned so many times, most recently on Bro, I was willing to risk going against a lynch that I believe is bad, particularly as I had a much stronger preference for lynching you. A bad lynch is worse than a no-lynch, and I'm willing to take the backlash, if need be.

There's time, and I'm not going to vote yet, but at this point, I'm still leaning towards you and Deamon as my first two choices for a lynch. I'll try to add something real to the conversation when I get the chance.
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Feb 1 2014, 12:45 AM
... Where the fuck have you been Flare?
Explanation: I told myself I wouldn't read this thread until I got my V5 post done. Then I was a lazy prick and took forever to write that post, sooo....
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I was wrong about boogie, there's not really much to it beyond that.

I like the Ciel wagon, but Flare mentioning NAFT being the doc against Ciel is giving me pause.
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Points.

1) Zabriel and I are suspicious, town, we need to be investigated. We led that boogie train and pushed it pretty aggressively, and while I'm happy not to be looked at its sloppy townplay and we need to get our stuff together.

2) Ciel is twitchy and worth investigating, but there's a bigger issue.

NAFT was an excellent candidate for a mid-game lynch, so the fact that he's out means that he must have hit the mark in one of his accusations. My immediate instinct says Doc, actually, because I've seen this kind of play before while working with him
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Feb 1 2014, 10:21 AM
1) Zabriel and I are suspicious, town, we need to be investigated. We led that boogie train and pushed it pretty aggressively, and while I'm happy not to be looked at its sloppy townplay and we need to get our stuff together.





Here I can agree, though more at Zabriel than you.
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2) Ciel is twitchy and worth investigating, but there's a bigger issue.

There is a bigger issue because Ciel is almost pure policy lynch to me. I'm not so much convinced he's actually scum insomuch as I'm convinced he's very flaily, destructive town.
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NAFT was an excellent candidate for a mid-game lynch, so the fact that he's out means that he must have hit the mark in one of his accusations. My immediate instinct says Doc, actually, because I've seen this kind of play before while working with him

Your avenue here doesn't make much sense. Naft was town-reading me all of Day 2, and even admitted he was just kinda poking at me on Day 1 to see how I'd react, because that's what he does every game ever. Why do you go after me instead of his much stronger push on Ciel, especially when you're already scum-reading Ciel as well?

This is suspicious to me. You hand wave away the suspicions on Ciel almost immediately and then ignore him as the most obvious avenue of your investigations on NAFT's death. Doesn't really fit with your style to ignore the big glaring neon scum sign there.
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