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| Robot Bastards 2: The New Era - Discussion; Signups: January 25th to February 1st | |
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| Topic Started: Jan 8 2017, 08:46 PM (3,676 Views) | |
| BEES | Feb 16 2017, 03:41 PM Post #81 |
I've never lived by anyone's rules but my own.
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Had some bad luck but I think your MW will bring it back. |
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| patrickrowberry | Feb 16 2017, 03:43 PM Post #82 |
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i think this would have changed the result of the match |
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| Wolf51-50 | Feb 16 2017, 04:17 PM Post #83 |
HmmmmMMMMMMM......
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Huh. Good point from Pat. I think it's ok for now, but i think that might need changing soon. I don't want to sound blunt, but I don't think we should be excusing wedges and plows that are well over the 1/3 limit in future tournaments. A majority of the people here have been here long enough to know that the said plow or wedge must be 1/3 of the surface area (or at least be close enough where it seems realistic). Again, I apologize for spitting on some of the rammers, but this could be a problem in future tournaments Maybe we can find a way to define this rule better? |
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Alpha Robotics- Embrace the Carnage! Upcoming tournaments Reckoning: Revival Vovoka 0-0 (Lifetime 6-2) Current Tournaments: Ruination 4: The Upheaval LW: White Lightning 0-2 (Lifetime 3-5) MW: Diablo Genesis 0-2(Lifetime 5-2) HW: Coup de Grâce 1-1 (Lifetime 12-4)[currently reining HW CHAMPION] SHW: Fenrir 2-0 (Lifetime 2-1) "hey, that's my underground sex dungeon, not yours!" - The_Angry_Goat | |
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| The_Angry_Goat | Feb 16 2017, 06:05 PM Post #84 |
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since this is apparently becoming somewhat of an issue, I shall come in and make an Official Match-Writer Statement :V first of all, BEES, you seem to have earlier agreed with me that True Hero's wedge was too large for an armor bonus Part-time-Unicorn - 01/27/2017 as a side note, while going through robots so far it appears as though Pat's HW has an armor bonus over most of the robot BEES - 01/27/2017 then it has no armor bonus at all the 1/3rd rule will be STRICTLY ENFORCED so I was going off of that interaction. I do stand by this decision either way though; your wedge encompasses over half of the full length of your robot. if that's not more than 1/3, I have some issues with that rule. |
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‽ ROBOTICS (180 - 88 lifetime) Ruination 4 Nick's Fuzzy Rules: 7-1 Glitch: 5-3 Hazardous Waste Removal: 6-2 Khnum: 4-4 ROBOT2 Hat Garage: 0-0 Lilian: 0-0 Blue Max: 0-0 Neuromancer: 0-0 "giant fucking dinosaur" is in my top 5 picks to win the nut ~V900 So you're saying no arenas that fill the driver booths with powerful hallucinogenic gas that argle bargle THE ENEMY'S GATE IS SIDEWAYS ~ Rocket III 
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| BEES | Feb 16 2017, 06:20 PM Post #85 |
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I've never lived by anyone's rules but my own.
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There is no issue. Whether it has 10 armor or 7 armor on that wedge, it loses to Ridley because it's made of corners all over, and that's still enough of a point difference. It's also one of the few fights where I think that tail could actually be pretty useful. As for the quote... totally wasn't paying attention at all to the convo. But I suppose you've got me. I'll concede.  Actually it occurred to me that Dead probably breaks the 1/3rd rule as soon as I read its fight. A couple other bots have problems as well. Pat's bot is borderline. I could see it going either way. Edited by BEES, Feb 16 2017, 06:25 PM.
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| The_Angry_Goat | Feb 16 2017, 06:56 PM Post #86 |
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doesn't Dead get an exception, being a spinner? |
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‽ ROBOTICS (180 - 88 lifetime) Ruination 4 Nick's Fuzzy Rules: 7-1 Glitch: 5-3 Hazardous Waste Removal: 6-2 Khnum: 4-4 ROBOT2 Hat Garage: 0-0 Lilian: 0-0 Blue Max: 0-0 Neuromancer: 0-0 "giant fucking dinosaur" is in my top 5 picks to win the nut ~V900 So you're saying no arenas that fill the driver booths with powerful hallucinogenic gas that argle bargle THE ENEMY'S GATE IS SIDEWAYS ~ Rocket III
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| Siphai | Feb 16 2017, 07:33 PM Post #87 |
The Guy
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Yes. |
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Team Targeted - (36-12) Robot Bastards Dr. P: 4-8 Square Wave: 11-1 Snijmachine: 10-2 Parabolic Trajectory: 11-1 | |
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| attackfrog | Feb 16 2017, 08:18 PM Post #88 |
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1-2 is not a terrible start I guess. I lost a fight I was expecting to win and won a fight I was expecting to lose. I have some objections to the way a couple things played out though:
I had a strategy for this, actually: "If he's at my side, turn in to get the tongue under his side and flip fast." The tongue has pointy sides for a reason: so that I can spin around and get underneath someone when they're right next to me. Or is the point that I wouldn't be able to turn with another robot next to me? And against Sucker Punch,
Water Strider is an undercutter, so the disk is quite close to the ground. That wedge looks at least a couple inches high. Even if it did slip underneath, it would have gotten hit by one of the teeth doing so and taken some damage. Ah whatever, I'm just griping. I don't know if these things would have made any difference in the outcomes. I just don't want my robots to be misrepresented. Good fights, Wolf/Drew! I seriously thought I was screwed against Coup de Grace. |
 Ruination IV: The Upheaval - Pinstripe (LW: 4 - 3) / The Maw (MW: 3 - 4) / Sinmill (HW: 4 - 3) / Speed Bison (SHW: 7 - 1 and in the semifinals!) REDDIT - Super Swordfish (HW: 4 - 2 and in the round of 16!) RoBattle - The Gourmet (LW: 9pts) / Hercules (HW: 12pts) R.O.B.O.T.S. II - Buzzcut (FW: 0 - 0) / Splashdown (LW: 0 - 0) / Frogbot 2000 (MW: 0 - 0) / Boy Flaily (HW: 0 - 0) [attackfrog on Sketchfab] | [The Ruination IV Visual Guide] | [The REDDIT Visual Guide] | |
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| Madman | Feb 16 2017, 10:30 PM Post #89 |
The Shit Disturber
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Good to see Hoarfrost and Hellhound doing what they're built to do. I have a feeling it's going to be one of those seasons for Meanstreak. People just don't have any confidence in a high-speed, low-armour control spinner. I should've learned from the old HWR's example. As far as Hellhound's bonus goes, it's close for sure, but I was informed that it was alright and I wouldn't have entered it otherwise. Any idea when the week two bracket is gonna be up? |
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Tartarus Robotics Group: 102-32 ||| Black Dog ||| Hellhound SHW: Morality (1-0), Krakatoa (6-1), Neon Rampage (0-0), Intimidator (0-0) HW: Hellhound (29-11), Meanstreak (10-3), Blood Eagle (0-0) MW: Black Dog (10-1), Sundancer (13-2), Eye of Newt (3-0) LW: Savage (3-4), Wild Child (0-1), Hoarfrost (11-4), Krakatoa XS (3-1) FW: Talons Out! (10-3), Hellcat (0-0) HBW: Tiger (1-1), Midnight Sun (0-0) Tournaments Entered "My friend and i may have possibly made a nuke/exponentially growing fully automated chicken farm in minecraft" - The_Angry_Goat "That slash is doing some hard work there" - Trihunter | |
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| Shaba117 | Feb 16 2017, 11:46 PM Post #90 |
Raytheism <3
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Alright, first off, congrats to Playzooki, Adam, and Charles! Yeah, the armor bonus thing-doesn't affect any of my bots, so I'm not touching that subject-that's up to BEES to deal with that issue. Concerning my H/W match:
Death Metal has 7 armor and HH sure didn't cause enough damage with 1 weapon point (and internal damage isn't an issue with DM, either). How would DM get K.O.'d? |
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| The_Angry_Goat | Feb 16 2017, 11:53 PM Post #91 |
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Probably the good 'ol writer's too lazy to write any more of the match KO :V |
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‽ ROBOTICS (180 - 88 lifetime) Ruination 4 Nick's Fuzzy Rules: 7-1 Glitch: 5-3 Hazardous Waste Removal: 6-2 Khnum: 4-4 ROBOT2 Hat Garage: 0-0 Lilian: 0-0 Blue Max: 0-0 Neuromancer: 0-0 "giant fucking dinosaur" is in my top 5 picks to win the nut ~V900 So you're saying no arenas that fill the driver booths with powerful hallucinogenic gas that argle bargle THE ENEMY'S GATE IS SIDEWAYS ~ Rocket III
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| The Monsterworks | Feb 17 2017, 10:42 AM Post #92 |
Ridiculum et Terribilis
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Kek, this ^ I've been there before myself. Doesn't change the outcome of the match, IMO, but you're right to point it out. Also, if points matter in playoff qualification and subsequent matchups, it should probably be looked at, TBF. |
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Wins: a bunch Losses: more every week! Mastodon (Extinction) || Osiris (Armageddon!) || Elrathia (ROBOTS) | |
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| NWOWWE | Feb 17 2017, 10:51 AM Post #93 |
Team Blood Gulch Motto
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Blarg. This one thing I hate about the damage scale.  What's the point of even having hazards that don't have enough weapon points to cause any damage at all to most bots?
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| playzooki | Feb 17 2017, 11:08 AM Post #94 |
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I think we shouldn't bother with giving hazards specific weapon values, you either have them too high and fuck over spinners, or too low and barely anyone takes any damage. There is no middle ground. |
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March or Die - Ruination: The Omen MW Last Eight, Ruination: The Omen Tag Team Champion (with the Green Hornet / NWOWWE), Ruination: The Contagion MW CHAMPION Corrupt Politician - Reign of Steel SHW Finalist Murder Is Fun! - Reign of Steel HW Semi-Finalist Shrek - Hammerfall 4th Place
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| The Monsterworks | Feb 17 2017, 11:10 AM Post #95 |
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Ridiculum et Terribilis
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I kind of agree with zooks on this one. I can see why having 7 point hazards is pointless, but then again, how much damage do they usually do anyways irl? They've always been 75% for show. |
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Wins: a bunch Losses: more every week! Mastodon (Extinction) || Osiris (Armageddon!) || Elrathia (ROBOTS) | |
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| BEES | Feb 17 2017, 11:32 AM Post #96 |
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I've never lived by anyone's rules but my own.
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The hazards are pool noodles. Robots that have <5 armor will get hurt by them. For everyone else it's just a JD feature. This is important because in tournaments where the hazards are 12 or something retarded, only high armored bots are really viable unless the writers take huge liberties to help out spinners/flippers/hammers. I believe we're missing Pterodactyl vs Whipcoil but otherwise we're finished now, and only a week late! Truly off to a rolling start. Week 2 will be pushed back obviously.
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| The Monsterworks | Feb 17 2017, 09:50 PM Post #97 |
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Ridiculum et Terribilis
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Do you need me to sub in and write it? |
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Wins: a bunch Losses: more every week! Mastodon (Extinction) || Osiris (Armageddon!) || Elrathia (ROBOTS) | |
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| GF93 | Feb 17 2017, 10:51 PM Post #98 |
Vi veri veniversum vivus vici.
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OK, hopefully that should give me some time to redefine my approach accordingly. The 500-character limit might've turned my usual RPing style completely on its head, but now that I've had some time to ponder it- I'm just going to say that it'll be a dark day when I'm kept down by something like that.
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Ice Cubed Robotics  "I will not die until I achieve something. Even though the ideal is high, I never give in. Therefore, I never die with regrets." Cherry Bomb Classic: Season 2 (8-0) Swiftsure- 2-0 Torque Dirty 2 Me- 2-0 Ayame- 1-0 Dead on Arrival- 1-0 Barley Picker- 1-0 Lethal Injection 3- 1-0 Robot Bastards 2 (5-5) Apathy & Lethargy- 2-1 Trump ex Machina- 0-3 Rainbow in the Dark- 3-1 (6-3) Ruination: The Upheaval (20-8) Ayame- 6-1 Marauder- 6-1 Dreadnought Mk3- 3-4 Lethal Injection 3- 5-2 ALL-TIME RECORD Wins: 347 Losses: 230
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| Toxic | Feb 18 2017, 06:19 PM Post #99 |
Heavyweight
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So out of curiosity, what is the design flaw in DUDES design? This is literally the first time I have heard of it so I'd love some clarification. |
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| Wolf51-50 | Feb 18 2017, 09:27 PM Post #100 |
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HmmmmMMMMMMM......
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I'm not completely sure, given I wasn't here when D.U.D.E. was first built, but I think it might be that the flipper is a box instead of a wedge. Certain wedge designs might be able to get under the flipper itself. Being a dustpan design, that doesn't hurt it much. But I can see how some writers might be a bit skeptical on it. That's about it though. I can see it making the playoffs this time around |
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Alpha Robotics- Embrace the Carnage! Upcoming tournaments Reckoning: Revival Vovoka 0-0 (Lifetime 6-2) Current Tournaments: Ruination 4: The Upheaval LW: White Lightning 0-2 (Lifetime 3-5) MW: Diablo Genesis 0-2(Lifetime 5-2) HW: Coup de Grâce 1-1 (Lifetime 12-4)[currently reining HW CHAMPION] SHW: Fenrir 2-0 (Lifetime 2-1) "hey, that's my underground sex dungeon, not yours!" - The_Angry_Goat | |
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