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Topic Started: May 13 2007, 09:17:31 AM (2,334 Views)
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Sure, and our religion would be Haruhism.
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What, you think it is impossible, even when carefully planned, to educate a small and slowly expanding group of people? I think that if you think that, you are somewhat crazed.
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Shut up and pay respects fool!
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I think this is clearly an indication that I won.
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No, not really.

What you proposed never actually happened to believe that it will happen now.

You can't really expect that sooner or later anyone can be educated. Plus, , your proposition will create eventually a mass that has the same opinion, since the origin and the opinions will be one and only, slowly expanding.

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Some people propose that there will be a nuclear winter, that a meteor will wipe out the human race, and all sorts of things. Just because it hasn't happened before, doesn't mean that it isn't a fairly probable event.

Sooner or later, someone CAN be educated. If humans didn't all have the ability to learn, to develop their intellect, we wouldn't be capable of talking right now.

No, what you are saying is that it will end up groupthink, and it won't. Teaching exactly what we know to people, free from interjection of personal opinion due to lack of knowing(much the case when people know a lot, but not all knowable, about a subject-- it can skew the facts when taught to others), will not create an entire society based upon single opinions. What it will be is a mass of people, all well educated, being able to rationalize due to the best of their ability, with the facts on hand.
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"Some people propose that there will be a nuclear winter, that a meteor will wipe out the human race, and all sorts of things. Just because it hasn't happened before, doesn't mean that it isn't a fairly probable event."


By the way, we have been hit by a meteor, and although no nuclear, there was a 1000 year freezing winter where only beings deep in the sea survived.

And anyway, what you say is pretty much impossible for a large community. Plus, unless you erase all current ethics and beliefs around the world, you just can't teach them something that won't be subjective or in accordance to their culture.

It's just impossible to smoothly make everyone a proper member of each society.
Best you can do, is to give them a chance and means to do so, but supposedly this happens already (democracy includes about havinge the same rights to existance, knowledge, works, being active in the society, politics etc)
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May 14 2007, 11:09:18
"Some people propose that there will be a nuclear winter, that a meteor will wipe out the human race, and all sorts of things. Just because it hasn't happened before, doesn't mean that it isn't a fairly probable event."


By the way, we have been hit by a meteor, and although no nuclear, there was a 1000 year freezing winter where only beings deep in the sea survived.

And anyway, what you say is pretty much impossible for a large community. Plus, unless you erase all current ethics and beliefs around the world, you just can't teach them something that won't be subjective or in accordance to their culture.

It's just impossible to smoothly make everyone a proper member of each society.
Best you can do, is to give them a chance and means to do so, but supposedly this happens already (democracy includes about havinge the same rights to existance, knowledge, works, being active in the society, politics etc)

Yes, but that wasn't during the time of Homo sapiens.


The entire ideal I have been stating is that a society would have to be created from scratch for it to work.
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And what I'm saying is that a society created from scratch with current knowledge, it would be doubtful it would develop that way.
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May 14 2007, 11:18:45
And what I'm saying is that a society created from scratch with current knowledge, it would be doubtful it would develop that way.

Guided by individuals, all wanting that ideal, it would.


Hell, America would probably be like the founding fathers wanted it, had the system not been capable of being corrupt.
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In simple words, we need an elder counsil of benevolent people who have complete control and ensure the best of the people.
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No, a small intertwined community of intellectuals and their families. 100 people or so, and which not only breeds to expand, but welcomes like-minded intellectuals to join. Natural growth plus immigration, all people knowing exactly what should be done.
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And Haruhi will be their God, punishing whoever strays fom the path.
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No.
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Hey, you have your fantasies, I have mine concerning the civilizations development.
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