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| Marzhoparzho | Oct 26 2012, 05:12 AM Post #46 |
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More on how Sweden's view of how ESC should be hosted and how they're goin to host it, from eurovision.tv: In the past three years, the winners of the Eurovision Song Contest have been Germany’s Lena, Azerbaijan’s Ell/Nikki and of course Loreen from Sweden; three entries that were staged in a more toned down way and created a connection with other people. Sweden wants to stop the technical arms race Ten years ago, female artists like Ruslana and Elena Paparizou won the competition with intense dance numbers. Since then, the special effects have been stepped up in terms of performances with acts like Lordi and Dima Bilan proving to be prime examples. However, after this something happened – the winners became artists with less overwhelming performances, but at the same time the organisers of the actual event still continued to advocate the use of advanced technology. This trend is something Sweden wants to stop. Here are the plans for the competition in 2013, which involve a whole new direction for the Eurovision Song Contest. End of the road Martin Österdahl is the executive producer of the competition and responsible for the Swedish organisational committee. He believes that the Eurovision Song Contest in its current format has outgrown itself. ”There is no continuation of the route taken in Moscow and Baku. It just doesn’t work to create an interesting narrative with the same equipment they used. It isn’t possible to create a more extraordinary technical light show than in Moscow, even if you have a bottomless pit of money”, he says. ”If you want to take this program forward, you have to choose another path, and our path leans more towards emotions and a good narrative. It is going to be noticeable and it is going to be about taking the show forward into a whole new dimension”. Melodifestivalen has an effect At the Swedish national selection, Melodifestivalen, the direction for a number of years has been towards a broad variety of music and big names, with Salem Al Fakir being one of many examples. Martin Österdahl believes that the Swedish national selection also makes an impression abroad. ”The way we produce Melodifestivalen is definitely going to affect how we do Eurovision. We are the only country in Europe that turns our national final into six Eurovision-esque arena shows each year. This means that we are well-trained”, he says. He also believes that Melodifestivalen has contributed to bringing the Swedish shows into sync with other developments in pop culture. ”Melodifestivalen is a coming together of all music genres and the best of Swedish pop music each year. With this, we of course attract an updated calibre of artist, visual expressions and fashion from many different sources. This has an effect of course” The future of the Eurovision Song Contest Now Martin Österdahl believes that there is a saturation in Europe when it comes to competition entries with an extra bit of everything. ”There is nothing left to tell when it comes to big LED screens and a fantastic amount of flashing lights. This means that the camera angels have to be taken from a big distance, which means that the artists become very small. There is a very large distance and between them and the background there is a lot of air. We don’t get enough emotional engagement and I believe that people have begun to realise this – consciously and unconsciously but actually more consciously”. ”This is what made Loreen stand out. When the background was turned off, you could get much closer to her and see her eyes. The words that she sang started to mean something. One develops a connection and a relationship is created, and this is completely decisive. I absolutely believe that this is the way forward”. Next time: How to make the experience bigger... in the smallest host city for 20 years. |
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| Stardust | Oct 26 2012, 05:22 AM Post #47 |
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Holy crap, are they trying to say technology advances are bad in ESC? And we should stop using them? :s (Which is a bit rich after Eric and Loreen tbh) But fuck, they want us to go back to the 90s? And they are hating on dance acts like the very epic Ruslana, they are acting like it's a bad thing to have a dance :o Fuck them, act is part of what makes esc, the combination of song, vocals, act And they are so arrogant, acting like they're so much better than Russia and Azerbaijan. You can't put Baku down in the same category as Moscow, Baku's hosting was pretty classy! I can see why Moscow gets mocked but people just like to hate on Azerbaijan but they did not do what Moscow did :o
What? Only mega ESC fans watch MF from abroad.... The way they produce MF is pretty boring, the stages always suck..
Um that's why they use both zoomed in shots, and wide shots to show mega exciting audience awesome lights, they'll ruin it :o
You couldn't even understand what Loreen was saying, she mumbles! Her act was awesome and the song is good, that's why she won. I mean they have a point re Tom Dice etc but to ban people from having funner acts? We'll have a ballad winner every year then... |
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| Esref | Oct 26 2012, 06:39 AM Post #48 |
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Dara, what was wrong with Moscow? I think it was the best Eurovision ever, stage-wise, hosting wise.. it was epic :P It seems that Eurovision is actually not going to be my top TV show after 2013 :s I want LED screen, I want fireworks.. and I WANT DANCERS! |
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| Bree | Oct 26 2012, 07:11 AM Post #49 |
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how was dima a flashy act? it had some dude skating but it's atmosphere was just as intimate as loreen's tbh that sounded like pretentious arrogance on sweden's part. and mf uses pyrrhos and dance acts. well i guess the old schoolers will be glad to see this return to a cheap karaoke ballad contest. and i never heard of salem the faker until mf and he sucked. what was the point of mentioning him? |
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| Stardust | Oct 26 2012, 08:58 AM Post #50 |
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Yeah I found the Salem mention odd too. Pretentious arrogance is just right! And Esref I like 2009 too, but I can see why people dislike it :P |
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| Caroline (jescgirl) | Oct 26 2012, 10:34 AM Post #51 |
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It is not like they can tell other countries how to stage their entries? :huh: I am just finding this ridiculous. Who is going to host their NF in a gigantic arena next year? Who has a NF where you are allowed basically as many dancers as you like? And who brought and made such a fuzz about their precious glass cage just last year? :P |
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| Stardust | Oct 26 2012, 10:40 AM Post #52 |
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They can refuse to allow wide camera angles, LED backdrops, any lighting effects etc. And I know, how can they act so superior after Eric's glass. |
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| lucas | Oct 26 2012, 12:39 PM Post #53 |
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You're just reading what you want to read people :P. I'm happy with this. :D |
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| Marzhoparzho | Oct 26 2012, 01:37 PM Post #54 |
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It's just hilarious that this is coming from a country with the most extravagant and over the top NFs while they seem to be like MF is gooooood we want it to be like MF because MF is so sober and all those countries are so tacky and over the top while we're just keepin' it real, I mean yeah they're so keeping it real with allowing prerecorded backings and stuff. That's what I'm reading and that's what's ridiculous xD And I don't like the direction they're taking this becaus frankly I love big LED stages, yes I loved the Moscow stage!!!! And Loreen was my fave by far last year and I loved her for her act too so I can see what their point is but it won't work for every act... |
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| Stardust | Oct 26 2012, 06:48 PM Post #55 |
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Luc we're all getting the same interpretation, perhaps you should read the quote closer. |
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| Bree | Oct 26 2012, 09:14 PM Post #56 |
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just as another argument against. regarding what they say about loreen. yes her perfromance was "toned down" but it was still overwhelming. and ryback was far from being toned down, a winner they don't even mention. and elle and nikki's light show and rain? that's toned down? |
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| Stardust | Oct 26 2012, 09:36 PM Post #57 |
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They probably don't mention Rybak because they'd prefer to just insult the Eastern countries. Yeah Azerbaijan was far from being the simple winner they claim |
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| lucas | Oct 27 2012, 06:09 AM Post #58 |
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WHat I read is basically saying that they want a more toned down version that is more about music/songs and less about the show. That's called an opinion. They also say that they basically dont want to spend the money (they probably dont have it xD) on all the show effect, which is not bad, especially for smaller broadcasters. The MF part I dont get, its obvious it influences they way they are gonna host but I dont think MF has an effect on the world xD. Overall, I think you just dislike the fact that they want less show in ESC. Something I totally support :) |
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| Marzhoparzho | Oct 27 2012, 06:22 AM Post #59 |
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I am not keen on their approach but that's one thing, their reasoning is just absolutely ridiculous because they seem to put the blame on others while they are very much a part of it themselves, a part of this technical arms race xD Norway more or less did the same but they were never this ridiculous and so lacking of self-evaluation skills xD |
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| Stardust | Oct 27 2012, 07:29 AM Post #60 |
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Yeah I have problems on so many levels Luc. One is what you said, I'm do nottttttttt want less stage show or lighting effects in ESC because that is part of what makes ESC so great for me and people that dislike should just go watch X Factor or a classical concert or something. And on another side, I find their arrogance delusional and annoying. |
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