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Keepin' it Real; Here's the dealio.
Topic Started: Dec 21 2007, 01:40 PM (824 Views)
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Wow, remind me to never use lingo like that ever again.

You all may have read the current threads by our members Scipher and Cyco. Most of you know what they're talking about and are in agreeance, others are the ones targeted and have felt the need to defend yourself against the claim.

For those who haven't read the posts, I'll quote them there.

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You know something? When I read a thread in which any handler's character has throttled and publicly humiliated either one of their own fodder characters, someone else's fodder characters, or even helpless NPC characters I am left with the impression that they are extremely hardcore and not mincey sue-ish faggots at all. Screw federal law, screw physics, in general just screw decent RPing. Take that gimmicky, bemusing, overcompensating shit and just run with it.

Ok, seriously now. Here's the deal, those of you who are turning Pregame into a big pissing contest. You're going to stop abusing the SOTF Pregame universe and its NPCs; just because they don't have a handler does NOT give you permission to have your character kill every last one of them, castrate them, skin them and make them into a big matching ensemble. You're going to stop with all the outlandish bullshit; the SOTF universe is subject to real world PHYSICS and, while Pregame is taking place, AMERICAN FEDERAL AND STATE LAW. And most importantly of all, you're going to stop sucking off your character; if you want everyone to revere them that badly then you damn-well step up to the plate and make them genuinely respectable through the game (or at least a believable Pregame scene) instead of trying to build up their street cred with these bullshit stunts.

What's that? Why are you going to comply with all of this? I'm glad you asked. Because if this continues I'm going to physically enter the internet, make my way through every thread I've seen this gay shit in and kick the absolute fuck out of every overhyped, underdeveloped character you think is so badass. I will make them eat their own shit. I will rape their wives (or husbands). I will eat their kids. That's how sick I am of reading this crap. Fucking try me, bitch.


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After tonight I've come to realize something. V3 is being hyped as "we're taking it back". Taking what back exactly. Taking it back to a level below V2 (which was good don't get me wrong). Every damn pre-game post including my own, have been nothing but a cyber masturbation. I've never encountered so many people trying to bad-assify their characters in such a short amount of time. For fuck sakes, its supposed to be about kids. Normal fucking teenage kids. Not some giant freak or some reclusive masked kid, or a kid who kills a shit load of people in a building and what not. NORMAL FUCKING KIDS. I understand we all want our characters to stand out. Let your god damn writing do that. Let your writing dictate how your character is. Don't give them so ridiculously stupid backstory.

I myself am guilty of the John Everyman cliche with Steve being your typical star quarterback, but at least its believeable. Atomic (sorry to call you out like this bro) Gabe is just Garry version 2 no matter what way you look at it, and that is something that will bring V3 down. Doddio, bringing Adam back will also bring V3 down because while Adam is a good character, there is no need to bring him back. Create and work on some original characters instead of trying to steal the spotlight and have Dodd win again, which will happen cause everyone will fanboi/fangirl save him cause hes our precious Dodd. Slakker (you'll always be that arrogant Slakker, no matter what stupid name you come up with for your screen on here), you're characters and every post you make seems to be laced with things that you know will piss people off. No one likes a shit disturber, point in case, the two people who adamently wanted you back, are shooting your ridiculous post in the bowling alley down. So you're really the only person I would like to openly say this to before I go. Please go fuck the corpse of a rotting hog. Thanks.

Now I've taken some shots there, and I know I'm guilty of a lot of the same things that piss me off, but for fuck sakes, the integrity of V3 is being compromised because everyone including myself has decided to make the stupidest most absurd and unbelievable group of characters I've ever bore witness to. I know its an RP, but you still have to make it believable people. That is why we all do it. We like to picture it, we like to connect with characters. No matter what, you can't help but feel Bryan's current rage at Mari, you couldn't help but egg on Dodd's aggression towards Cody Jenson, and why? Because they were normal people in the start who lost themselves to the game. They showed a realistic progression. They didn't start as fucking loons. Props to both of you (Cyco and Doddio) for that writing by the way.

To sum it up. V3 is royally fucked unless something changes, and until that time, I'm out. Freeze my characters. I'll pull Steve and Dan out of their respective threads, and continue on your way. To anyone who's story ideas this affects I'm sorry. To anyone who wanted a story with one my characters, I'm sorry. The only way I'll be back to RP is if I see a change in the way the overall attitude of V3 is portrayed, because right now its a "OMG, LOOK GUYS, MY CHARACTERS BADASS!!!"

To anyone offended by my remarks, I actually don't care.
To all of you, Good luck with it.

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And while the two have decided to either get aggressive, or take some time away, we wish them the best.

As for this roleplay, we like to pride ourselves on keeping the creativity going, the characters interesting, but also provide a welcoming presence to new roleplayers while keeping our older members around. The site has thrived at times because we try to keep it involved and leave freedom to write what you wish, and to explore different ways of doing so.

That said, we are not necessarily going to watch as members are deterred and, as Cyco put it, see SOTF become one giant pissfest. Piss is not good, sorry for those out there with that fetish....

So, the solution to this is simple, we'll give you a chance to fix it yourselves first. If anyone even remotely thinks that their current or past situations in Pregame are unrealistic,-- and I'll give you a hint, criminal activity is a BIG one, as well as fighting on school property, sexual molestation, etc-- you have a week to change it, from the date of this post. I know it may not be the bloody gore action that the games provide, but pregame is that time to do everything else that might seem odd in the game itself, like developing older friendships and being able to put the character into a different situation.

If the changes aren't made, we will treat your threads as canon and we will inflict reality upon them. That meaning the NPC Popo are gonna be coming to get your character. And they're going to jail, and court, and more jail.

In case that doesn't make sense to you, they will be removed from further pregame action and most definately will be denied V3 access when registering comes around.

Thank you and have a Nice day. ^_^
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Chase
Dec 21 2007, 12:40 PM
That said, we are not necessarily going to watch as members are deterred and, as Cyco put it, see SOTF become one giant pissfest. Piss is not good, sorry for those out there with that fetish....

I can only hope there's no one on SOTF like that.

I believe on all accounts that we should keep both Pregame and V3 realistic. BR was very farfetched as far as realism goes, but at least it didn't go completely out of control. Kazuo might have been an emotionless character, but do you remember him blowing up a fucking gas station, killing 30 people at once? Did he ever rape anyone? No. So let's use Battle Royale as an example: If it couldn't have ever happened in BR, then it WON'T happen here. That's a very good way to look at things. You can't just make your character all badass for the main purpose of having people like them. History lesson: The same exact thing happened in V2. Too many people making their characters the center of attention.

Of course some of this must've happened in V1. I don't deny that, but... Here's a question for everyone who played V1: Did any of you know, in your mind the minute you saw him, that Adam Dodd was going to win? That's right. I doubt any of you would say yes, because even Adam(the handler) himself didn't think so at the time. I've asked him the exact same question, and he answered. What about V2? We all know Bryan Calvert's going to win somehow, but HE WAS ORIGINALLY supposed to be a bad guy. See? I think the less of a protagonist/antagonist you make your character, the more likely he/she'll win. See where I'm going with this?

I think Megami will make a much better case for me, but this is all my opinion about Pregame. I've tried my best not to delve into the unbelievable, but I've come close. I'll try my best not to do it again, just to know I'm doing my part to make sure V2 = V3.
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I get the point. Edits made.
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Aside from the Bowling Alley post, what else is needing editing (Bowling Alley post is deleted all together)?

"My man got too familiar and I’d ended up having to whoop his ass, man, you know. Because he would step across the line. Habitually. He’s a habitual line stepper.” - Charlie Murphy


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Blood Boy would be interesting in the actual game; do you think Danya would see to his abduction from a psych ward if he'd been institutionalized earlier that year (as long as he still technically is part of the class)?
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He's the type of person who'd do that just to see what would happen.
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No, but Blood Boy already visits his psychologist regularly and especially now that he's developed some social clout it would be considered detrimental for him to be institutionalized and then there is also the issue that he's pretty much for the most part sane. For the most part though, I think only one of Blood Boy's threads need to be edited (and only one line)and the thread that where brought into question about Josh has already been edited.

"My man got too familiar and I’d ended up having to whoop his ass, man, you know. Because he would step across the line. Habitually. He’s a habitual line stepper.” - Charlie Murphy


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Dec 21 2007, 04:47 PM
Blood Boy would be interesting in the actual game; do you think Danya would see to his abduction from a psych ward if he'd been institutionalized earlier that year (as long as he still technically is part of the class)?

Actually... yeah. That's quite possible, now that I think about it. The rules say that the contestants must be from Southridge, but if Blood Boy were to be institutionalized... well, they would make an exception. Plus, a mental institution would probably make him even more insane than playing SOTF would to many of the characters. Yes, I think that could happen.
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It specifically says in the rules that any and all participating students in V3 have to be from Southridge High School and had to have attended the senior trip, so no, sorry. If I make an exception for one, I have to make one for everybody else who asks.
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Riiiight! Felt like there was something wrong with that idea.
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Dec 22 2007, 06:53 AM
No, but Blood Boy already visits his psychologist regularly and especially now that he's developed some social clout it would be considered detrimental for him to be institutionalized and then there is also the issue that he's pretty much for the most part sane.

Yeah, because sexual assault in public (Southridge is a public school, right?) is somehow not considered a violation under the California Penal Code, even if it was "self-defense."

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The essential guilt of rape consists in the outrage to the person and feelings of the victim of the rape.  Any sexual penetration, however slight, is sufficient to complete the crime.


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We have two choices with that thread: we either got back and edit every post since then or move on, it all depends on you.

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Just gave the tail-end of it a read over, I think some editing for realism might be a good idea.
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A couple of things:

Other than Bukowski's little "creative outburst", the rest of the bowling alley thread is doing a well job of keeping things realistic, right?

Also, I'm going to have to say it here, but I agree a good deal with what Scipher and Cyco are saying about unrealism. We've got alot of handlers that handle alot of characters, and it's nice to differentiate, but I think a good rule to follow (not this time around, coz it's too late, but maybe if there would be a v4 or something) would be to try and cut back on the sheer amount of characters with complicated and highly unrealistic backgrounds and behaviour. How many people resembling these characters have you ever met in real life? Do you people know alot of guys who were framed for murder, or were raised by the mafia, or drive a Viper in high school, or are anything like Blood Boy? As an individual person, it sounds plausible... but collectively it seems like we've created the most absurdly rare gathering of people into a single high-school class ever. The odds of all those people being so different like that being around each other are about one in a trillion. Just thought I'd throw my piece in there. I've been priding myself on keeping my characters plausible. Maybe some of you guys could use a reality check every now and then, for the sake of the rest of our sanity.
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Alrighty, I appreciate the input received on this matter by all sides, but since the issue has been resolved, I'm going to go ahead and close this topic. Please direct all of your constructive criticisms to PM. :-)
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