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I love arguing with idiots on the Brawl board.; Fire Emblem based. In before TW.
Topic Started: Saturday 12-01-2008, 05:31 (169 Views)
Donnie
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So, I somehow got sucked into a FE: Radiant Dawn debate over there about why people like one of the main characters so much.

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessag...&topic=40662733

Basically, the TC is trying to get people to admit that the only reason Micaiah is wanted is because she's a girl. Which is generally true.

Now, here's where I start:

Sykolan | Posted 1/11/2008 11:06:22 PM | message detail
-She's a FE rep that DOESNT use a sword. We DEFINETELY need more of those.

That's opinion. FE can have all sword-wielding reps for all I care.

Also, when I made my character list, I had Micaiah up there, but only because I saw her as most-likely in the case that FE gets another rep (assuming Roy is cut, which is highly likely). Personally, I can't stand Micaiah. She has to be one of the worst, if not the worst Lord in the FE series. No Lord should ever be as fragile and nearly useless in battle as she is.


Simple opinionated post, correct? But the last part would be highly backed up by the Radiant Dawn board.

Now, here comes THIS guy...

dragonsoldier | Posted 1/11/2008 11:24:05 PM | message detail
No Lord should ever be as fragile and nearly useless in battle as she is.


Thani and healing utility = good unit. play more than 3 chapters of the game.


I like how he insults me for supposedly not spending enough time with the game. Do I have to pull up the AIM logs I have with Phazon regarding my progress?

So, I come back with this:

Sykolan | Posted 1/11/2008 11:37:10 PM | message detail
Thani and healing utility = good unit. play more than 3 chapters of the game.

I like how you assume I haven't played more than 3 chapters of Radiant Dawn. I recall making it very far in the game before having to take it back to the store (and I'll probably rent it again, seeing as Sonic and the Secret Rings stinks).

But getting to the core point of the matter: Micaiah sucks. Thani still isn't all that useful besides it's armor-piercing ability, and there are much better healers out there. And have you forgotten that an FE characters popularity is directly linked to their usefulness in battle?

Micaiah is widely hated among those who have played Radiant Dawn. What does that tell you about her usefulness?


Call hiim out for a feeble insult, and get him with info that once again, would be highly backed up by the Radiant Dawn board.

And here he comes...

dragonsoldier | Posted 1/11/2008 11:43:55 PM | message detail
I like how you assume I haven't played more than 3 chapters of Radiant Dawn. I recall making it very far in the game before having to take it back to the store (and I'll probably rent it again, seeing as Sonic and the Secret Rings stinks).

Oh wow, you rented it, im sure you made it VERY far.

But getting to the core point of the matter: Micaiah sucks. Thani still isn't all that useful besides it's armor-piercing ability, and there are much better healers out there. And have you forgotten that an FE characters popularity is directly linked to their usefulness in battle?

Micaiah does not suck, Thani allows her to one hit kill units her weak team has problems with. And better healers? Her insane magic makes her a prime candidate for the Physic staff. Shes not a bad healer at all. Hell, shes a great one, and being able to heal is never a bad thing. And not every FE character is loved for their battle usefullness.

Micaiah is widely hated among those who have played Radiant Dawn. What does that tell you about her usefulness?


Lmao, shes widely hated by everyone who still plays nothing but FE4 and 5. Go check the RD boards sometime, shed well liked. Theres a reason shes high on the tier list too, and ill give you a hint, its not because of her sexy legs, its because she has great utility.



Like I said, play more than 3 chapters.


Still trying to insult me with the whole play more than 3 chapters thing. And check the RD boards and she if she's well liked? Hah, then you contradict this guy in the first part of the topic:

swordsman126 | Posted 1/8/2008 6:03:28 PM | message detail
Most people on the FE RD boards actually hate her with a passion,


Heh.

Oh, and this Endgame guy needs to calm down:

Endgame | Posted 1/11/2008 11:58:27 PM | message detail
Why Do You Like Micaiah So Much?
I don't, in fact, I absolutely HATE the little *****, she's a ****ing Mary Sue, and she's from a Fire Emblem, that SUCKS, yes, a Fire Emblem that sucks, sounds like a paradox, doesn't it? well, Gaiden sure proved it can be done back in 1991, and it would have appeared that Nintendo learned their lesson, but no, Sacred Stones happened, and the two after that have sucked too

Ike represents FE better
no, no he is not, he is just as..... **** it, he's WORSE, he's actually one of the main contributing factors to the decline of the Fire Emblem series thanks to how utterly broken he is

But aren't the Smash Bros characters genuinely LIKED as well as being significant characters to their franchise?
Ice Climbers are liked outside of their role in SSBM by idiots who have no knowledge of exactly how insignificant and sucky their ONE obscure game was, and how they don't deserve to be in? news to me, but then again, I suppose what you said does hold true to all the characters that DO deserve to be in.....

ICs, Pit and G&W say hi, I doubt many knew of them or even liked them before the SSB games...
no, just Ice Climbers, many knew Pit for his NES game was somewhat a hit (and plenty were actually disappointed to find him not playable in Melee), and Game & Watch, even though was not an actual established character until SSBM, I'm sure plenty remember those old Game & Watch games, even if only from the Game & Watch Gallery GB games (which I for one have played the second one well before SSBM came out), certainly a lot more people than those who actually remember Ice Climber

she's cute.
no, she is not

Having played RD i have to say i like her design/personality wise....
this is where I stopped reading

Im a FE fan and I think she's good
those statements contradict each other, if you truly were a FE fan, you would not think the little ***** is good

Micaiah reminds me of Dawn from Pokemon for some reason.
they're both ****ing annoying *****es who deserve to die, and have fanbases consisting of tasteless idiots who think they're "cute" when they are not?

but she never actually did anything to warrant all this hate.
she's from Radiant Dawn, that alone makes her deserve nothing BUT hate

Also, theres not really anyone on the roster I really like a lot yet and want to play as, shed fill that spot too.
you..... you prefer the ****ing Mary Sue over Mario, Link, Kirby, etc.?! you do not deserve to own any Nintendo system at all!

-She's a female, which Brawl needs more of
but she's a character that sucks, which Brawl needs less of
-She's a unique mage character.
no
-She's a FE rep that DOESNT use a sword. We DEFINETELY need more of those.
anyone who truly likes Fire Emblem would rather have nothing but sword using Lords from good Fire Emblems than to even allow ONE non-sword user from a FE that SUCKS get in, so no, what Brawl really needs is to get Ike and all the PoR/RD assist trophies and music removed, and Ice Climbers removed while they're at it, oh, and Mega Man, the 3rd party character that deserves to get in the most
Endgame | Posted 1/11/2008 11:58:54 PM | message detail
I'm an FE fan and I like Micaiah.
another contradiction, anyone who truly is a FE fan would not like the little *****, even if all they knew is that she's from the abomination that is Radiant Dawn

Your opinion. Shes a good character
let me get this straight, you're saying he's stating his opinion, as if it means he is not correct (protip: he is correct), then you're stating your opinion as if it were fact? and you're being wrong at that? (yes, opinions can be wrong, see: "George Bush is the greatest president ever")

Micaiah rox (in my opinion)!
another piece of evidence that opinions can be wrong

I hate her, she is the most useless lord ever, worse than Eliwood IMO.
the fact that you say Eliwood is one of the most useless Lords proves that you haven't played any FEs other than the four released outside of Japan, three of them which suck, therefore, your opinion on who should or should not be in Brawl is worthless, otherwise, you'd know about Roy and Leaf.....

She's cute,
the most common argument of the pro-Mary Sue brigade, and it is just as incorrect as the first time it was used, I mean, seriously, FE7 was released outside of Japan, it had girls that are actually cute, most of you SHOULD have seen much better girls than the little *****, and by better, I mean in appearance, personality, AND ingame usefulness

Because she'll actually represent something from Fire Emblem other than the generic sword-wielding Lord.
all she represents is the decline of the once great series

(and I'll probably rent it again, seeing as Sonic and the Secret Rings stinks).
so, you'll rent it again because a game that sucks less sucks? (it's a post-Sonic Heroes Sonic, what the hell were you expecting?!)

Although I've never played a FE game
thanks for admitting right off that your opinion on the matter is worthless

Micaiah is far from the only character from Fire Emblem who is of a different class,female or doesn't use a sword.
thank you, really, it seems like most people don't realize that, just like they don't realize that there are five other Fire Emblems other than Blazing Sword that don't suck, and if they never played them, they should shut the **** up about who should or should not be in SSB, as they know NOTHING about the games of the series that are good, for they only played one, if even that

Lmao, shes widely hated by everyone who still plays nothing but FE4 and 5.
you mean people who are much more credible when it comes to the series than almost everyone on this board?


I'm surprised I can't declare myself mentally retarded yet.
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Soma Superior
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lolbrawlboards.

I've seen endgame on another board, though.

He's, uhh, exuberant. <_<;;
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Micaiah is hot. But she is kinda frail...

I still use her, just like I still use my crapified Jill >_>
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Does Jill suck in RD?
;_;

I haven't played it yet but I <3'd her in PoR
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MLWW
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...Honestly, i'm a FE fan too but this is really dumb.


And i'm saying it in the nice way here.
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Omgarm
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lol brawl board...
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Heh. Don't do GameFAQs' games boards, Donnie. They're generally filled with arguing fanboys that don't get half the things they say themselves.

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Lmao, shes widely hated by everyone who still plays nothing but FE4 and 5.


That, on the other hand, is what I would call a very nice compliment.
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MonstaRasta
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The boards are filled with people with fingers in their ears going "blah blah" over and over again. I'd find holes in their testimony to render them speechless.
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PW52
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Avoid them. Unless you like a lack of brain cells.
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lol you deleted your triple post
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Not anymore.

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>_>

Yeah, crappy wireless connection.
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