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| V4 BKA and BDA Voting: September '10!; Day One! | |
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| Topic Started: Sep 5 2010, 01:59 PM (4,093 Views) | |
| Guest | Sep 5 2010, 08:21 PM Post #16 |
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BKA I think Guest #4 is completely right. BKA is a IC award. We shouldn't be judging these deaths on how well written they are or how you liked the characters. Let's throw that all out the window for just two minutes. Now put yourself in the mindset of someone watching at home, some obsessed SOTF geek who treats this game like a religion. I knew that the only way to properly vote for the BKA, I had to think like a SOTF fan. That's why I got into character. "O-M-G! The deaths in this game have been so laaame. Oh, Owen shot Warren with his own gun? Yawn. Alex chainsawed Robert's guts out? That's just plain boooor-ing. Wait, some guy named Ivan Kuz... Kuzu... This one guy is beating someone to death with a stick? This I've got to see! Holy shit! He's going to town! And look at Tabi cry! So helpless. Holy shit! Look at that! He just beat Keith's head in! He beat this guy's head in with a stick! Haha! I'm liking this guy! I think we have another Lenny Priestly on our hands! I need to get online, fast! I am soooo going to draw this guy! Ivan K, you are so on my favorite list!" BDA This award goes straight to Sky for the death of Cyrille Lablanche. I don't want to say this in a hateful way but Sky isn't the best writer of the pack. The symbolism he tried to cram into the death seemed forced to say the least. Therefore, he doesn't even be considered for this award, right? WRONG. COMPLETELY WRONG. Of course he should. You would have to be out of tune with your emotions to not consider him. For all the faults you could bring up about him, Sky did the one thing that most of the other handlers failed to do this month, the one thing that I expect from every Best Death - it caught my attention. It is a death that I think I will remember a month or two from now, well, apart from Kenny's debut, but that's a given. There wasn't a wasted moment, everything came together in a heartbreaking scene. Toben came at a close second. It was a very close competition and Toben is the best writer out of all those listed. However the death here was way too abrupt, and frankly it didn't really stand out as much for me as Kimberly getting shot did. Llama was good too, but the end of his post did not sit well with me. Had he got rid of that, I might have had trouble choosing between these three handlers. Sky, you have a long way to go, but after reading Cyrille's death, I can see much promise. You deserve this award. |
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| DOOM SONG | Sep 5 2010, 11:44 PM Post #17 |
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BKA: Ivan K. Because he beat someone to death with a fucking stick. I mean, he beat a guy to death. Just slaughtered him. Hell, I winced when I read that. BDA: Killer Vole for Everett Taylor. Even if you didn't read his pre-game action, the death was a great-send off to a great character. You could tell that Vole really didn't want to be killing off Everett, which is great fantastic to me. It made you think about these kids, full of promise, losing their lives to this game. Made me sad. I'd like to shout out Llama and Sky, as well. Both of your deaths were great as well. |
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| Guest | Sep 6 2010, 03:00 AM Post #18 |
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BKA: This was a tough one, but in the end I went for Clio Gabriella for the death of Petrushka Ivanova. The reason for that is that it's a (sort of) mercy killing that makes you think; if you had the life of another person in your hand and they asked you to end it, would you be able to do it yourself? BDA: This one has to go to SRJJJB for Cyrille LaBlanche's death. It was extremely emotional, the way the flashbacks were handled and how they mingled perfectly with the present day. The last scene, where Cyrille's back with her grandfather as she dies, that brought a tear to my eye. |
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| Guest | Sep 6 2010, 10:44 AM Post #19 |
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BKA Ivan Kuznetsov for simply how gruesome and memorable the kill was. Something I'll remember for a while. BDA Out of all of them I think Petrushka Ivanova was my favorite. The ending made it memorable for me which is what I look for. When I read something, I want it be something that will stay with me and this death will stay with me for quite a while. |
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| Guest | Sep 6 2010, 11:28 AM Post #20 |
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This is a tough one for both. I have to agree with the guest above me and say BKA: Ivan. It was very viceral and from a viewer perspective, very violent and with him freaking out and Tabi screaming and crying, I liked it. Special mention to Clio though, I loved her kill as well. I like seeing the inner workings of her mind. BDA: Petrushka. I liked this character and I found hers to be a very sad death. In the end she sort of gave up and accepted death, but I was also very fond of the final happy flashback that closed out her life. I thought it was a good balance between emotion and reality and for that, I'm giving it to her. Special mention to Everett though. The amount of detail in his thoughts was just impressive. |
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| Spasiba? | Sep 6 2010, 12:24 PM Post #21 |
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Best Death to Everett Taylor. I had to decide between Cyrille's and Everett's, and figured that the symbolism made Cyrille's a bit too cheesy. For Best Kill I wanted to avoid launch-deaths altogether, which really narrowed it down. In the end I go with Ivan Kuznetsov for murdering Keith Christoph. Almost considered Reiko's double-kill due to SOTF_Help pretty much setting the whole thing up, but sided with detail. |
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| Guest | Sep 6 2010, 01:30 PM Post #22 |
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For Best Kill, I vote for Ivan (I cannot remember how his last name is spelled for the life of me, but there's only one Ivan in the running so I'm sure it's not a problem). Special mention goes to Reiko Ishida, however- I am sincerely and pleasantly surprised with her performance so far. Rocky is really proving himself as a writer here and I'm glad to be watching. But in the end, I had to go with Ivan because I feel that his kill perfectly characterizes the darkest side of the bloodthirsty machine we call Survival of the Fittest- public appeal. In the times of the Roman Empire, the crowd cheered the most for the kills with the most brutality, the kills that best proved the dominance of their holy Empire. Ivan has unwittingly found himself fighting for his own bloody Roman Empire, and as this thread indicates, his crowd is cheering. For Best Death, I vote for Cyrille Lablanche. I mean this in the best way possible- Sky seems the closest thing we have to a lovable underdog as far as writing goes. His grammar is shaky (albeit for good reason), and it occasionally veers into the cheesy side of things. But in spite of all that, it still manages to be quite enjoyable to read simply because he's trying so hard. Sky pours so much effort and emotion into his characters and his writing, and Cyrille's death is no exception. He and the others in the thread did a great job of creating an exciting, dramatic scene that culminated in two truly memorable deaths (on that note, honorable mention to Sally- it was short but delightfully bittersweet). Sky truly deserves the award this month, and this vote is to help him get it. |
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| Guest | Sep 7 2010, 06:12 AM Post #23 |
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For Best Kill Award, I vote for Kris Hartmann, and I'm going to choose it for a rather odd reason. See, Danya is ultimately the person who chooses the recipient of this award in-universe, and he's rather sadistic. So when he sees Kris basically going out of her mind as a result of accidentally killing Reika, I think he'd love to rub salt in the wound by giving her the BKA. The thought of that happening struck me as weirdly appropriate, so that's who I'm voting for. For Best Death Award, I pick Everett Taylor, largely because I think my criteria for BDA is going to be different than most other people's. I planned on evaluating the deaths based on the character as a whole, and how dramatically satisfying they were as the final chapters of those characters' stories. So if I feel a death is dramatically powerful on its own, but doesn't fit well with the rest of that character's posts, I'm disinclined to give it my vote. Now, I realize that this is the first day and people have had little time to build character stories, so I decided to see what people came up with. Sure enough, most people didn't really get a chance to do anything, so I looked at the deaths themselves, and found that only two of them, Everett and Petrushka's, felt that impactful. (Apologies to all the Cyrille fans out there, but her death didn't really do it for me.) Both of those deaths were very well done, but the rest of Petrushka's posts were not that great while in Everett's case, the quality of the death was carried over from the quality of the rest of his posts. I really got to feel for Everett a lot more than I felt for any of the characters who died on Day One. Maybe it's just a bias for Toben's writing that's subtly influencing me, but I can't give the vote to anyone else. |
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| Guest | Sep 7 2010, 07:26 AM Post #24 |
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Best Kill Award: 3rd: Alex Rasputin (Atomic Waffle) 2nd: Reiko Ishida (Rocky) 1st: Ivan Kuznetsov (MK Mackilloc) This was too close. I was constantly changing between Alex and Ivan and Reiko, but I've decided to stop the buck with Ivan. This was hard, rough and bloody, and brought out the holy shit part of SotF. Best Death Award: 3rd: Cyrille LaBlanche (SRJJJB) 2nd: Everett Taylor (Killer Vole) 1st: Paige Strand (Brackie) Again, insanely hard. I doubt I could decide between these three. I personally think Paige is the most worthy, mainly because of the build up and emotion, as well as the unknown of if her partner is alive. |
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| Guest | Sep 8 2010, 06:47 AM Post #25 |
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BDA - Cyrille LeBlanche. The death scene and her attempt at helping Reiko was so heartbreaking. Well written and cleverly thought out. BKA - Clio Gabriella. Wow, just the way that was handled. Even that accidental death and the excellent handling of post traumatic stress was... wow. I was very impressed. |
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| Guesty McGuesterson | Sep 9 2010, 01:08 AM Post #26 |
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BKA: Ivan Kuznetzov. Goddamn was that brutal. BDA: Cyrille LeBlanche. A surprisingly sad and well-written death. |
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| Guest | Sep 9 2010, 11:46 AM Post #27 |
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BKA: IVAN KUZNETSOV I can't say I wasn't expecting him to finally crack under the pressure, but MK did a beautiful job in continuing the emotion from Ivan's debut and working from it. And I can say, without a doubt, he's the one who could use a fancy new weapon the most. BDA: EVERETT TAYLOR I was going to rant about how Everett deserves this over anyone else, but in the end, I think the post speaks for itself. It's pretty apparent that KillerVole didn't write the post with the intention of winning a BDA, he wasn't trying to be dramatic and he wasn't throwing metaphors in our face. He was doing his character justice and giving him a beautifully executed end. Amazingly top-notch, really hope you win this, buddy. |
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| Guest | Sep 9 2010, 12:42 PM Post #28 |
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BKA: Clio. For the thought into it, for the mental breakdown she has afterward. Though Ivan is a close second, for sheer gory disturbing memorability. BDA: Petrushka. Quiet and powerful. I really hope this one wins. She broke my heart. |
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| Guest | Sep 9 2010, 03:25 PM Post #29 |
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Best Kill Award My vote goes to Ivan Kuznetsov for the killing of Keith Cristoph. Since the start of the game, Ivan's been on edge and totally not liking having to interact with other people. When he does snap, he loses himself entirely in the act. Whereas many other kills were calculated but not very well executed, Ivan instead gives a brilliantly realistic yet brutally effective performance of smashing Keith's face in. Best Death Award My vote goes to KillerVole for the death of Everett Taylor. The death is spun out of a tapestry of words that draw the reader one last time into Everett's mind. We see how he feels about what he has done in the game, in his life, and in the last moments before his death. KV uses context appropriate flashbacks and the imagery of flickering in and out of darkness to drive home how fleeting life actually is. For a person to go through their final moments and come to an acceptance is not a quick affair. We see that Everett works frantically in his mind to find that one thing he can feel content with. And in the end, he doesn't accept his death as is but makes that final bid toward life. There is closure on Everett's story. Now, many handlers have voted for Cyrille, and I'd just like to leave a few comments on her death. I will agree that it was indeed a good death, probably the second or third best of our batch this month, but in the end it just didn't have the eloquence of Everett's death. Some have cited the emotional impact of Cyrille's death, but I feel that it was something that came too quickly and without enough buildup and momentum to make any hit feel lasting. True that Cyrille's death will have a more lasting impact on the game itself, due to her relationship with Violetta, but the reader only gets that side of the tragedy without feeling much for the tragedy of Cyrille's death as a stand alone. Additionally, the heavy-handed use of a stilted metaphor cannot hold a candle to the more subtle effect of the flashbacks that were used in Everett's death. Finally, I'm seeing a few votes for Sky because he's the "underdog". I'll just voice my displeasure here at seeing that as a reason. This isn't a wrestling match or a sports game where our subjective opinions of the handler should influence our votes on something based entirely on writing technique. |
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| Namira | Sep 9 2010, 03:43 PM Post #30 |
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Null sheen.
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It also isn't your job to pick holes in other people's reasoning, above poster. Stick to your own opinions, not trying to find fault with everyone else's. |
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