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| Bree | Jan 26 2013, 09:02 PM Post #46 |
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oh i should add on the subject that i think esc fans obsession with how well a song will do in the esc limits their enjoyment. i mean...who cares? that just limits the esc and stagnates it right there. it just comes across as silly and obsessive to me. there's no such thing as "it's a good song" it's either "i like this song" or " i don't" and more truisms like that from esc fans would make things simplerand we'd probably all get along better xD |
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| Stardust | Jan 26 2013, 09:59 PM Post #47 |
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Yeah me too Bree, I don't restrict myself to a set genre or type, even though I have things to prefer. But they really speak like liking Suus is such an intellectual thing like it is a GOOD song, not the whole taste thing. It's when they actually refuse to admit music is entirely subjective that it annoys me xD |
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| Bree | Jan 26 2013, 10:07 PM Post #48 |
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yup , that's what gets me too because music IS subjective. personally i think it shows complete insecurity or an obsessive desire to get one's way (which is just kind of an insecurity in itself) i mean i often shake my head at other's tastes and wonder how it could be that way but i've never think that made me better. and sometimes i'm like oh my god you guys have crappy taste but that's not true. it's just an non-alignment of tastes. nobody is better in their taste though it's nice to think we have better taste just for kicks xD to be honest i stay away from the esc forum mainly because of the need there for people to over analyze and insult others. it's like you could make some harmless little comment and somebody just pounces . like you think that's going to sway my opinion or something. whatever happened to friendly tolerant discourse xD |
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| Sara | Jan 26 2013, 10:11 PM Post #49 |
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Omg that's why I hate it there. With the exception of a few people there it seems everyone is like: My opinion is always right, and if you don't agree with it, you will be wrong, and I will hate you. |
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| Stardust | Jan 27 2013, 04:27 AM Post #50 |
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Yeah especially the Scandinavian/Nordic members are SOOOO snarky and rude. And people say like, taste is objective, we can all see say Mozart is a masterpiece and Rebecca Black isn't, but really who is anyone to judge quality? One can say something is musically complex and quality..poetic lyrics, whatever, but as a musical piece overall, it's subjective. And one could say something is "quality" in its screamo rock genre but others would call it headachey noise..who is right? Both. |
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| Caroline (jescgirl) | Jan 27 2013, 04:39 AM Post #51 |
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Erna didn't qualify :o :o :'( My favourites are Eythor and Unnur then... <3 I just :rolleyes: over the attitudes on escforum. I love how we have it here everyone can say an opinion on a song and we all respect it and get along :) |
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| Marzhoparzho | Jan 27 2013, 06:36 AM Post #52 |
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I got called a retarded JESC fan because I was one of the many people who agreed that Mohamed's performane wasn't exactly what it should be xD I just thought it was funny xD And Dara if you don't want to be judged perhaps it's a good idea if you stop assuming Italy has some secret elitist scheme going on and that people can genuinely like certain entries without trying to be better than everyone else xD Yes there are people who are very stuck up(Morten.. and well you know who xD), but there are also people who are just being sassy when they say YOU SUCK (San). I think what most people do is just laugh at those who think they are better than everyone else. Lyfið snyst!!!!!!! <3 <3 <3 <3 Because I don't care about Iceland anymore xD Oh oh oh and I must add. Gosh it's so annoying this year with all these people, especially natives of that country going, 'THIS SONG WILL SOOOOOOOOOOO DO TOP 5'. |
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| Stardust | Jan 27 2013, 06:45 AM Post #53 |
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I don't think Italy has an elitist scheme going on, I just think that when a song comes from Italy people will automatically find it classy and stuff, even in the old ESCs too. SOME people can genuinely like certain entries without being pretentious but not everyone on there is so genuine :P And wow who called you a retarded JESC fan :o It's things like that I hate too, I've been mocked for the same thing before :P You and Sara both using the word 'sassy' to me in a short time, so weird, I never hear that word but it's my cat's name xD Anyway I don't think San is sassy, I think he's really mean on the forum :P Nicolas said the same, he likes him IRL but can't stand him on the forum more and more :P Yeah I agree Caroline, even when we tell each other that someone has bad taste and moan over "horrors" and stuff, we're not so jerkish like they are xD |
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| Marzhoparzho | Jan 27 2013, 07:02 AM Post #54 |
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Last year you accused the country itself of being 'pretentious'. xD I think people liking Italian entries is the same as people liking Swedish entries :P It's just that the chance of you disliking an Italian entry is much bigger xD Because you could call fans of the Swedish entries snobs too because some of those fans seem to think that because it's from Sweden it must be good even if it's an entry they didn't like in MF. Morten did. xD All I did was not liking Mohamed xD Literally every time San says 'haters', 'butthurt', 'no taste' etc. he jokes, unlike other people who actually are genuine when they say that. He's exactly the same in real life but the difference is that you can see his face while he tells you those things :P |
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| Stardust | Jan 27 2013, 07:48 AM Post #55 |
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Oh Morten dissed you? No surprise there xD I called Italy pretentious because of their attitude towards ESC I believe, I forgot. I think I stand by that. And who says I don't think the same about Swedish fans? I totally do, the escforum ones. |
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| Marzhoparzho | Jan 27 2013, 07:49 AM Post #56 |
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But when they do send an entry to ESC they're still doing it wrong xD ? |
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| Bree | Jan 27 2013, 12:20 PM Post #57 |
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I prefer Beethoven xD and I'm with you Marjo. Lyfið snyst for the win! |
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| Stardust | Jan 27 2013, 07:23 PM Post #58 |
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Huh? I'm not even judging Italy atm, stop trying to make me xD |
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| Sara | Jan 29 2013, 02:15 PM Post #59 |
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I am in love with Unnur Eggertsdóttir - Ég syng! :D |
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| Caroline (jescgirl) | Jan 29 2013, 03:00 PM Post #60 |
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Me too!! :D |
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