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MurderWeasel's Brutally Hardcore Realism Litmus Test; Because I finally got around to this
Topic Started: May 24 2013, 01:32 AM (2,658 Views)
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So, I've mentioned my distaste for the old realism litmus test a time or two, and have proposed a new one. Basically, I think it's a self-congratulatory mess of feel-good fluff insofar as most of what it tests for gets a profile booted back hard in the basic stages or is totally subjective and thus allows wiggle room. Well, because I have enough stuff to procrastinate on now to justify wasting time on this, I have created my own, which is largely free of the faults I perceive elsewhere.

So yeah, here goes. This one cranks down the crazy and cranks up the stuff-I-see-too-much-of-while-critiquing-characters.

Note that plenty of characters can have some of these traits and be totally fine, good characters. It's when they appear in high concentrations that eyes start to roll.

PART ONE: APPEARANCE
  • Is your character over 6'0" (if male) or 5'10" (if female)? +1 point
  • Is your character over 6'3" (if male) or 6'1" (if female)? +2 additional points
  • Is your character under 5'2" (if male) or 5'0" (if female)? +1 point
  • Is your character under 4'10"? +2 additional points
  • Does your character's BMI place them in the twenty-fifth percentile or below for their age? +1 point
  • The twelfth percentile or lower? +2 additional points
  • Is your character's BMI over 30? +2 points
  • Is it because they're highly athletic? +1 point instead
  • Are they more atheletic than almost everyone else in their sport/team, though? +1 additional point
  • Does your character have hair dyed an unnatural color? +1 point
  • Several unnatural colors at once? +2 additional points
  • Does your character dress unusually fashionably for their age? +1 point
  • Does your character dress in unusually trashy clothes (either overtly sexual or in horrible shape)? +1 point
  • Does your character dress inappropriately for the era in which they live, on an everyday basis? +5 points
  • Does your character have an unusual (though natural) eye color (particularly vivid or dull colors, mostly; if you noted it in a lot of detail in your profile, it's probably unusual)? +2 points
  • Does your character have heterochromea? +5 points
  • Is your character usually pale (if it's because they stay inside all the time, that totally counts)? +1 point
  • Is your character unusually tanned? +1 point
  • Does your character dress like a stereotypical person of their social group? +1 point
  • Does your character have hair longer than shoulder-length? +1 point
  • Longer than waist length? +2 additional points
  • Does your character have perfect complexion all the time? +1 point
  • Does your character wear an unusual or iconic piece of headgear (like a hat that's not a common variety)? +1 point
  • Does your character never wear makeup, despite it not really making sense for them to eschew it? +2 points
  • Is your character unusually developed for their age (particularly full-bodied, a full beard, etc.)? +1 point
  • Does your character only smile rarely? +2 points
  • Do they never smile at all? +5 points
  • Is your character really good at hiding their emotions? +2 points
  • Does your character have notable scarring (anything visible on a cursory glance counts)? +1 point
  • Totally disfiguring scarring? +3 additional points
  • Does your character have a tattoo? +1 point
  • Is it a facial or extremely large (full-arm or bigger) tattoo? +2 additional points
  • Do they have several tattoos? Add the totals for all of them, but don't go over nine points.

PART TWO: HISTORY
  • Does your character's name mean something in a foreign language that is not their parents' native language? +1 point
  • Does your character's name describe their personality in any way? +2 points
  • Is it instead ironically opposed to their personality? +2 points
  • Did your character immigrate to the United States during their lifetime? +2 points
  • Was it after elementary school? +1 additional point
  • Was it after middle school? +2 additional points
  • Was it just before senior year? +2 additional points
  • Was it during senior year? +2 additional point (on top of all the ones above)
  • Did your character move to the pregame city from another part of the United States? +1 point
  • Was it after middle school? +1 additional point
  • Was it just before senior year? +2 additional points
  • Was it during senior year? +2 additional points (on top of all the ones above)
  • Does your character hate their new home? +2 points
  • Does your character believe Americans are inferior? +4 points
  • Does your character follow an unusual religion or philosophy? +2 points
  • One that is largely historical/outdated? +2 additional points
  • Is your character directly modeled after a stereotype of any sort as the source of all their primary characteristics? +15 points
  • Is your character from an unusually poor family? +1 point
  • A destitute family? +1 additional point
  • Was your character ever homeless? +3 points
  • Is your character from an unusually wealthy family? +1 point
  • A super rich family? +1 additional point
  • Does your character's family have, or have they ever had, servants? +3 points
  • Is your character constantly unable to find any money, forced to scrimp for even the most minor luxury? +1 point
  • Is your character given whatever they want, the nicest cars, cash on demand? +2 points
  • Did your character ever go to private school? +1 point
  • Was it a religious school? +1 additional point
  • Did they only change to public school right before high school? +2 points
  • During high school? +2 additional points
  • Did your character hate transferring to a public school? +1 point
  • Were they forced to by their parents for "balance"? +1 point
  • To learn to interact with the lower class? +3 points
  • Has your character ever skipped a grade? +1 point
  • Two grades? +5 points
  • More than two grades? +20 points
  • Was your character ever held back a grade? +1 point
  • Two grades? +5 points
  • More? +20 points
  • Has your character lost a relative or friend in their life that they remember? +2 points
  • Was it a friend or an extended family member they were particularly close to? +8 points
  • A sibling? +10 points
  • A parent? +10 points
  • Both parents? +20 points
  • Was it in a particularly traumatic way (sudden disease, freak accident)? Double the points
  • Was it murder? Triple them
  • Did your character lose multiple people? The above points are cumulative!
  • Does your character have ties to organized crime in their family? +10 points
  • Has your character ever been in a notable fight? +1 point
  • One that left someone seriously injured (any time the hospital gets involved, or should have, this has occurred) +5 additional points
  • One where the aggressor (your character or the other, whoever started it. Either if it was mutual) got away with no consequences? +5 additional points
  • Was your character routinely bullied at any point? +2 points
  • Did it cause them serious harm (physical or mental/emotional)? +2 additional points
  • Do they still carry the scars today? +2 additional points
  • Has it led to them being unable or unwilling to trust their peers? +5 additional points
  • Was your character a bully? +2 points
  • Did they always avoid getting punished? +2 additional points
  • Despite causing serious harm/breaking laws? +2 additional points
  • Do they have no remorse? +5 additional points
  • Do they have no understanding that what they did was bad? +5 additional points
  • Has your character ever killed anyone? +100 points
  • Was your character abused? +5 points
  • Is it dealt with fully and in appropriate detail in their bio? If no, +10 additional points and my great ire
  • Does your character smoke? +1 point
  • Despite being underage? +1 additional point
  • Do they smoke a lot/habitually (more than two or three cigarettes a day)? +1 additional point
  • Does your character drink semi-regularly? +1 point
  • Do they have a fake ID? +1 additional point
  • Do they go to bars? +1 additional point
  • Does your character do drugs? +1 point
  • Frequently (more than once a month)? +1 additional point
  • Really often (more than once a week)? +1 additional point
  • Every other day or more frequently? +3 additional points
  • Does your character do harder drugs than pot? +2 points
  • Frequently (more than once a month)? +3 additional points
  • Really often (more than once a week)? +5 additional points
  • Every other day or more frequently? +15 additional points
  • Is your character sexually active? +1 point
  • Do they use birth control? If no, +1 additional point
  • Despite that, have they avoided pregnancy/STDs? +3 additional points
  • Have they slept with more than three partners? +2 additional points
  • More than five? +2 additional points
  • Ten? +2 additional points
  • Fifteen? +5 additional points
  • Twenty? +10 additional points
  • Has your character ever had a one-night stand? +2 points
  • More than once? +3 additional points
  • Frequently/habitually? +10 additional points
  • Does your character engage in all sorts of risky/shaky behavior (drugs, illegal activities, frequent promiscuous sex) yet somehow keep it from their parents and the teachers? +2 points
  • And yet, everyone in their grade knows all about it? +4 additional points
  • Does your character breaks serious laws (stealing, selling drugs, etc.) +3 points
  • Often? +3 additional points
  • Is your character in a gang? +5 points
  • Like, a real, organized crime, hurt-people gang? +15 additional points
  • Does your character know how to use any sort of weapon with any degree of proficiency? +3 points
  • A knife? +4 additional points
  • A gun? +6 additional points
  • Does your character have a physical disability/deformity? +3 points
  • One that doesn't actually hinder them very much in daily life? +5 additional points
  • Did you list it as a disadvantage anyways? +10 additional points
  • Does your character have some unusual disease? +3 points
  • A social disorder? +5 points
  • As a result of being bullied? +5 additional points
  • Asperger's? +3 additional points
  • Is your character exceptionally smart for their age? +2 points
  • A genius? +10 additional points
  • Is your character so stupid that they really shouldn't be let outside alone? +10 points
  • Has your character ever had a particularly poor relationship with a member of their immediate family? (genuine,, lasting dislike, basically)? +1 point
  • Is it ongoing today? +2 additional points
  • Have the other members of the family made no effort to make things better? +3 additional points
  • Because they haven't noticed (it counts if your character keeps it secret)? +3 additional points
  • Does this apply to your character's entire immediate family? Double the points, unless your character lives with only one person
  • Did one of your character's parents walk out on their family? +1 point
  • Due to infidelity? +1 additional point
  • Drugs? +1 additional point
  • Did they totally sever all contact? +2 additional points
  • And not pay child support? +2 additional points
  • Does your character have a twin? +1 point
  • Who acts exactly like them or exactly opposite them? +2 additional points
  • Who dresses in theme with them? +2 additional points
  • Is your character immensely skilled for their age in any area? +1 points
  • Competing/interacting at a state-competition level with a chance to place? +2 additional points
  • A national level? +2 additional points
  • Do they attract media attention above and beyond typical for their sport/endeavor? +3 additional points
  • Do they make notable amounts of money off of their skill? +2 additional points
  • Multiple skills for any of the above? They all count.

PART THREE: PERSONALITY
  • Does your character believe they are superior to the bulk of their peers? +5 points
  • Despite clear and pressing evidence to the contrary? +10 additional points
  • Does your character avoid contractions in their speech? +2 points
  • Does your character talk in overly verbose or flowery language? +3 points
  • And never use the wrong word? +5 additional points
  • And only use the wrong word when it's funny? +3 additional points
  • Does your character think they're smarter than everyone else? +3 points
  • Despite being obviously pretty dumb? +5 additional points
  • Is your character "random"? +3 points
  • Do they have no social filter? +3 points
  • Are they not shunned for the hideously antisocial behavior this entails? +5 additional points
  • Does your character have anger management issues? +2 points
  • That they have made no effort to control? +2 additional points
  • That have never caused them big trouble? +5 additional points
  • Is your character in the same basic emotional state over 50% of the time in pregame/their daily lives? +4 points
  • Over 75% of the time? +4 additional points
  • Over 90% of the time? +10 additional points
  • Is your character a sadist? +4 points
  • For no reason? +10 additional points
  • Is your character a religious fundamentalist (atheists can qualify for this)? +2 points
  • A total fanatic? +5 additional points
  • Does this lead to them looking down on vast swathes of their classmates? +3 additional points
  • Do they absolutely refuse to consider they may be wrong/view anyone as an exception? +5 additional points
  • Do they never face consequences for this behavior, besides from other player characters? +5 additional points
  • Is your character actively racist? +5 points
  • For no reason? +5 additional points
  • Despite routinely interacting with people of other races? +5 additional points
  • Is your character actively sexist? +5 points
  • For no reason? +5 additional points
  • Despite routinely interacting with people of other genders? +5 additional points
  • Is your character actively homophobic? +5 points
  • For no reason? +5 additional points
  • Despite routinely interacting with people of other sexual orientations? +5 additional points
  • Is your character supposed to be a great speaker/very convincing? +2 points
  • Do their posts, however, totally beat the reader over the head with manipulations so obvious no real person would ever go along with them? +10 points
  • Does your character have some sort of unusual phobia? +1 point
  • Stemming from a single traumatic childhood incident? +1 additional point
  • That often affects their life in a serious way? +2 additional points
  • Yet they've received only cursory help/treatments? +2 additional points
  • No treatments at all? +3 additional points instead
  • Does your character overreact to situations all the time? +1 point
  • In ways that aren't really something you'd see in real life? +3 additional points
  • Is your character calm almost all the time? +1 point
  • Even internally? +1 additional point
  • Without any effort? +2 additional points
  • Even in truly terrible, life-or-death situations (this counts only if the above is true, if your character goes calm due to shutting down when overloaded, that doesn't count) +3 additional points

PART FOUR: META STUFF
  • Does your character represent an ideal? +3 points
  • Do you know your character is going to be a player? +5 points
  • Before the game begins, are you hoping that your character will make finals? +2 points
  • Will win? +3 additional points
  • Do you view your character's role in the story as, primarily, comic relief? +10 points
  • Do you view your character as one of SOTF's main characters (This does not count if you view all the students as main characters, or even all the students who make it as far as your character has) +5 points
  • Would you compromise your character's characterization to get a kill? +10 points
  • Is your character a sexual fantasy of yours in any way, shape, or form? +10 points
  • Is your character inspired by a character from another RP you were in? +2 points
  • A character from some published work of fiction or a real-life celebrity? +3 points
  • Is your character a ripoff/direct port of a character from a published work of fiction/a celebrity? +10 points
  • Is your character an idealized version of you (non-idealized SIs don't count)? +10 points
  • Is your character revenge porn of someone you hate? +10 points
  • Do you try to make your character the center of every scene they are in? +4 points
  • Does your character have another character who is important to them (close friend, SO, etc.) who is also one of your characters (NPCs do not count)? +3 points
  • Is it a sibling or twin? +3 additional points
  • Do they often share a thread? +3 additional points
  • Will one of them kill the other? +5 additional
  • Does your character only have disadvantages from traits that are normally thought of as positive (loyalty, compassion, etc.)? +5 points
  • Does your character only have disadvantages from physical traits (weakness, an injury, etc.) or phobias? +5 points
  • Only from a mix of the above two categories? +3 points
  • Does your character have no legitimate disadvantages? +10 points and a huge frowny face for whoever approved you
  • Does your character have no legitimate advantages? +5 points


This is very much a work in progress. If anyone has any suggestions for how to improve it/things I missed/ratings changes, I'd love to hear them. It's woefully incomplete.

Also, I'm not adding a scale, at least not yet. The rough gist is, big numbers get you a frowny face and small ones get you a smiley. I think almost every character will accumulate some points on a trip through this test, unlike the old one; my kids sure would. This is of course all subjective, but I feel this is a more accurate representation of the reality of SOTF at the start of V5.
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I'm definitely intending to give this a full working with both of my characters, and I can see that its a far improved tool over the mary sue test in regard to the SotF standard of realism. What I would reccomend, MurderWeasel, is embedding or nesting those points that coincide with a parent point.

Example:
Is your character's hair an unusual colour?
- Multiple colours at the same time?

It just makes it a lot easier on the eyes when following along.
Edited by NotAFlyingToy, May 24 2013, 01:43 AM.
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COMIN OUT OF MY CAGE AND I'VE BEEN DOIN JUST FINE
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Juhan:
1 point (over 6'0)
1 point (BMI under 25)
1 point (usually pale)
2 points (routinely bullied)
....maayybeee +2 (exceptionally smart) [I have no idea how much is exceptionally smart. Like one of the top people in their class?]
Carmina:
1 point (hair past shoulders)
2 points (routinely bullied)

Juhan - 5-7 points
Carmina - 3 points
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looks like Zoe got 4 points, 3 of which i gave her because she "talk in overly verbose or flowery language" when she gets carried away with her art. i really lucked out here because there's no section here for "is your character a successful graphic artist at age 18 whose shit gets featured in ad campaigns for legit-assed companies". i feel like i'd get points for that one if it were there

without the verbose language shit, which only comes up in a fraction of her conversations, she's at 1 point for being sexually active. suck it, nerds?
Jeremy Franco is alive. You can write a better ending, goddammit.

Charlie DuClare is dead. And nothing was easy anymore except to smile.
Julian Avery is dead. Courage was the man with a gun in his hand.
JJ Sturn is dead. Fuck it, all good things gotta come to an end.
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For appearance, how should we count it if BMI says one thing but the actual body type is another? BMI is borderline useless when considering muscle, for example, so it calls my 210 pound fullback obese. Also, what counts as a "notable" fight? Or "unusually" wealthy? Also, I understand the reasoning behind the sexual questions but it implies being sexually active on any level is unrealistic. :P

ALSO also, I really don't think the player's hopes for their character (get far/win) should result in points being added. It has nothing to do with the character's realism or quality. And you should probably combine the "Is your character racist/sexist/homophobic" questions into one catch-all prejudice thing, because it makes the list unnecessarily long saying those questions NINE TIMES.

...In fact, just get on MSN so I can chew your ear off more. :P
Edited by The Burned Handler, May 24 2013, 03:35 AM.
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Gabby - 24
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Eeer, ooh, not sure if that's hideously awful or not without a scale. (Plus I'm probably being generous).

Oh well.
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Gavin Hunter is taking his 30 points and going home to polish them.

The biggest things that scored points for him were his ability to use guns, style of dress, and method of speech. Also Asperger’s is worth 3 points? y u do dis terrible thing?! I mean seriously, fair is fair and all but it's worth much more than that. ;)

But getting back on the serious track, I feel as if I could've added a fair few other things to him had I wanted to, but I felt like none of them could be called permanent personality traits. He's a little bit self-righteous here and a little bit elitist there, but no more so than I view most teenagers to be anyway.

I like the test itself as it currently stands. It's a lot better than the old one, and it got me to really think at some points. It'd say it makes for a handy yardstick for measuring character depth as much as an intellectual exercise in character analysis. Good work.
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If we were to do this by my rules then both Finn and Stacy get 8 points (I halved the points for the ideal version of yourself for Finn because although he has some characteristics that I would want, I certainly wouldn't want to be like him). However, if we are following all the rule then Finn gets 20 points and Stacy gets 15.

The things I don't agree with and didn't include in my version of the rules are the death of a relative. I'm pretty sure that most people in the world have lost a family member so I wouldn't really call it out of the ordinary in any way. I also didn't include if you'd want your character to make it to the finals or win because I'm sure that most people on this site want the characters they've spent a hard time creating to win or at least make it to the finals. I didn't include if the character's hair is longer than shoulder length- I know a lot of people who have longer than shoulder length hair so I'd say that's not out of the ordinary either. Finally, I didn't include if the character was sexually active, a lot of people over the age of 16 and even under are sexually active so I would say that's pretty normal.
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Mara: 23

She mostly got dinged on being super rich and having anger issues. Also her name means something, but that was mostly a coincidence and does not reflect her personality in a complementary or ironic way (means "unfading beauty").

Paris: 24

He racked up a lot of points for having a dead father who died in a car accident, 13 I think. I didn't count it as traumatic because the way he died was pretty expected. He also piled on the points for being crazy religious.

Michelle: 2 : )

One for long hair (past her shoulders, not to her waist) and one for sexually active.


I approve of the change. In the last one there were points for things like being in a sport which I think is normal and you tailored it to some of the more common traits seen here specifically.
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Theodore: 11

Nina: 10

Gwen: 18

Theo got points for moving, social anxieties and his good BMI.

Nina got almost all her points from her weapon training.

Gwen would've been a 3, but I had to concede that she was originally based on the stereotypical "Goth artist who writes poetry". I feel she's grown past this, but that's not the intent of the question, so +15 it is.

I'm comfortable with this. I feel a few questions are a bit unnecessary (the points gained for being a bully seem counterintuitive, as we have few bullies compared to bullied people) but it's probably an improvement.
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Rachael: 17
Claire: 8
Sophie: 8

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Garrett clocks in between 12 and 22 points. I'm struggling on "relative death" issue as well. 10 points for having lost a close relative? By High School it seems unrealistic to have either not cared for your dead relatives or have not lost any. I know very few people who haven't lost a grandparent or an uncle, or even a parent or a sibling.
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As soon as I posted, I realized I missed a boatload of stuff! I knocked this out in one take with no editing, and posted it 'cause I don't want to spend half a year revising the thing so it never sees the light of day (coughcoughHowToGoFarInSOTFcough). I'm adding the new stuff now, but for convenience I'll post the additions here.

PART ONE: APPEARANCE
  • Does your character have notable scarring (anything visible on a cursory glance counts)? +1 point
  • Totally disfiguring scarring? +3 additional points
  • Does your character have a tattoo? +1 point
  • Is it a facial or extremely large (full-arm or bigger) tattoo? +2 additional points
  • Do they have several tattoos? Add the totals for all of them, but don't go over nine points.


PART TWO: HISTORY
  • Has your character ever had a particularly poor relationship with a member of their immediate family? (genuine,, lasting dislike, basically)? +1 point
  • Is it ongoing today? +2 additional points
  • Have the other members of the family made no effort to make things better? +3 additional points
  • Because they haven't noticed (it counts if your character keeps it secret)? +3 additional points
  • Does this apply to your character's entire immediate family? Double the points, unless your character lives with only one person
  • Did one of your character's parents walk out on their family? +1 point
  • Due to infidelity? +1 additional point
  • Drugs? +1 additional point
  • Did they totally sever all contact? +2 additional points
  • And not pay child support? +2 additional points
  • Does your character have a twin? +1 point
  • Who acts exactly like them or exactly opposite them? +2 additional points
  • Who dresses in theme with them? +2 additional points
  • Is your character immensely skilled for their age in any area? +1 points
  • Competing/interacting at a state-competition level with a chance to place? +2 additional points
  • A national level? +2 additional points
  • Do they attract media attention above and beyond typical for their sport/endeavor? +3 additional points
  • Do they make notable amounts of money off of their skill? +2 additional points
  • Multiple skills for any of the above? They all count.


PART THREE: PERSONALITY
  • Does your character have some sort of unusual phobia? +1 point
  • Stemming from a single traumatic childhood incident? +1 additional point
  • That often affects their life in a serious way? +2 additional points
  • Yet they've received only cursory help/treatments? +2 additional points
  • No treatments at all? +3 additional points instead
  • Does your character overreact to situations all the time? +1 point
  • In ways that aren't really something you'd see in real life? +3 additional points
  • Is your character calm almost all the time? +1 point
  • Even internally? +1 additional point
  • Without any effort? +2 additional points
  • Even in truly terrible, life-or-death situations (this counts only if the above is true, if your character goes calm due to shutting down when overloaded, that doesn't count) +3 additional points


PART FOUR: META STUFF
  • Do you try to make your character the center of every scene they are in? +4 points
  • Does your character have another character who is important to them (close friend, SO, etc.) who is also one of your characters (NPCs do not count)? +3 points
  • Is it a sibling or twin? +3 additional points
  • Do they often share a thread? +3 additional points
  • Will one of them kill the other? +5 additional
  • Does your character only have disadvantages from traits that are normally thought of as positive (loyalty, compassion, etc.)? +5 points
  • Does your character only have disadvantages from physical traits (weakness, an injury, etc.) or phobias? +5 points
  • Only from a mix of the above two categories? +3 points
  • Does your character have no legitimate disadvantages? +10 points and a huge frowny face for whoever approved you
  • Does your character have no legitimate advantages? +5 points


Also, a few notes:

This test, by design, gives a small number of points for plenty of realistic and reasonable things that cause trouble when present in large quantities. That's the point behind, say, the sex, drugs, crime, smoking, drinking, etc. questions. If you hit a few marks, you get a few points, which is negligible. If, however, you've got a bad behavior bingo, you get a more notable score, which reflects how unusual it is for someone to act up in every way (and it's still not netting you as many as single-area extreme stuff, because it does happen, just not super often).

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I'm definitely intending to give this a full working with both of my characters, and I can see that its a far improved tool over the mary sue test in regard to the SotF standard of realism. What I would reccomend, MurderWeasel, is embedding or nesting those points that coincide with a parent point.

Example:
Is your character's hair an unusual colour?
- Multiple colours at the same time?

Sadly, the formatting doesn't really let me nest points. ;-;
Maraoone
 
1 point (BMI under 25)

It's actually the 25th percentile, which is shown down below. It means your character is skinnier than 75% of their peers. Boatloads of people have a BMI lower than a straight 25.
Maraoone
 
....maayybeee +2 (exceptionally smart) [I have no idea how much is exceptionally smart. Like one of the top people in their class?

My barometer is, do you think of your character as being smarter than most others?
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...In fact, just get on MSN so I can chew your ear off more.

MSN ate itself. ;-; It replaced itself with Skype out of nowhere. Maybe I was using a weird version of MSN? I had Windows Live Mesenger, and now it will not boot, just refer me to Skype. And I can't get into Skype because I don't remember what my MSN password was.
Jonny
 
i really lucked out here because there's no section here for "is your character a successful graphic artist at age 18 whose shit gets featured in ad campaigns for legit-assed companies". i feel like i'd get points for that one if it were there

Good point! That's been rectified. ;)
TBH
 
For appearance, how should we count it if BMI says one thing but the actual body type is another? BMI is borderline useless when considering muscle, for example, so it calls my 210 pound fullback obese. Also, what counts as a "notable" fight? Or "unusually" wealthy? Also, I understand the reasoning behind the sexual questions but it implies being sexually active on any level is unrealistic.

Good point. Adding a clarifying note.
TBH
 
And you should probably combine the "Is your character racist/sexist/homophobic" questions into one catch-all prejudice thing, because it makes the list unnecessarily long saying those questions NINE TIMES.

They're separate because the more a character dips into the hate pool, the less realistic they tend to be, and I've tried to keep the multiplication here as light as possible.
TBH
 
ALSO also, I really don't think the player's hopes for their character (get far/win) should result in points being added. It has nothing to do with the character's realism or quality.

It often ties into flagship-character syndrome, which tends to adversely affect a character. The reason I specified "before the game begins" here is because at that point it's gunning to win based on either a. a desire to win/be in finals just to win/be in finals or b. a desire to play out a particular plotline that has not yet had time to come into being (which often results in overplanning). The points don't count if the game starts and you love how stuff is going and then see that it'd work well with finals/winning; it's solely for the preemptive stuff (and solely for an express desire; "I want to win!" is different from "Man, it'd be crazy if I won! I leave it to handlers to discern the difference).
GOR
 
But getting back on the serious track, I feel as if I could've added a fair few other things to him had I wanted to, but I felt like none of them could be called permanent personality traits. He's a little bit self-righteous here and a little bit elitist there, but no more so than I view most teenagers to be anyway.

This is mostly, yeah, for major traits. Realistically, people act differently in different situations, and I'm mostly casting a net to catch traits that, as lasting personality traits, result in shaky characters.
Will
 
The things I don't agree with and didn't include in my version of the rules are the death of a relative. I'm pretty sure that most people in the world have lost a family member so I wouldn't really call it out of the ordinary in any way. I also didn't include if you'd want your character to make it to the finals or win because I'm sure that most people on this site want the characters they've spent a hard time creating to win or at least make it to the finals. I didn't include if the character's hair is longer than shoulder length- I know a lot of people who have longer than shoulder length hair so I'd say that's not out of the ordinary either. Finally, I didn't include if the character was sexually active, a lot of people over the age of 16 and even under are sexually active so I would say that's pretty normal.

Yep! A lot of those are realistic things, and catching them is a feature, not a bug. The reason for this is that many characters are a perfect storm of totally realistic and reasonable traits which, when added up, become a lot more silly. The old test lacks a barometer for dealing with that, so I added one in the form of dinging people small amounts of points for those things so that they start to accumulate.
Espional
 
Gwen would've been a 3, but I had to concede that she was originally based on the stereotypical "Goth artist who writes poetry". I feel she's grown past this, but that's not the intent of the question, so +15 it is.
Actually, I'd say if they move beyond the stereotype in pregame, don't count it.
Espional
 
I'm comfortable with this. I feel a few questions are a bit unnecessary (the points gained for being a bully seem counterintuitive, as we have few bullies compared to bullied people) but it's probably an improvement.

That's correct in number, but this is testing for realism, and man are bullies often handled hideously unrealistically in SOTF!
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I was looking at the test, and one part of Matt's backstory (the death of Angel) seems like it would tie in to the "lost a close family member" entry, but they weren't related, only good friends. How do I go about scoring that?
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