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Black History Month/Black Colleges
Topic Started: May 31 2007, 08:41:13 PM (1,237 Views)
Abyssal_Shrimp
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*Waits to see how Fen will manage to horribly twist that post*
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Naglfar
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It will have something to do with the cruelties done to Native Americans and how they don't have a month.
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Naglfar
Jun 8 2007, 14:36:20
It will have something to do with the cruelties done to Native Americans and how they don't have a month.

That's quite possible.
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Jun 8 2007, 11:02:38
Fen just flames people without knowing what the hell he is talking about

1 Hcbu is NOT black collage it is a collage that is rich in black history

2 Black history month is NOT to say ha ha ha black people have a month and your race dosent

its to celebrate what black people did for this cpountr under opression

after hundres of years of slavery and opression they helped the country prosper and REALLY made it the country of oputunity
It wasent the country of opertunity before

If you were NOT white male then you were subject to unjust laws

Of course since fen and a majority of this board are white males its easy to think that you don’t really need anything that helped the country for anyone else because you aren’t included in the people who had it hard

I think that deserves a month if nothing else

Imagine being riped from your country and brought somewhere and being enslaved.
Your not human anymore your like a tool. Your separated from your family your wife your children. Some white man fucks your wife and makes mixed babys. This goes on for a long time

Finally you get realeased thanks to the first president with some sence(Not the 16th president by the way don’t get me fucking started on who the REAL first president of the Us was NOT GEORGE WASHINGTON) You get realeased

Even though your free your not equall your treated like shit you get killed there are laws passed separating you from everyone else You haven’t done anything to do this its not fair to you

Through all that Blacks still managed to change the country not only for themselves but for EVERYONE who wasnet a white man

THAT CHANGE ALONE DESREVES A MONTH

[size=14]NOBODY ASKED YOUR STUPID ASS TO LIKE IT’ BUT REGONIZE WHAT IT IS BEFORE YOU ACT L;IKE A SHELTERD WHITE KID[/size]

Wait…

By stating that it is a BLACK history month, it IS saying that Blacks deserve a month, and other races don't.

Yeah, for about 100 years they were slaves. 1705 to 1810, blacks were officially slaves. After that, they were treated poorly. So? Why do they deserve a month, because for 100 years, they were slaves? That's what, 3, 4 generations at the MOST?
Slavery ended nearly 200 years ago.

So what oppression were they facing? The same that any person in poverty would. After they were slaves, a lot of them had a hard time being anything more than grunt labor-- yes, that was to blame largely on society. Yes, that was awful. Ok, I know that, I know a lot about the Civil Rights Movement.

So for 100 years, and for 100 years after, blacks were either slaves or low class. Now let's fast forward to current days. Everyone is equal. NO ONE from the time of the Jim Crow Laws(and other such things) is still alive, much less anyone from the days of slavery.


But now, let's look at this for a minute. I'm looking at Wikipedia at all the notable inventors and scientists that are african american. Here I am, reading these, and I can't really find any article that says they came from a broken life, lived in total poverty, or were in a particularly oppressed area. Now, I can't read this whole list right now, but I imagine there are only a few that were like that, if any. There is only one person who was born in the middle of the slave years, to boot.

So, what do we see here? The notable Black inventors and scientists weren't oppressed, they had ways to become educated and the means to further their life.
So then, if we are celebrating what they did, and not the black race, why are we celebrating them for a month at all? If they had pretty much the standard life that the white folk of the time did, then we aren't celebrating how they triumphed under oppression, now are we?



So let's think about this. As you said, we aren't celebrating the Black race as a race, but only certain blacks. But then, we also learned that they weren't oppressed and they had in fact hardly been oppressed, many of them from wealthy(ish) families.
So, if we aren't celebrating the race, and we aren't celebrating people overcoming difficult times and oppression, why are we celebrating? What is the purpose? Cause if we have a month to celebrate the great BLACKS, then why don't we have a month to celebrate the great WHITES, LATINOS and ASIANS? Why is it OK to be racist in this case?


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And on the issue of Historically Black Schools:
I concede. It is a fact that people whom aren't black can go there. While I seriously don't think that saying "Historically Black" is doing anything to help abolish racism, I think it is fine for them to exist, I s'pose. Though, I'm concerned whether they are actually good schools or not, because you shouldn't advertise you are "special"(I use that loosely) if you aren't an actually decent or better college.


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If they renamed it from Black to African, that would be much better. Africa, much less its history, is rarely spoken about. It might actually be a good idea to teach people about Africa. Though, considering they haven't been civil for a long time(if ever, in some cases), I don't know how much actual History you can get.
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Naglfar
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Again, Hispanics and Asians both have a month.
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Magus
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That post was so fucking ignorant and had so many things wrong with it its not even funny

Comp clas is almost over so ill fix it after practice
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Jun 8 2007, 12:00:14
That post was so fucking ignorant and had so many things wrong with it its not even funny

Comp clas is almost over so ill fix it after practice

Wow, how civil of you. Insulting someone because they have a different view as you.


Holy shit am I glad that being a scientist means I get to live in an ivory tower. I don't know if I could deal with most of the population.
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Abyssal_Shrimp
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Jun 8 2007, 15:08:22
Magus
Jun 8 2007, 12:00:14
That post was so fucking ignorant and had so many things wrong with it its not even  funny

Comp clas is almost over so ill fix it after practice

Wow, how civil of you. Insulting someone because they have a different view as you.


Holy shit am I glad that being a scientist means I get to live in an ivory tower. I don't know if I could deal with most of the population.

That fine, because most of the population doesn't know if they could deal with you.
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Abyssal_Shrimp
Jun 8 2007, 12:12:37
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Jun 8 2007, 15:08:22
Magus
Jun 8 2007, 12:00:14
That post was so fucking ignorant and had so many things wrong with it its not even  funny

Comp clas is almost over so ill fix it after practice

Wow, how civil of you. Insulting someone because they have a different view as you.


Holy shit am I glad that being a scientist means I get to live in an ivory tower. I don't know if I could deal with most of the population.

That fine, because most of the population doesn't know if they could deal with you.

Yeah, when faced with God people usually don't know what to with themselves, that's true.
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*Subscribes to Fen and Fers's bickering lessons*
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Jun 8 2007, 13:15:53
*Subscribes to Fen and Fers's bickering lessons*

This isn't bickering at all. >.>;;;
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Magus
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Speak for yourself fucking ignorant asshole
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Magus
Jun 8 2007, 14:22:59
Speak for yourself fucking ignorant asshole

Case and point?


Ok, I win. BHM is stupid.
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Abyssal_Shrimp
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You won? Wait, where? Oh right, you didn't. I'd counter, but I can't be assed to right now.
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Abyssal_Shrimp
Jun 8 2007, 21:47:32
You won? Wait, where? Oh right, you didn't. I'd counter, but I can't be assed to right now.

^^^ if anything i won

My post was the truth your was some random shit you found on and exagerated off of wikipedia

You also missed the point of what i said

i said black people as a while deserve a month for going through the shit and then changing the country

You say that a few afircan inventors were well off enoughto go to collage then wrote BHm off because a few Black peolle were fortunate enough to goto collage

Now youve gotten me started

Just because they had some money and went to collage dosent mean that life was god there was still the issue of discrimination Most collages wouldent accept black peopld black people coundelt sit down to eat on a resturant of use publick bathroooms black people couldent vote black people couldent get certain jobs black people could not be americans just by saying a few black inventors managed to get into collage is not writting the whole thing off
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