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Zersch's Top 20 Albums; (or How I Learned to Love the '90s)
Topic Started: Thursday 8-05-2008, 07:55 (2,537 Views)
Cole
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#04
The Deftones
White Pony (2000)
"I can float here forever... in this room we can't touch the floor."

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Professional Reviews:
All Music Guide: 4 out of 5 stars.
Rolling Stone: 3 out of 5 stars.

Top 3 songs on this album
1. Digital Bath
2. Passenger
3. Knife Prty

Coming in at number four is the dark horse of my top five. I really believe that this album in its original, most basic release (more on this a little later) is truly a work of art. Distancing themselves from their former ties to the nu-metal scene, this third release from The Deftones had a decidedly new wave feel to it. The record featured a guest appearance by Maynard on vocals for the song Passenger which was a perfect matching. Their voices compliment each other perfectly, but I can't even say that this is the best song on this CD. Each song on the album builds onto the same strange atmosphere erected by the opening moments of the first track. It all culminates around track 10 with the single that was pulled from this album, Change (In the House of Flies) before fading off into the sleep inducing hum of the last track. This is also the CD that I "lost my innocence" to, but that's enough of that.

After the release of the original, untainted version of the album the studios convinced Chino and his crew to record an alternate version of the final song on the disc titled Pink Maggit. This version was much more like previous Deftones material, and Maverick Records slapped it onto a new version of the album as track 1 entitled "Back to School" and destroyed the ambient and feel of how the album was supposed to be in the name of a marketing ploy. The band was not exactly happy with this, but what the fuck are they going to do? Now I don't know how long elapsed inbetween the original release and the supposed "re-release" but it couldn't have been more than a month. Eventually there were what seemed like ten different version of the album out featuring ten different colors on the cover, but the money is in the original gray booklet featuring the white pony motiff.

If you're still reading this, forget about any other CD I may have begged you to listen to, this is the real one that I want people to experience. While I'm sure you are all familiar with the next three albums, you probably haven't given this one a chance. Download it and give it a listen because I think a lot of the people that have posted comments during the span of this list would enjoy it.


Two albums that just missed getting on the list:

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1. Black Label Society - Stronger Than Death (2000) Featuring the fantastic stylings of former (or current?) Ozzy Osbourne guitarist Zakk Wylde, some claim he has one thing he really excells at that and he milks it for all it's worth (pinch harmonics, I believe) but I say to them... don't all guitarists do a similar thing to achieve their individual sound? This the second release from Black Label Society and it does a fine job of representing them as a whole. Choice tracks from this release are Phoney Smiles & Fake Hellos, Rust, and Counterfeit God.

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2. Godsmack - Godsmack (1999) I seriously enjoyed this debut album by on again off again metal band Godsmack, Sully Erna's vocals really impressing on the opening track Moon Baby. This is another one of those debut albums that hit at the right period in time where every kid was pissed off much unlike today where every kid is sad, and thus spun off five or six singles over the course of two years. Other tracks I want to give a quick thumbs up to are Bad Religion and Voodoo. I never enjoyed another Godsmack album nearly as much as I did this one. Good job gentlemen.
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*sees OK Computer*

...

RAGE BUILDING
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at least you had kinder words to say for that album than other "just missed the list" albums, so whatever.

not wanting to spoil anything, i'll just say that it ranks very high on my own personal list.

I actually expected radiohead to be the band you were talking about but for some reason I expected The Bends to take the spot for some reason...

oh well, inclusion of The Downward Spiral (almost) makes up for it. but man our top songs are so different. i would probably have had closer, reptile, and a warm place, but thats just me.

and yeah i have seen the mr. krinkle video, awesome stuff.
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What if you got everything you ever wanted, and it still sucked?
the list has redeemed itself thus far...
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May 10 2008, 3:42:29 PM
the list has redeemed itself thus far...

I don't get this. This list isn't supposed to cater to your tastes, this is someone's personal favorite albums. It doesn't have to redeem itself or even be good in anyone's eyes except for the creator's. Why do you care so much for what he puts on it? There are some artists I don't care for but it's not my list, so I don't really care.
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What if you got everything you ever wanted, and it still sucked?
Chill out Ecto, we already talked about this a few pages back...
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NOTHING
Then stop forcing your idealistic views onto it Lucifer, this is my body a-

Oh wait a second

*flips a few pages*

War is a-

No wait...

*flips some more*

Uh... no.... um....

*flip*

>_>







<_<


*cough*









Screw you and the horse you rode on!

*walks away*
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What if you got everything you ever wanted, and it still sucked?
Now, now. Zersch is a big boy. if he is as bothered by my meddling as y'all are, i'm sure he'd have told me to fuck off by now.

believe it or not, i'm surprised at how many of these albums have been in my collection.

and i must say. never in my life have i been called idealistic. if my posts have been such an affront, it is well within your powers to delete them, so why bother rattling swords?
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May 10 2008, 4:19:10 AM
Overall:

Glad to see Matchbox 20, Third Eye Blind, Goo Goo Dolls and well obviously (specially) DT were taken into consideration...

Oh and I've never liked Radiohead (except for the Degeneration X theme >_>)

uh dude you're probably thinking of some other -head band like motorhead or machinehead. i definitely dont think radiohead is what you're talking about.
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i think you and my brother would get along well. he's a big fan of smashing pumpkins, nine inch nails, and radiohead. he also listens to marilyn manson, powerman5000, white zombie, deftones, coal chamber, and a little bit of tool, foo fighters, and godsmack.

i actually recognized a bunch of these albums just because he plays them a lot.
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Ectopants
May 10 2008, 4:41:06 AM
at least you had kinder words to say for that album than other "just missed the list" albums, so whatever.

I actually expected radiohead to be the band you were talking about but for some reason I expected The Bends to take the spot for some reason...

oh well, inclusion of The Downward Spiral (almost) makes up for it.  but man our top songs are so different.  i would probably have had closer, reptile, and a warm place, but thats just me.

Nah, but I do like the fact that The Bends was dedicated to Bill Hicks.


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Now, now. Zersch is a big boy. if he is as bothered by my meddling as y'all are, i'm sure he'd have told me to fuck off by now.


You could tell me they all suck and I wouldn't mind, because I know the truth. Continue as you were lucifer, you are free to say whatever you want brother.


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i think you and my brother would get along well. he's a big fan of smashing pumpkins, nine inch nails, and radiohead. he also listens to marilyn manson, powerman5000, white zombie, deftones, coal chamber, and a little bit of tool, foo fighters, and godsmack.


Your brother sounds like a good egg.


Number three will be posted sometime tonight... and by tonight I more than likely mean tomorrow morning when I get in from whatever drunken stupor I find myself in tonight. Looking over the entry for White Pony I'm really surprised I did that well with the write-up given how wobbly I was when I got in this morning and how sick I got shortly after finishing the write up.

I had to force myself back onto the computer to put the bold and italics tags on the nods.
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#03
Megadeth
Rust in Peace (1990)
"But now Im safe in the eye of the tornado, I cant replace the lies that let a thousand days go."

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Professional Reviews:
All Music Guide: 4 1/2 out of 5 stars.
Rolling Stone: 4 out of 5 stars.
Blender: 4 out of 5 stars.

Top 3 songs on this album
1. Holy Wars... The Punishment Due
2. Tornado of Souls
3. Hangar 18

Claiming number the number three spot, Rust in Peace was predicted a long time ago in this topic by Ecto... probably because of how much of an obvious choice it was going to be for me given my love for Megadeth. I don't even have to mince words this time, not only was this album released in the 90s it is without a doubt my most favorite recording ever done by Megadeth. While I was growing up, you were either a Metallica guy or you were a Megadeth guy. While I guess that could still be somewhat true today, I still see a hell of a lot more dual fans than I ever did given the advent of the internets. It pains me to think that had Dave Mustaine not been forcibly removed from the Metallica line-up that we wouldn't have most of the material he went on to pen after his departure. I'm sure a few of the songs would have come to light, Metallica-fied, but it wouldn't have been the same. While I can't sit here and say that I am not myself a dual fan, if I had to decide I would forego ever hearing Metallica again to get to keep listening to Megadeth until my final days.


This record contains the eponymous Megadeth hit that was featured in Guitar Hero II, Hangar 18. While it is a good song, it should have been replaced with the vastly superior two-part opening track Holy Wars...The Punishment Due. Beginning the album with an absolute shred fest of a song, Holy Wars is my all time favorite track from Mustaine in any venue, rivaled only by what was only seen fit to dub as a 'hidden treasure' on the Demon Knight soundtrack, Diadems. The boys are really at top form on this recording. This record doesn't feel as dated as the ones that came before it but it still remains truer to the heart of Megadeth than the ones that came to follow afterward. Mustaine's whiny voice (sorry you little ginger) is wielded like a double-sided battle-axe throughout this entire pressing. Tornado of Souls, Five Magics, Take No Prisoners, Dawn Patrol, Lucretia, Rust in Peace...Polaris... I could continue to name the five star tracks from this one, but hell there would only be one track left to mention. That would be Poison Was the Cure, which is by no means a bad song, but it's my least favorite found on Rust in Peace. No more mistakes.


Two albums that just missed getting on the list:

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1. Metallica - Metallica (Black Album) (1991) Slightly removed from the other CDs in Metallica's discography, this marked the 'selling out point' of Metallica for most, but in reality it's just as good as any of their other releases. While not as heavily reliant on their thrash material as the classics that came before it, when it came to Metallica I have to admit I was always more of a fan of James and company's softer side. While they didn't make the main list, I had to give them a nod.

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1. Alice in Chains - Dirt (1992) Would? Would I nearly forget to include Alice in Chains? I would, until my friend was reading over my final listing for the top 20 last night that I had scrawled down on a notepad. My defense is that they kind of get lost in the Soundgarden/STP shuffle for me, but that's not to say they aren't good on their own merits. This album includes the songs Rooster, Them Bones, and Down in a Hole. As well as a track entitled God Smack (hmm..) Sorry boys for almost forgetting you, but Layne you liked heroin so much that you're dead and wouldn't be around to scold me anyway.
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Okay, so I lied. I made a few notes of what I wanted to say for when I came home tonight about the number 3 entry, but once I started typing I couldn't stop so I decided to just finish it up before I left the house. + 1 more point to Ecto's guessing power.
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yes, i am right again.

bask in my knowledge.

but really, dawn patrol is a five star track? what?
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Taken as an intro to Rust in Peace (the song, not album) it works, but I guess you're right, it's kind of silly to give any basically instrumental track five stars. I'll dock it a third of a star.

Goddamn I hate editing my posts that aren't entries in this topic, but I meant five not four stars.
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With two albums left, I really don't know if you liked Siamese Dream THAT much to make it to the top two, but I seem to recall you saying you thought it was the Pumpkins' best work, so I'll predict that one, and I'm pretty sure Ziggy will make an appearance here as well.

So those are my final guesses, not sure which spots though.

Also, I am ripping White Pony as we speak.
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oh wow, what the hell.

it's a burned copy and all the song names are just random letters stringed together. i dont even know which version of the album it is.

i'm gonna have fun tackling this one.
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Radiohead? Fuck it ... It was Rage Against The Machine ... Sorry ... I've been in another world >_>

So that means I like nothing of Radiohead <_<
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It also means you fail.
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Ectopants
May 10 2008, 10:12:55 AM
luciferxsage
May 10 2008, 3:42:29 PM
the list has redeemed itself thus far...

I don't get this. This list isn't supposed to cater to your tastes, this is someone's personal favorite albums. It doesn't have to redeem itself or even be good in anyone's eyes except for the creator's. Why do you care so much for what he puts on it? There are some artists I don't care for but it's not my list, so I don't really care.

>_>

Ectopants Posted on May 10 2008
10:08:23 PM

It also means you fail.


<_<
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