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| Terriotoriality; Mochi seems to be getting worse. | |
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| Topic Started: May 6 2009, 03:07 AM (295 Views) | |
| birdgirl089 | May 6 2009, 03:07 AM Post #1 |
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As sweet as Mochi can be he is really territorial and it seems to be getting worse. (Maybe because of the season and his moulting) I've been trying to make him less territorial but I'm somewhat worried about making things worse. I know it's really important to spend time with your p-lets but he doesn't really like to come out of his cage unless it's about 6 in the morning and he's not really awake- he loves coming out and being pet then! Anyways I'm not sure if I don't think I should be forcing my attention to him if he seems happy alone in his cage. I've tried different things, but I'm really not sure what should work. I try to spend time with him every day until he tries to get back to his cage. I've been using almonds to lure him on top of his cage towards me and I eventually want him to have to come onto my hand to get almonds. Also Mochi knows how to step up but unless he is half asleep he prefers to bite-down, or his patented step up-step off technique. One thing I've wanted to try but not sure if it would be ethical/get results is when he bites to take toys out of his cage, because it seems the cornerstone of bird training is negative punishment. (taking away something good to punish). Another thing I want to try is to rearrange his cage to make it like a new home to make him less attached to it but I get worried he will think that whenever I go near his cage I move his stuff. One last thing, this is only somewhat related that I read giving p-let's more than one toy makes them more prone to being territorial (Mochi has two in his cage, 4 all together). And I've heard that if you only give you P-let one toy at once, and then rotate them it makes it so the p-let won't get bored with their toys but also not territorial over all their toys. Also I'm going to get him a proper chewing toy, because I think he might be afraid of his cuttlebone (he has a mineral block too don't worry!) Also I think Mochi likes people watching, he often chirps loudly throughout the day and gets happy when I come into the room with him, and will watch me happily if I just sit there talking to him, watching him or reading. Edited by birdgirl089, May 6 2009, 03:11 AM.
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| kevinp | May 6 2009, 08:29 AM Post #2 |
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Hi Birdgirl :) when you say that Mochi is territorial do you mean in his cage or when he's out of it. as most Parrotlets seem to be a bit territorial about their cages, when we put our hands in the cages we are invading their space as such and we do have to remember that this is their home so maybe that's the reason why. I'm not sure what you mean about "6 in the morning" is this the time he wants to come out or the time you want him to come out, as mine would not be coming out at that time !! :lol: If that's the time he wants to come out and you dont mind fair enough but I would let him out in the evenings as that's more of a convenient time for you. As for the taking his toys away he won't understand why, as birds do not understand the use of punishment or at least punishment as we know it (( there is a file attached to this post about birds and punishment)). Most people have the cages full of toys for their birds as I have as well, they might not play with all of them but they are there for when they want them. It is a good thing once in a while to rearange their cages so its all new to them but I always leave the perch or what ever they sleep on or in in the same place. Mine like simple things to chew on like white paper or kitchen towel (not toilet paper this has chemicals in it) or a slice of a telephone directory. Mine are also quite happy to come out and do as they please they sit on their boing which hangs in the window and preen or chew the boing
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| bonnie | May 6 2009, 12:44 PM Post #3 |
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No birds do not understand punishment, You may want to change where you have the cage at this time. With doing this you take away some of his territorial thoughts because he's in a new area he doesn't know. Start right away working with him. |
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| LauraR | May 6 2009, 06:16 PM Post #4 |
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Hi Traci, you've already gotten a lot of good advice :) When you do get him out of the cage I would definitely practice step-ups with him. My little guy Spike is starting to get more cage territorial so when he starts getting all puffy and chirping at me, I put my finger under his chest and follow with the 'step up' command. Then I quickly take him out of the cage and praise him for being such a good boy and stepping up for me :) |
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| birdgirl089 | May 6 2009, 07:30 PM Post #5 |
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Thanks for the advice everyone. :) :) :) Also he is territorial over his cage, and he bites me when I go to have him step-up, or feed him or anything. And he screams whenever I move anything in my room. And I do try working on step-ups with him out if his cage and praise him tonnes! I don't mind having to scoop him out of his cage and deal with bites my main concern is that if I have to continue this with him he will come to associate spending time with me as stressful, and it would be nice to put on deodorant or go into my closet without being yelled at haha. |
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| Gardengail | May 6 2009, 07:41 PM Post #6 |
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All good advice given! Most birds are extremely protective of their cages and "their" stuff...lol.. Cricket was pretty bad about that when I first brought him home. He would act like a little shark. I got a little fed up one day and decided he wasn't going to do this to me any longer. I firmly scolded him with my finger at his chest (all the while he was nipping) and kept scolding him until he stepped up. I never let on that his biting was hurting me. After that he got the message and only with a couple exceptions, he's been a perfect gentleman! Good luck with Mochi! :) |
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| bonnie | May 23 2009, 11:27 AM Post #7 |
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How is it going with the territorial :question: |
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| Gardengail | May 23 2009, 01:34 PM Post #8 |
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Ha....I posted about Cricket being the "perfect gentlemen".... I had him on my shoulder last night (I know...he shouldn't be there smug ) and he chomped onto my neck and gave me a good nip...It felt like he was piercing my neck! eek |
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| bonnie | May 23 2009, 05:02 PM Post #9 |
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OUCH eek eek eek |
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| Jan | May 23 2009, 05:18 PM Post #10 |
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Just a little luv bite giggle |
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| bonnie | May 24 2009, 01:48 PM Post #11 |
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Jan knows she gets lots of love bites :lol: :lol: |
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| LauraR | May 24 2009, 05:46 PM Post #12 |
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Cricket!! I thought you weren't like the other parrotlets, but you're just the same! :lol: :lol: At least occasionally!! :) Last week Quigley jumped onto my back when I went to get his water bowl to wash it. He rode on me to the kitchen and while I was washing his bowl, he sneaked around and bit my ear really hard! No blood, but it hurt enough that I dropped the phone (I was also on the phone at the time!!) in a bowl of water in the sink. The phone was completely submerged and Quigley went on a flappy, scared fit. What a mess that was! eek |
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| scooby | May 24 2009, 05:52 PM Post #13 |
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My parrotlets nod2 nod2 blue1 blue1 blue1 past1 can give a nasty little nip , and so can kermit , but the worst of all my birds for protecting his cage and toys and nipping is little gizmo, he is a little horror, he bites and does not let go. one day he was sat on pauls finger and paul was talking to him the next minute gizmo grabs hold of his bottom lip and wound not let go he was hanging their for at least 30 seconds i found it quite funny but paul was not impressed. rofl rofl rofl Edited by scooby, May 24 2009, 05:53 PM.
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| bonnie | May 24 2009, 11:11 PM Post #14 |
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Amos hates for me to even have a glass in my hand she gets down right fiesty :lol: :lol: |
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| theexbrit | May 25 2009, 05:43 PM Post #15 |
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Confucius say........... "Animal unpredictable, even if you think you know animal well. Just ask Siegfried & Roy". |
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