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The Future of Our Sex; tl;dr version highlighted
Topic Started: Monday 16-06-2008, 20:53 (340 Views)
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MAASTRICHT, Netherlands (AFP) — Romantic human-robot relationships are no longer the stuff of science fiction -- researchers expect them to become reality within four decades. And they do not mean simply, mechanical sex.

"I am talking about loving relationships about 40 years from now," David Levy, author of the book "Love + sex with robots", told AFP at an international conference held last week at the University of Maastricht in the south-east of the country.

"... when there are robots that have also emotions, personality, consciousness. They can talk to you, they can make you laugh. They can ... say they love you just like a human would say 'I love you', and say it as though they mean it ..."

Robots as sex toys should already be on the market within five years, predicted Levy, "a sort of an upgrade of the sex dolls on sale now".

These would have electronic speech and sensors that make them utter "nice sounds" when a human caresses their "erogenous zones".

But to build robots as real partners would take a bit longer, with conversation skills being the main obstacle for developers.

Scientists were working on artificial personality, emotion and consciousness, said Levy, and some robots already appear lifelike.

"But for loving relationships -- that is something completely different. In loving relationships there are many more things that are important. And the most difficult of all is conversation.

"You want your robot to be able to talk to you about what is interesting to you. You want a partner who has some similar interest to you, who talks to you in a manner that pleases you, who has a similar sense of humour to you."

The field of human-computer conversation is crucial to building robots with whom humans could fall in love, but is lagging behind other areas of development, said the author.

"I am sure it will (happen.) In 40 years ... perhaps sooner. You will find robots, conversation partners, that will talk to you and you will get as much pleasure from it as talking to another human. I am sure of it."

Levy's bombshell thesis, whose publication has had a ripple-effect way beyond the scientific community, gives rise to a number of complicated ethical and relationship questions.

British scholar Dylan Evans pointed out the paradox inherent to any relationship with a robot.

"What is absolutely crucial to the sentiment of love, is the belief that the love is neither unconditional nor eternal.

"Robots cannot choose you, they cannot reject you. That could become very boring, and one can imagine the human becoming cruel against his defenseless partner", said Evans.

A robot could conceivably be programmed with a will of its own and the ability to reject his human partner, he said, "but that would be a very difficult robot to sell".

Some warn against being overhasty.

"Let us not exaggerate the possibilities!" said Dutch researcher Vincent Wiegel of the Technological University of the eastern town of Delft.

"Today, the artificial intelligence we are able to create is that of a child of one year of age."

But Levy is unyielding. He is convinced it will happen, and predicts many societal benefits.

"There are many millions of people in the world who have nobody. They might be shy or they might have some psychological hang-ups or psycho-sexual hang-ups, they might have personality problems, they might be ugly ...

"There will always be many millions of people who cannot make normal satisfactory relationships with humans, and for them the choice is not: 'would I prefer a relationship with a human or would I prefer a relationship with a robot?' -- the choice is no relationship at all or a relationship with a robot."

They might even become human-to-human relationship savers, he predicted.

"Certainly there will be some existing human-human relationships where one partner might say to the other partner: 'if you have sex with a robot I'm leaving you'.

"There will be others who say: 'when you go on your business trip please take your robot because I happen to worry about the red light district'."
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Sarry if this is all but news.

What do you think about it anyway? Do you think this is crossing the line? Morally, I'm a little concerned that there are still hundreds of forms of cancers in the world, the ozone is in irreparable condition and we have a worldwide food shortage going on but scientists are choosing to focus their energy on robotic companions.
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Fuck yeah! Who wants to spend years building up a realationship with memories and caring moments? Fuck that, I'm gonna buy me a wife!
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Reminds me of this article I read some time ago about some guy who made his own love-bot(s). The validity of his claims cannot be acknowledged, as he prefers to remain anonymous.

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What do you think about it anyway? Do you think this is crossing the line? Morally, I'm a little concerned that there are still hundreds of forms of cancers in the world, the ozone is in irreparable condition and we have a worldwide food shortage going on but scientists are choosing to focus their energy on robotic companions.


By that logic, anyone spending his evening watching TV rather than going out to collect money for those in need is a selfish beings. Sorry Cade, but I don't like the analogy.
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I've heard about this some time ago. Machines will take over the world eventually.


I know I will piss couple of members off by saying the following sentence, but I don't care.
You could build a robot to look like anything... Dragon...
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Monday 16-06-2008, 21:01
You could build a robot to look like anything... Dragon...
One thing I've always wondered about dragon furry people. Exactly how would you make love to a dragon? Assuming its pooper is near its tail, how would you penetrate it? I mean, you'd need one huge dong to even pleasure yourself, let alone the dragon. Or is it that the dragon pleasures you? That would be painful.
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Monday 16-06-2008, 21:04
Sandalf
Monday 16-06-2008, 21:01
You could build a robot to look like anything... Dragon...
One thing I've always wondered about dragon furry people. Exactly how would you make love to a dragon? Assuming its pooper is near its tail, how would you penetrate it? I mean, you'd need one huge dong to even pleasure yourself, let alone the dragon. Or is it that the dragon pleasures you? That would be painful.
In this case it would have to be an anthro-dragon.
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Leos Axe
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As much as I tell myself I'd totally buy a robot wife, I wouldn't. I'd rather have a real woman.
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Monday 16-06-2008, 20:59
Reminds me of this article I read some time ago about some guy who made his own love-bot(s). The validity of his claims cannot be acknowledged, as he prefers to remain anonymous.

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What do you think about it anyway? Do you think this is crossing the line? Morally, I'm a little concerned that there are still hundreds of forms of cancers in the world, the ozone is in irreparable condition and we have a worldwide food shortage going on but scientists are choosing to focus their energy on robotic companions.


By that logic, anyone spending his evening watching TV rather than going out to collect money for those in need is a selfish beings. Sorry Cade, but I don't like the analogy.
Fair enough, if that's how you want to take it, TW. That's now how I meant it all, though. Had I meant that I would be a hypocrite since I'm on the internet instead of collected cash for orphans.

I think progress is good and I "love" technology but some things are just more important to me than TV and robots. I want to see my mother cured, I don't want to straddle-fuck a robot.

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Syrue
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Yeah, TW, when we fantasize, our dragons are about the same size as a human.
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Don't give a robot a will! You have seen the movies!
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I know TW asked, but please stop giving details about dragon furry sex.
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Darmikau
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Those darn variables.
DON'T DATE ROBOTS.


In all seriousness, it probably won't happen. Technological change happens faster than previously thought, but at the same time it almost never comes in the forms we're told it will.
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Wise
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This topic reminds me of Sibe the Butt-yiffing Robot.
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Party time
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Monday 16-06-2008, 22:16
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"I love you Lu bot."
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Monday 16-06-2008, 20:58
Fuck yeah! Who wants to spend years building up a realationship with memories and caring moments? Fuck that, I'm gonna buy me a wife!
You mean like mail-order brides? >_>
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Monday 16-06-2008, 20:53
What do you think about it anyway? Do you think this is crossing the line? Morally, I'm a little concerned that there are still hundreds of forms of cancers in the world, the ozone is in irreparable condition and we have a worldwide food shortage going on but scientists are choosing to focus their energy on robotic companions.
It's not like every scientist is going to make sex robots...

And all in all, I'd rather see that there is a chance that rapes can be diminished by this, and even maybe population itself can decrease a bit if done right ...
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lol

As for your question, who cares/10?

Seeing as it's a capitalist market out there, there's always going to be research that you don't agree with. But what the hell, it makes someone happy. And if they want to put their money into something like that, that's their perrogative.
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