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| Tweet Topic Started: Mar 24 2010, 08:44 PM (563 Views) | |
| Celeborn | Mar 24 2010, 08:44 PM Post #1 |
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I updated 1v1 rankings and the 2v2 team and elo ranks they can be found here: http://www.scevolution.com/ladders.htm having them as a website lets me have them in a table so they are easier to read. |
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| Broke[EvX] | Mar 24 2010, 10:14 PM Post #2 |
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Teh pwnz0r
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Nobody cares (about the 2s) |
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| DreZ | Mar 25 2010, 11:31 AM Post #3 |
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Fuck what she said
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Looks nice. |
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| Rampid | Mar 25 2010, 02:23 PM Post #4 |
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looks wrong. |
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| Broke[EvX] | Mar 25 2010, 03:38 PM Post #5 |
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Teh pwnz0r
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Looks ugly (We're talking about Rampid, right?) |
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| Celeborn | Mar 25 2010, 04:03 PM Post #6 |
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Fat
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how so? I mean I'll be honest individual 2s rankings are just kinda hard no matter how you evaluate them as there are many factors (the quality of your partner, and the quality of your opposing team, the ability to work together, who is making the judgement calls etc.) that make it hard to see what your level is no matter how you slice it. I attempted to account for skill of partner and opponents in my formula but I'm not accounting for teamwork, judgement calls etc. which is a factor. For example no matter how good you are if your partnering liq he's playing his way not yours but all my system accounts for is that liq generally does well. I dunno perhaps another system would be better but this is the best I could think up. At least it doesn't think Me/Tandem tying 2-2 to jerm/rampid and me/seatown tying 2-2 with jah/neo mean the same thing about my skill. I think the team ranks and the 1v1 ranks are nice tho. In both those circumstances straight up elo can be applied like it is in most strategy games and be applicable. the only limitation there is lack of data which is present no matter how you do it. |
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| Broke[EvX] | Mar 25 2010, 05:45 PM Post #7 |
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Teh pwnz0r
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Forgetting everything that's wrong with "your" system (I use quotations because you didn't write the script and rely on a third party to figure out how to make it work for you) for a second, the whole 2 different ranks thing is annoying. There's already a ranking system in place (that you didn't start) and we don't need 2 completely different ranks based on the same games updated by 2 different parties. It'd be like watching the superbowl and 2 independent parties are keeping score, one based on something like yards gained and another on touchdowns and 2 different winners are announced. I'm not a fan of censorship so I'm not going to delete your posts as others have in the past nor forbid you to post them but all you're doing is creating confusion, especially when you name the topic "updated ranks" as if these are the actual ranks our system is using right now (referring to 2v2s, you're in charge of updating the 1v1s and can do whatever you want). This isn't Burger King and you can't always have it your way. |
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| Celeborn | Mar 25 2010, 07:20 PM Post #8 |
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I just present the data in a different fashion. Its not like I am boycotting or anything or defying rules. I just wanted a different data assessment because I think who you play and who you partner is an important factor. Don't really see why you object. Also yes Azala programmed the data compilation software I don't really see why thats a bad thing at all. I don't have the programming experience so I found someone who does. I'm fine with working with others they often have skill sets I don't and by cooperating the end result can be achieved faster and better. I know its not evx's style but I don't care It allows me to do it easier and better then if I tried to do it without azala's help. Edit: Also for as long as the community existed every ranking system was disputed by somebody anyway I don't really think its that confusing. Edited by Celeborn, Mar 25 2010, 07:22 PM.
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| Rampid | Mar 25 2010, 07:33 PM Post #9 |
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That's because People, Emy, rigged the ladder. |
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| Broke[EvX] | Mar 25 2010, 08:49 PM Post #10 |
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Teh pwnz0r
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Are you really that stupid or do you just hate reading?
It's not. You taking credit for it bothers me. The world is full of dumb mother fuckers taking credit for a behind-the-scenes, much smarter individual's efforts and we don't need another.
Every law/rule/system/policy since the dawn of time has been disputed by somebody, that doesn't make all future disputes automatically valid or invalid so I fail to see what relevance that line has. In the past, there have been systems such as the original 1v1 ladder in which a couple of players arbitrarily picked what they considered to be the top 10 players in a ladder and everyone else would have to play all 10 of them to reach #1. This system was retarded, for obvious reasons, and those disputing it had a leg to stand on. However, those who didn't like the system, simply didn't participate. No one tried to force their own system down the throats of those who had taken the trouble to create the ladder system that was in place.
You know, nearly every time you get in a dispute with me or any one else in my clan, you play the "EvX are teh bad guys" card. What do any of the clans have to do with anything? Seriously, you run around with this faggy little "why can't we all just get along attitude?" on the surface but stir up shit with other clans at every opportunity. Ignoring how your read on me is completely off, I don't represent the personalities and opinions of my entire clan. Your habit of taking swings at and/or generalizing an entire clan displays a severe lack of logical thought and an obvious inferiority complex. It makes you look ignorant, petty, and small (metaphorically, of course, fat boy). |
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| DragoN[SeX] | Mar 25 2010, 09:25 PM Post #11 |
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You do realize that arguing with Sneaky is futile correct? I know it may make you feel all warm inside but you've had this same argument for at least 5 times... this year.... |
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| Broke[EvX] | Mar 25 2010, 09:56 PM Post #12 |
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Teh pwnz0r
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Fuck else am I gonna do, get a job? ;P |
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| Rampid | Mar 25 2010, 10:10 PM Post #13 |
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We've also had arguments about your grammar sucking. That doesn't mean we're going to stop pointing it out. "...you've had this same argument for at least 5 times..." |
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| DragoN[SeX] | Mar 25 2010, 10:19 PM Post #14 |
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I would point out how you're wrong but it's just easier to call you a dumbass. =P And a tool. |
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| Rampid | Mar 25 2010, 10:21 PM Post #15 |
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You're right, it is easier to call me a dumbass, but that doesn't make it right. |
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