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Topic Started: Apr 24 2009, 02:15:01 PM (593 Views)
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I heard it also has one of the most convoluted stories ever thanks to the horrendous script, but apparently War of the Lions fixed that.

However, from what I've heard, that one lags. I wonder which is the lesser of two evils here.
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It lags on spells, but the superior script, added battles, cut scenes and weapons makes up for it.
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Gotcha. I know which version I'll play once I get my PSP modded, then. Playing the ISO directly from the memory stick reduces lag and stuff too, iirc, so it's all good.
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I'm not sure if it's because it's reading from the disc; I think it's just a coding problem.

Fucking sloppy coding.
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The War of the Lions script makes it more serious, and it does fix some errors, but I still miss the old famous typos like "Defeat Dycedarg's elder brother!"

Also, they changed a lot of names which threw me off. Why the hell would you rename Algus? Algus was awesome. Now he's Argath or some shit like that. And they changed Gafgarion's name too. To something crappy, most likely.
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Mar 25 2009, 11:05:14 PM
No. Why would they? Who would care? "Sorry sir, but you're eating grapes. You're buying $100 worth of food, but these grapes, they're very important. I'm paid minimum wage but you simply have to stop eating those so you can pay the right price for them. Because it is my civic duty to stop grape-eaters everywhere."

No one would do a thing, in fact I usually eat something while shopping. Sometimes it's a bag of potato chips or something, which sometimes I also don't pay for. SOMETIMES GOOD-BYE IS A SECOND CHANCE


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Some of the names did throw me, and mentally I still call them by their old names. But it doesn't bother me as much as it once did.

The fact that they added two new characters, one of which is a Ramza clone ability wise but with inate Poach and another who is basically a combination of Thief and Mustadio's class, with all the abilities and superior speed DOES bother me, because one is useless and the other makes Mustadio, one of my favorite characters, utterly useless.
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Mustadio was wonderful, wonderful, wonderful. I won't play War of the Lions because they changed Gafgarion's name. It's one of the most morally unsettling issues I've ever faced.
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Gafgarion was awesome. He should not have been killed off so early. But the battle at the execution site was pretty epic.
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Mar 25 2009, 11:05:14 PM
No. Why would they? Who would care? "Sorry sir, but you're eating grapes. You're buying $100 worth of food, but these grapes, they're very important. I'm paid minimum wage but you simply have to stop eating those so you can pay the right price for them. Because it is my civic duty to stop grape-eaters everywhere."

No one would do a thing, in fact I usually eat something while shopping. Sometimes it's a bag of potato chips or something, which sometimes I also don't pay for. SOMETIMES GOOD-BYE IS A SECOND CHANCE


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You people whining about name changes are complete and total idiots imo
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Apr 25 2009, 11:27:45 PM
You people whining about name changes are complete and total idiots imo
Never played it before, but I think Algus sounds a lot better than Argath. >_>
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Apr 25 2009, 11:27:45 PM
You people whining about name changes are complete and total idiots imo
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F3nnies
Mar 25 2009, 11:05:14 PM
No. Why would they? Who would care? "Sorry sir, but you're eating grapes. You're buying $100 worth of food, but these grapes, they're very important. I'm paid minimum wage but you simply have to stop eating those so you can pay the right price for them. Because it is my civic duty to stop grape-eaters everywhere."

No one would do a thing, in fact I usually eat something while shopping. Sometimes it's a bag of potato chips or something, which sometimes I also don't pay for. SOMETIMES GOOD-BYE IS A SECOND CHANCE


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Apr 25 2009, 11:25:21 PM
Gafgarion was awesome. He should not have been killed off so early. But the battle at the execution site was pretty epic.
It was. It was always the hardest battle for me in the entire game. Except for maybe the one against him with the castle wall; well, that is to say, before I got wise and realized I could open the gate at least. >_>

But all the fights after that part of the story were always so easy for some reason, I think I was somehow overpowered no matter what. :/
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Apr 25 2009, 11:30:30 PM
Disappointed Dad
Apr 25 2009, 11:27:45 PM
You people whining about name changes are complete and total idiots imo
Never played it before, but I think Algus sounds a lot better than Argath. >_>
I dunno, since they actually put some thought into how they wrote the new translation, it's probably based on an official romanization or something. Pretty unimportant anyway.
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Apr 25 2009, 11:34:18 PM
Khairos
Apr 25 2009, 11:25:21 PM
Gafgarion was awesome. He should not have been killed off so early. But the battle at the execution site was pretty epic.
It was. It was always the hardest battle for me in the entire game. Except for maybe the one against him with the castle wall; well, that is to say, before I got wise and realized I could open the gate at least. >_>

But all the fights after that part of the story were always so easy for some reason, I think I was somehow overpowered no matter what. :/
The one at the castle is piss easy, especially if you have Ninja Ramza set with the ability to break weapon; a two shot attack is likely to bring about a weapon break, then he's nothing.

The execution one, though, can be hard... especially with those FUCKING TIME MAGES.
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Some of the new lines are also weaker IMO.

One instance is right in the beginning:
PS1 - Don't blame me. Blame yourself, or God.
PSP - 'tis your birth and faith that wrong you, not I.
Basically, the first one is said right to Agrias' face and more or less means "HA HA!", while the new one is said to the princess and, really, it makes little sense ("you're a princess, so you deserve being abducted")

Then there's Balbanes' death scene...
PS1 - Lower your voice.
PSP - You lose yourself, Ramza.
The older one is more direct and underlines the gravity of the situation. It sounds a lot like "our father is dying, WHERE THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN?"
The PSP one...well, it just doesn't give the same feel.

Also, the line spoken by Algus after Dorter was priceless.
I don't remember it too well, but it was something like "now our troops will chase every one of you like dogs. It sure pays to be a criminal, doesn't it?"

Other than that, something that bothers me is the units deployment.
I've chosen the "Type B" cursor in the options, so that UP will move the cursor NW, LEFT will move it SW and so on.
However, in the deployment screen, the cursor's movement is still type A (UP moves the cursor NE and so on)...

Also, WTF at the new classes?

Dark Knight is just retarded. Awesome but retarded. There's a shitload of sword-based jobs, and what do they do? They create ANOTHER sword-based job.
And the sprite? It's a black mage in a suit of armor, WTF!

Onion Knight is just what we needed. A neutral class with no skills on its own, who can equip anything, pretty much like the "Traveler" class back in FF5.
Oh, and, just like in FF5, it grows stronger as you master jobs. WTF?

Extra characters are Balthier (to advertise Revenant Wings) and Luso (to advertise FFTA2).
And I'm not even going to rant about their jobs because Lu already did.

How about some new classes that are actually new, Square Enix? Half of the items in FFT are useless because a good portion of the cast is specialized in swords, and some other weapons are restricted to only ONE class and there's no "Equip" ability for them (harp, cloth, hammer, ...)

Also, if you already used a name for a character, it makes little to no sense to change it for a rerelease of the SAME game. Especially when said game has been out for 10 years and everyone and their sister knows that character by his/her PS1 name.
Oh, and why changing Rafa (Rapha) and Malak (Malach) when they're already perfectly fine Arabic names (and Rafalak do sport an Arabic look)? Why not change Wiegraf to Wiglaf, which is the correct name?

...ok, rant over.
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