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Let's ban rammers
Topic Started: Sep 4 2016, 11:53 PM (1,245 Views)
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Actually, I think that Patrick meant that you wouldn't even be able to apply a non-weapon armour bonus to them. While I think that would go a long way towards remedying the problem, it's also highly unrealistic in terms of the irl game.
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So in a way, it's almost like, either spinners or rammers will have to be incredibly overpowered at one time. Given the choice though, I'd much prefer it to be rammers- given that I feel there's a lot more skill and strategy to using a predominantly drivetrain-based machine effectively than a spinner, which under most circumstances can just get by with RPs consisting entirely of "spin up, drive into the other guy, repeat, and hope I don't die first".
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Feb 8 2017, 06:54 AM
So in a way, it's almost like, either spinners or rammers will have to be incredibly overpowered at one time. Given the choice though, I'd much prefer it to be rammers- given that I feel there's a lot more skill and strategy to using a predominantly drivetrain-based machine effectively than a spinner, which under most circumstances can just get by with RPs consisting entirely of "spin up, drive into the other guy, repeat, and hope I don't die first".
With the 500 character limit, that RP is too long
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GF93
Feb 8 2017, 06:54 AM
So in a way, it's almost like, either spinners or rammers will have to be incredibly overpowered at one time. Given the choice though, I'd much prefer it to be rammers- given that I feel there's a lot more skill and strategy to using a predominantly drivetrain-based machine effectively than a spinner, which under most circumstances can just get by with RPs consisting entirely of "spin up, drive into the other guy, repeat, and hope I don't die first".
that just means you haven't RPed for the right kinda spinner yet :P
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there's a lot more skill and strategy to using a predominantly drivetrain-based machine effectively


It's actually quite difficult to drive a spinner in real life. And there's certainly more skill involved in engineering one, as opposed to a weaponless doorstop on wheels.

Also none of this matters in fic.
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I uave always thought of making engineering a part of the tournament where say, a motor burned out. In a separate builder thread, the RPer must say what needs to get fixed. If they don't, then they lose that vital part of machinery in that fight.
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That kind of thing is way more FRA-ish than ARC is designed to be. That kind of thing is basically locking out anyone that doesn't know the first thing about real engineering which isn't what we want to do.
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I should go 3-1 this week but it'll probably be something like 0-4 or 0-5.

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Yeah let's introduce the not-fun parts of robot combat like repairing things. Clearly that's what we're missing. :v:
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HmmmmMMMMMMM......
Just putting it out there. Then again, spinners would be hysterically nerfed since they pretty much break themselves after every fight :v:
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Feb 9 2017, 11:35 AM
Yeah let's introduce the not-fun parts of robot combat like repairing things. Clearly that's what we're missing. :v:
And if we set up a Crowdfund thing, perhaps we can also add putting out LiPo fires and picking tiny shards of titanium out of your hair after each fight as well. :v:
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Why not just have both. :v:
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HmmmmMMMMMMM......
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HmmmmMMMMMMM......
Double posting. I know. But for the future, what if we made it a rule that in order for lifters to be able to press, they must use up 1 point to press. So instead of having a 5 point lifter, it would be (4 lifter, 1 pressing). Thoughts?
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You could easily extend that to requiring a weapon split for lifting and lowering. I don't think anyone wants to spend 7 points to get the equivalent of the current 5 point lifter.

But let's say we do add that to the rules and explicitly state that this split only applies to pressing. What good does this do? A 1 point lifter has just as much pressing power as a 5 point lifter. Furthermore, it's all one mechanism anyway, which leads to a confusing inconsistency with all of our other weapon split rules. It just seems pointless and arbitrary to introduce a lifter nerf that way.
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Just deduct like 5-6 points from Rammers/Lifters so they start out with like 24-25 instead of 30.
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Feb 13 2017, 08:51 PM
Just deduct like 5-6 points from Rammers/Lifters so they start out with like 24-25 instead of 30.
So I'm guessing this is your revenge on Klarinette. :v:
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Feb 13 2017, 09:36 PM
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Feb 13 2017, 08:51 PM
Just deduct like 5-6 points from Rammers/Lifters so they start out with like 24-25 instead of 30.
So I'm guessing this is your revenge on Klarinette. :v:
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HmmmmMMMMMMM......
Lifters in general are OP :V and no no Brad. I mean that you have to use one point to press. Without the one point needed, said lifter won't be able to press. Ex: for there to be a 1 point lifter, it would cost 2 points if it wanted to be a pressing lifter (1 lifter, 1 pressing). It can lift, but will have the same advantages as a hinged wedge (unless it's 2WD). And only one point would be used just to make pressing possible. You wouldn't be allowed to add two points to it. Sure it's all in one mechanism and it may be confusing. Hell, sure people won't want to use six points for a 5 point lifter. But that's the goal, isn't it? To cut back on the amount of lifters and to nerf them enough to where they are equal to other weapons
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