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Zersch's Top 20 Albums; (or How I Learned to Love the '90s)
Topic Started: Thursday 8-05-2008, 07:55 (2,538 Views)
Cole
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Seto Kiaba
May 9 2008, 4:36:02 PM
I was wondering when Oasis would show up.  Should be on any list of 90s albums/bands.

BTW, I love Third Eye Blind's debut album.  Maybe it's just a guilty pleasure, but there are a number of good songs in it.

And I am surprised you picked SOAD's self titled over Toxicity.  Unless Toxicity is coming up...

In anyone elses list Oasis would actual score a number, as I said in a few other artist run downs though, I'm but a mere casual fan of the band so I couldn't devote a whole spot to them but could appreciate and acknowledge the fact that they do indeed deserve some kind of spot.

I'm overjoyed that someone else comes forward about their liking of Third Eye Blind's debut album. It really was quite the little gem back in the day. As for Toxicity, it was released in 2001 barring it from entry, but between you and I it would have lost out to the debut album in my book even if it were eligible. While Toxicity isn't a bad album at all, I just prefer the setlist on the debut.


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i'm guessing lateralus is the third one, since it's tool's best.


Your favorite Tool album happens to be my least favorite Tool album (not that that is saying much, as it still gets plenty of play.) It might sound crazy, but that album was almost too abstract for me but I do so love Parabola and Ticks and Leeches.
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Really? I actually don't like the set list of the debut. Some songs rock, but others are actually a bit boring. But Toxicity, I can listen to that all the way through.

Still better than Steal This Album! though. *groan*
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dang. i didnt mean my favorite, even though it is my favorite too, but i just meant generally i thought it was considered their best.

i sure hope it's not 10,000 Days.
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May 9 2008, 4:43:27 PM
Really? I actually don't like the set list of the debut. Some songs rock, but others are actually a bit boring. But Toxicity, I can listen to that all the way through.

Still better than Steal This Album! though. *groan*

Goddamn agreed on the second part. Atleast they urged people to steal it instead of stealing your money with no guilt.
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Pearl Jam
Ten (1991)
"While you were sittin home alone at age thirteen.. Your real daddy was dyin'."

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Professional Reviews:
All Music Guide: 5 out of 5 stars.
Entertainment Weekly: (B-)
Rolling Stone: 4 out of 5 stars.
Q: 4 out of 5 stars.

Top 3 songs on this album
1. Alive
2. Even Flow
3. Black


While my list has been riddled with debut albums from several different artists, Ten is hands down the best debut album out of them all. They were one of the key grunge acts of the early 90s, and was mainly thanks to this single album. Good from the opening of Once to the last seconds of Release, Ten easily earned its spot in the final stretch of my list. At times it's really fucking hard to understand what Eddie Vedder is saying into the microphone, but it really doesn't detract from the music at all. You can make your own lyrics up to along with the music and it still fucking works. Pearl Jam is kind of like the Mad Libs of grunge. And I applaud them for that.

Alive is my absolute favorite song here, but it is still far from the pinnacle of the album. Every song here works on its own. Kurt Cobain criticized them early on as being nothing more than cash-ins on the grunge scene, but I would be hardpressed to pick a Nirvana album that I liked or listened to more than Ten by Pearl Jam. Instead of typing out anything more, I'm going to leave you with a video demonstrating the fact that you can make up the words and it still sounds right. It's in the form of some guy's misheard lyrics video you can see here.


Two albums that just missed getting on the list:

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1. Nirvana - Nevermind (1991) Even with what I said before this, I still had to include Nevermind on the list as I do enjoy a few songs from the album. You all know the rest, there's nothing left to say about this one.

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2. R.E.M. - Automatic for the People (1992) The eighth album from alt-rockers R.E.M. proved to be the moneyshot. Five stars across the board from nearly every professional publication, this CD probably belongs on anyone's list of great albums of the 90's. If you believed they put a man on the moon, man on the moon.
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Ectopants
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yes, i was right.

bask in my knowledge.
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Adam
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Yay, I can finally be useful, considering I know jack shit about music from that point in time and still like to read the topic!


As far as the parenthesis go, there's two different ways to do them.

Example 1:

The dog (little shit that she was) wouldn't stop barking until I beat her with a shoe.

^In this case the parenthesis are completely included in the sentence, so it neither needs a period or capitalization of the first word. Any sort of punctuation that would be used after "dog" would now go after the parenthesis.

Example 2:

The dog wouldn't stop barking until I beat her with a shoe. (Little shit that she was.)

^In this other case, the parenthesis are outside of the sentence in their entirety. If you're trying to do something in parenthesis at the end of a sentence, this is usually the case. Statement should be outside of the period (and if you're a typist, it needs two spaces), and should have proper capitalization and end punctuation like any normal sentence.


At least, this is how I remember it. I certainly don't think any English teacher I've had used that example.
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I was going to take a picture of me in sunglasses basking in your glory and knowledge, Ecto, but there are apparently naked pictures of my step dad on the camera, taken by my mom. So I lost any and all creative ability for now.


Maybe forever


I don't think I can go on...



















































Dancing

:bmdance:



But seriously now, I don't feel happy anymore
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I can assure you that there is a neverending string of obscenities going through my head right now but all I can manage is a blank stare
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Ectopants
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I have a feeling that at least....two more albums I predicted will appear.
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Ectopants
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possibly three.
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Cole
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Primus
Pork Soda (1993)
"Perhaps we'll have some fun tonight, so stick around and take a bite of life."

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Professional Reviews:
All Music Guide: 4 1/2 out of 5 stars.
Rolling Stone: 3 out of 5 stars.

Top 3 songs on this album
1. Mr. Krinkle
2. My Name is Mud
3. DMV


A lot of people can't get past Les Claypool's funky voice, but it suits the even funkier tone of his expert bass playing perfectly. With the assistance of his curious voice he manages to make every song he has ever written sound like a cartoon in motion. It was extremely hard for me to settle down on a specific Primus album to choose to place on this list, because every single one of them holds it's own corner of my heart. Yes, my heart contains a lot of corners. In the end I went with their third release, Pork Soda. This album contained wacky ballads about the DMV, a suicidal ninny named Bob, and a man known as Mud.

Though I've seen Les Claypool live, I've never witnessed the true Primus configuration but it is something I plan to do someday. Seeing that they have an album in the works for later this year, I'm banking on a tour swinging somewhere close by. This CD featured a handful of stand out hits in the three songs I spoke about earlier, along with a catchy continuation of their Fisherman's Chronicle sub-plot started on their first album with John the Fisherman, followed with Fish On on 1991's Sailing the Seas of Cheese, finally concluding on this album with The Ol' Diamondback Sturgeon.

If you can get past his vocals I guarantee you will enjoy your stay. Welcome to this world.


Two albums that just missed getting on the list:

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1. Dream Theater - Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes from a Memory (1999) Another band I am but a mere casual fan of and thus couldn't justify giving a spot to simply because I'm not familiar with anything about Dream Theater other than this one recording. I picked this CD up used from a local mom 'n pop CD store and got a hell of a lot of music for my four or five bucks. Strange Deja Vu is probably my favorite song from this release, but the rest of the songs are up to code as well.

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2. The Goo Goo Dolls - Dizzy Up the Girl (1998) Coming to round out the trifecta of guilty pleasures, the Goo Goo Dolls receive a nod because of the amount of great songs packed onto this one CD. (How many times can I say that?) Black Balloon, Dizzy, Slide, and hands down one of my favorite songs of all time to listen to while I'm feeling like a fag, Iris hail from this splendid recording. Browsing over the wikipedia, I'm informed that this is the sixth album by the Goo Goo Dolls. Goddamn, didn't know they had that many out.
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Ectopants
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DAMN i'm kicking myself for not guessing Primus. i know you've liked them and i think you even saw les claypool live. but i'm not even going to pretend like i would have guessed pork soda, i probably would have gone with sailing the seas of cheese.
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oh yeah, you even mentioned that you saw him live in your description.

kudos for having Mr. Krinkle at top spot, that's my favorite as well.
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I knew Nevermind would show it's face once, and I thought Pearl Jam would be there. I am glad to see Primus though :thumbsup:
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Also, I know its not your type of music, but I wonder if Sublime/40oz to Freedom will show up at all...
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Cole
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#05
Nine Inch Nails
The Downward Spiral (1994)
"I beat my machine. It's a part of me, it's inside of me."

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Professional Reviews:
All Music Guide: 4 out of 5 stars.
Entertainment Weekly: (B+)
Rolling Stone: 4 out of 5 stars.

Top 3 songs on this album
1. Mr Self Destruct
2. The Becoming
3. March of the Pigs


Finally we have arrived at the true meat of the list, the top 5. I'm not going to lie, there isn't going to be but maybe one surprise here in this final stretch and that one album may seem to come out of nowhere because it won't be on anyones mind other than mine. Unlike this album, The Downward Spiral, our number five spot for tonight. I can't say I quite remember if I had listened to Pretty Hate Machine or not by the time I got around to owning The Downward Spiral, but regardless this record was what made me fall in love with Trent and his musical monster known as formerly only known to me as NiN. There was a period in time when I was trying my hardest to collect all of the halos of the Nine Inch Nails discography, but I believe I gave up when I found out some of the halos were actually vinyls and I don't really have any place around here that stocks vinyls that aren't getting pawned off for crack money at the corner shop.

Anyway, The Downward Spiral is a scary, extremely fucking dark first listen. It was even recorded in the house where some heavy shit went down that finall lead to the imprisonment of notorious serial killer Charles Manson (more here). You get accustomed to it after a while, but this album plays out like a backwards crescendo as we quite literally follow the downward spiral from a blistering opening with Mr. Self Destruct all the way down to the vanishing point with the meek Hurt, which was later covered by Johnny Cash during the dusk of his life. But I'm not telling you anything you don't already know. A few people demanded NIN be on this list back around spot 17 or 16... surely you were jesting, as this album was much too good to be stuck that low.


Two albums that just missed getting on the list:

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1. Nine Inch Nails - The Fragile (1999) The Fragile almost claimed the spot over The Downward Spiral, but in the end my inherent bias against double-disc albums shone through and caused this one to drop to a mere nod. Trent changed the sound and style of music for this album, which supposedly continues the storyline started in The Downward Spiral. This album also gets extra props for freaking me out with the music video for Starfuckers where it shows Trent making out with Marilyn Manson in the back of a limo... not that they were strangers to making out before that (shudder) according to Manson's biography. There was also a funny tale about Billy Corgan pissing out sea horses, but I digress...

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2. Radiohead - OK Computer (1997) Sure to command a top spot on anyone else's greatest albums of all time list, Radiohead's OK Computer is a popular, absolutely monster recording that I actually connected with, unlike most of Radiohead's other albums. That being the case, I'm not fluent in Radiohead and could try to make you believe like I am, but I believe they deserve more credit than that. If you haven't listened to this CD, do it.
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May 9 2008, 7:07:45 PM
oh yeah, you even mentioned that you saw him live in your description.

kudos for having Mr. Krinkle at top spot, that's my favorite as well.

Glad to hear you can rock to Mr. Kringle. Have you seen the music video? Les + pig suit + upright bass = excellence.



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I am glad to see Primus though


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I wonder if Sublime/40oz to Freedom will show up at all...


I suppose I can tell you since it won't ruin anything, but Sublime completely slipped my mind and didn't even receive a nod. That's fitting though, as I've never heard anything from them aside from Santeria. The whole genre is truly foreign to me.
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Glad to see Matchbox 20, Third Eye Blind, Goo Goo Dolls and well obviously (specially) DT were taken into consideration...

Oh and I've never liked Radiohead (except for the Degeneration X theme >_>)
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Glad to see Matchbox 20, Third Eye Blind, Goo Goo Dolls and well obviously (specially) DT were taken into consideration...

Oh and I've never liked Radiohead (except for the Degeneration X theme >_>)



Thumbs up for that trio of artists. As for the DX theme, you sure that was Radiohead?
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