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Topic Started: May 18 2007, 06:47:31 PM (471 Views)
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Neocons seem to have a lot of trouble with empathy and putting themselves in others' shoes, not to mention with basic logic. Why is it so hard for them to understand that foreigners don't like being bombed and may even seek revenge against us if we bomb them? Do they honestly think that people who have had friends and family killed by the U.S. Military are going to let it go and just assume that it was done for a "justifiable purpose"?
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Having sympathy for someone is extremely difficult. Empathy is crazy hard for anyone, not just neocons.
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May 19 2007, 09:47:31
Neocons seem to have a lot of trouble with empathy and putting themselves in others' shoes, not to mention with basic logic. Why is it so hard for them to understand that foreigners don't like being bombed and may even seek revenge against us if we bomb them? Do they honestly think that people who have had friends and family killed by the U.S. Military are going to let it go and just assume that it was done for a "justifiable purpose"?

I'm pretty sure that by the time you start bombing a country, it's not that you don't think they'll get angry at you, it's that you don't care what they'll think of you. >_>
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When I saw the topic title from the main page, I KNEW that Dart had made it, since neocon is one of those words he frequently overuses. >_>
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May 19 2007, 00:32:29
When I saw the topic title from the main page, I KNEW that Dart had made it, since neocon is one of those words he frequently overuses. >_>

Yeah, because someone like F3n would just say "conservatives" or "Republicans" instead, since he views all right-wingers as fascists, from what I understand. I, on the other hand, really only view neocons as the only conservatives/Republicans who are a huge problem. Unfortunately, the problem is that most conservatives/Republicans these days have more in common with neocons than they do with libertarians or even paleoconservatives.
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May 18 2007, 17:37:34
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May 19 2007, 00:32:29
When I saw the topic title from the main page, I KNEW that Dart had made it, since neocon is one of those words he frequently overuses. >_>

Yeah, because someone like F3n would just say "conservatives" or "Republicans" instead, since he views all right-wingers as fascists, from what I understand. I, on the other hand, really only view neocons as the only conservatives/Republicans who are a huge problem. Unfortunately, the problem is that most conservatives/Republicans these days have more in common with neocons than they do with libertarians or even paleoconservatives.

No, Goldwater Republicans are good. I like them better than democrats, in fact.
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May 19 2007, 00:38:59
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May 18 2007, 17:37:34
Abysmal_Shrimp
May 19 2007, 00:32:29
When I saw the topic title from the main page, I KNEW that Dart had made it, since neocon is one of those words he frequently overuses. >_>

Yeah, because someone like F3n would just say "conservatives" or "Republicans" instead, since he views all right-wingers as fascists, from what I understand. I, on the other hand, really only view neocons as the only conservatives/Republicans who are a huge problem. Unfortunately, the problem is that most conservatives/Republicans these days have more in common with neocons than they do with libertarians or even paleoconservatives.

No, Goldwater Republicans are good. I like them better than democrats, in fact.

Ron Paul's the only Goldwater Republican with any political power today, and he thoroughly made Giuliani look like an idiot in that debate the other day. That is what inspired this topic, in fact.

True to their form, neocons are accusing Ron Paul of being liberal and/or unpatriotic, and some of them want Ron Paul kicked out of any future debates. It's obvious that they're afraid of him, and they should be.
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May 19 2007, 00:00:13
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May 19 2007, 09:47:31
Neocons seem to have a lot of trouble with empathy and putting themselves in others' shoes, not to mention with basic logic. Why is it so hard for them to understand that foreigners don't like being bombed and may even seek revenge against us if we bomb them? Do they honestly think that people who have had friends and family killed by the U.S. Military are going to let it go and just assume that it was done for a "justifiable purpose"?

I'm pretty sure that by the time you start bombing a country, it's not that you don't think they'll get angry at you, it's that you don't care what they'll think of you. >_>

That's where neoconservatives' intellectual deficiencies show. Instead of considering alternatives and unintended consequences, their solution to everything is just bomb bomb bomb. They're the political equivalent of someone who's all brawn and no brains.
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May 19 2007, 10:53:01
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May 19 2007, 00:00:13
Darts
May 19 2007, 09:47:31
Neocons seem to have a lot of trouble with empathy and putting themselves in others' shoes, not to mention with basic logic. Why is it so hard for them to understand that foreigners don't like being bombed and may even seek revenge against us if we bomb them? Do they honestly think that people who have had friends and family killed by the U.S. Military are going to let it go and just assume that it was done for a "justifiable purpose"?

I'm pretty sure that by the time you start bombing a country, it's not that you don't think they'll get angry at you, it's that you don't care what they'll think of you. >_>

That's where neoconservatives' intellectual deficiencies show. Instead of considering alternatives and unintended consequences, their solution to everything is just bomb bomb bomb. They're the political equivalent of someone who's all brawn and no brains.

I fail to see how this is entirely a neoconservative thought deficiency, though.

Which party got us into Korea and Veitnam, again?
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May 19 2007, 02:19:13
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May 19 2007, 10:53:01
GyroNinja
May 19 2007, 00:00:13
Darts
May 19 2007, 09:47:31
Neocons seem to have a lot of trouble with empathy and putting themselves in others' shoes, not to mention with basic logic. Why is it so hard for them to understand that foreigners don't like being bombed and may even seek revenge against us if we bomb them? Do they honestly think that people who have had friends and family killed by the U.S. Military are going to let it go and just assume that it was done for a "justifiable purpose"?

I'm pretty sure that by the time you start bombing a country, it's not that you don't think they'll get angry at you, it's that you don't care what they'll think of you. >_>

That's where neoconservatives' intellectual deficiencies show. Instead of considering alternatives and unintended consequences, their solution to everything is just bomb bomb bomb. They're the political equivalent of someone who's all brawn and no brains.

I fail to see how this is entirely a neoconservative thought deficiency, though.

Which party got us into Korea and Veitnam, again?

The Democrats, of course. Neoconservatives are basically the same as '50s or '60s Democrats.
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Alright, I will settle this.

The previous generation will eternally be inferior to the current in ways of thinkings due to having grown up in less educated, tolerant circumstances. This is how it has been, and how it will be. When we are old, we will all be in our ivory towers and the youth of the nation will absolutely hate us for sticking onto the beliefs we grew up with, that we refuse to waiver from.
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F3nr1L
May 19 2007, 02:52:38
Alright, I will settle this.

The previous generation will eternally be inferior to the current in ways of thinkings due to having grown up in less educated, tolerant circumstances. This is how it has been, and how it will be. When we are old, we will all be in our ivory towers and the youth of the nation will absolutely hate us for sticking onto the beliefs we grew up with, that we refuse to waiver from.

best point you have ever made.
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May 18 2007, 21:56:33
F3nr1L
May 19 2007, 02:52:38
Alright, I will settle this.

The previous generation will eternally be inferior to the current in ways of thinkings due to having grown up in less educated, tolerant circumstances. This is how it has been, and how it will be. When we are old, we will all be in our ivory towers and the youth of the nation will absolutely hate us for sticking onto the beliefs we grew up with, that we refuse to waiver from.

best point you have ever made.

That's the way old people are supposed to be. Don't look back at old people now and think of them as too conservative for these same reasons?
The opinions expressed in the above post are totally and completely correct. If you disagree with them, you are wrong, there's just no other way to put it.

I've seen knights in armor panic at the first hint of battle. And I've seen the lowliest, unarmed squire pull a spear from his own body, to defend a dying horse. Nobility is not a birthright. It's defined by one's actions.
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Khairos,Jul 25 2006
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rnn ftw!
CO Gage,Jul 12 2008
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rnn ftw!
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May 18 2007, 20:23:03
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May 18 2007, 21:56:33
F3nr1L
May 19 2007, 02:52:38
Alright, I will settle this.

The previous generation will eternally be inferior to the current in ways of thinkings due to having grown up in less educated, tolerant circumstances. This is how it has been, and how it will be. When we are old, we will all be in our ivory towers and the youth of the nation will absolutely hate us for sticking onto the beliefs we grew up with, that we refuse to waiver from.

best point you have ever made.

That's the way old people are supposed to be. Don't look back at old people now and think of them as too conservative for these same reasons?

I simply look back at old people and think they shouldn't be having any pull on the flow of the country.
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F3nr1L
May 18 2007, 22:24:01
Colonel Jade Curtis
May 18 2007, 20:23:03
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May 18 2007, 21:56:33
F3nr1L
May 19 2007, 02:52:38
Alright, I will settle this.

The previous generation will eternally be inferior to the current in ways of thinkings due to having grown up in less educated, tolerant circumstances. This is how it has been, and how it will be. When we are old, we will all be in our ivory towers and the youth of the nation will absolutely hate us for sticking onto the beliefs we grew up with, that we refuse to waiver from.

best point you have ever made.

That's the way old people are supposed to be. Don't look back at old people now and think of them as too conservative for these same reasons?

I simply look back at old people and think they shouldn't be having any pull on the flow of the country.

And there we see Fen displaying a lack of empathy. something he was just complaining about. They look at you and think the same thing. Granted, so do most of us, but that's not the point.
The opinions expressed in the above post are totally and completely correct. If you disagree with them, you are wrong, there's just no other way to put it.

I've seen knights in armor panic at the first hint of battle. And I've seen the lowliest, unarmed squire pull a spear from his own body, to defend a dying horse. Nobility is not a birthright. It's defined by one's actions.
-Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves


Khairos,Jul 25 2006
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rnn ftw!
CO Gage,Jul 12 2008
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rnn ftw!
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