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Topic Started: Sep 6 2007, 05:45:37 PM (2,909 Views)
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Lamia
Rai
Leona
Kyosuke
Kai
Kusuha
Bullet
Elzam Ratsel
Ryusei
Masaki

High Tier

Arado
Irm
Mai
Excellen
Katina
Russel
Sanger
Alfimi
Lune
Aya
Latooni

Middle Tier

Seolla
Villeta
Gilliam
Tasuku
Yuuki
Ibis
Ryoto
Shine
Lefina
Eita

Low Tier

Ring
Radha
Rio
Carla
Sean
Tetsuya
Daitetsu

My Ship has a Force Field Tier

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Honestly, if Elzam being god lategame makes him that high, then Bulletsuha should be over him for being Gods for mid-late game.
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Come to think of it, should Russel and Katina really be above Sanger? That seems...just so wrong. >_>

Latooni down to Middle?

Also...Since we have Lee on the list, we should include Sleigh too.
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Katina is not High Tier ever. Russel has pretty awesome utility, and Latooni has Enable. CG fails for dropping Alfimi to High.

I'd probably place Sleigh in middle, but it's a tough call.
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Oct 27 2007, 09:47:28
If you're not using Bullet, then I think it's a safe assumption that you're not using Lee either. In which case you only have 3 characters to get the Battle Mastery in Chapter 3. This sounds unwise. >_>

It's not like Bullet's going to be much help in getting Archibald's Rhino down to 70% HP considering that he can't fly and lacks Accel.
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Honestly, if Elzam being god lategame makes him that high, then Bulletsuha should be over him for being Gods for mid-late game.


While Elzam ALWAYS kicks ass, Bullet is to stuck to being phail until the RKO. Same for Kusuha, to a lesser extent. This brings their overall usefulness down.

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Come to think of it, should Russel and Katina really be above Sanger? That seems...just so wrong. >_>


Russel is an awesome support unit, Katina is a good pilot. Sanger's only usefulness is Tornado Blade. I think it explains itself: Tornado Blade is enough to get him a tier or two higher.

Katina and Russel need their own combination attack. I could so see Katina Jet Magnum Russel in such a way that his Gespenst could strike with his own Jet Magnum at speeds higher than that of light. Of course, Russel would just go TINK! against Katina's punch.

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Latooni down to Middle?


She has Royal Heartbreaker, Faith, Enable and a decent mech, which should make her into High Tier easily.
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Oct 27 2007, 16:52:32
My Ship has a Force Field Tier

Lee

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Bah.

NADUHA Tier > My Ship Has A Forcefield Tier

You don't mess with the classics.

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Katina is a good pilot.


Mind explaining how she's better than, oh, say Viletta and Gilliam?
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Oct 27 2007, 21:46:33
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Honestly, if Elzam being god lategame makes him that high, then Bulletsuha should be over him for being Gods for mid-late game.


Wow, you're insanely cynical. Bullet/Kusuha it awesome for a longer time than Ratselzam is. The fact that they are less useful before this point does not bring the average down, but actually increases their overall usefulness. It's not like you can't use them before that.
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Latooni down to Middle?


She has Royal Heartbreaker, Faith, Enable and a decent mech, which should make her into High Tier easily.

royal heart breaker sucks. it's a combo attack that is as powerful as most super robot's ultimate attack (darkness blade, collosal storm, strum angriff etc...), and you're forced to use a sucky unit for it, theres better support units than shine. latooni is good, but rhb doesn't help her too much.

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Russel is an awesome support unit, Katina is a good pilot. Sanger's only usefulness is Tornado Blade. I think it explains itself: Tornado Blade is enough to get him a tier or two higher.


i fail to see how using drive to cleave evil instantly is not useful. EX hard mode grunts with over 10K HP? drive collosal thunder = ohko or close to it.

also, you're whole argument on how bullet and kusuha sucks is contradicting you're agrument why katina/russel is awesome. both of them in gespensts for about half the game, just as long as bullet and kusuha have before RKO and KRO. while I find katina and russel to be less durable than bullet and kusuha. kusuha has a type 2, which can hold it's own, bullet can dodge fairly well, and he gets alert early. It takes a while for katina to get alert, so dodging is a problem, she doesn't have good defense, so she can't take hits. while russel does have amazing defense, in a gespenst, it doesn't help him when everybody gangs up on him, which happens frequently.

so their early game is fairly equal in usefulness, slightly going to bullet and kusuha imo. And rko, and kro easily beat out whatever you put katina/russel in, so I'd say it's safe to say kusuha and bullet are more useful late game.

so kusuha and bullet should be higher than katina and russel.
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RHB does ignore shields.
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Magus, I hereby ban you from making jokes of any kind. If I even THINK you're trying to be funny, I nuke Houston.


Make another Hero Fad topic after I post this
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As for this being an "annual event" or whatever, consider this an open warning for all Fire Emblem boards:

Next time I see any fad on this scale, I'll annihilate it to such an extent that you'll still be able to see the destruction when you close your eyes. I'll suspend every account involved, then scour their usermaps and suspend all related accounts. Then I'll hunt down any surviving accounts with posts on this board and suspend them if they're using the same IP as any of the suspended accounts. Then I'll check the usermaps of every suspended account once a day for a week and suspend any new accounts that show up.

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Yes, but it's not fair to leave out it's advantages and just mention the disadvantages.
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Whoa, Rai is that high up, and in God Tier?

And for what, Fury? Which is near useless since the HTB Cannon ignores shields (Yes, even for the final boss.), and I can't remember any other bosses that have Warp Field in OG2.

I would consider him good if they at least would give him Guard to make up for the lack of Alert.
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Personally, I'd lower Rai a little since he is stuck inside the SRX. He cannot do TOO much since he is forced to be an energy shooting, spirit giving, emo butt buddy of Ryusei for most of the game.

Stick him in lower god tier/high high tier.



Also Bulletsuha >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On their own, so I would keep the combo on god and perhaps lower them to high/middle tier.(If that makes any sense?)
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i fail to see how using drive to cleave evil instantly is not useful. EX hard mode grunts with over 10K HP? drive collosal thunder = ohko or close to it.


EX Hard grunts will also completely rape Sanger thanks to how much he sucks at dodging.

I am pretty sure he does have Strike, though. That allows him to at least get a hit in.

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also, you're whole argument on how bullet and kusuha sucks is contradicting you're agrument why katina/russel is awesome. both of them in gespensts for about half the game, just as long as bullet and kusuha have before RKO and KRO. while I find katina and russel to be less durable than bullet and kusuha. kusuha has a type 2, which can hold it's own, bullet can dodge fairly well, and he gets alert early. It takes a while for katina to get alert, so dodging is a problem, she doesn't have good defense, so she can't take hits. while russel does have amazing defense, in a gespenst, it doesn't help him when everybody gangs up on him, which happens frequently.


Russel and Katina want that Type 2, since Kai hogs the R-Blade all to himself until the Gespenst Mk. II S (assuming you get it, which you should). Katina can have the Grungust Type 2 and Russel stays in the back where he should. Problem solved.

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so their early game is fairly equal in usefulness, slightly going to bullet and kusuha imo. And rko, and kro easily beat out whatever you put katina/russel in, so I'd say it's safe to say kusuha and bullet are more useful late game.

so kusuha and bullet should be higher than katina and russel.


But Bullet/Kusuha can be considered a different "character" from Bullet and Kusuha. In fact, I don't deny how awesome they are late game, just that their separated counter parts phail in early game.
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