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| The_Angry_Goat | May 10 2016, 12:00 AM Post #81 |
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I disagree. if you're going to make a horizontal clamp, you should just enter it into competitions in which there are few spinners and hope for the best. I'd also suggest doing something like I do on Cuddle Time! and Big Spoon!, where you give it a rear plow with some sort of armor bonus. I think that making a horizontal clamp is a better bet than trying to make something that actually crushes effectively from the sides, though I am of the opinion that horizontal weapons will never be particularly effective (though I'd like to see it work) |
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‽ ROBOTICS (180 - 88 lifetime) Ruination 4 Nick's Fuzzy Rules: 7-1 Glitch: 5-3 Hazardous Waste Removal: 6-2 Khnum: 4-4 ROBOT2 Hat Garage: 0-0 Lilian: 0-0 Blue Max: 0-0 Neuromancer: 0-0 "giant fucking dinosaur" is in my top 5 picks to win the nut ~V900 So you're saying no arenas that fill the driver booths with powerful hallucinogenic gas that argle bargle THE ENEMY'S GATE IS SIDEWAYS ~ Rocket III ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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| British-Robotics | May 10 2016, 02:03 AM Post #82 |
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Hmm, I'm liking the walking robot idea but like you said, It may take some time to come up with a design like that, A wheeled robot with a lifting clamp may sound like a wise idea. but now it depends on the body shape of the robot itself. Looking at Kan-Opener fro Robot Wars his jaws only gets stuck and lodged into the robots side armourment which I don't want. I'll come up with a concept design. Edited by British-Robotics, May 10 2016, 02:08 AM.
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TEAM TBR Team: FRR Backlash Powerdrive Jr 0-4 Lethal Carriageway 3-1 Sparkster 4-0 Chemical Explosion V2 1-3 "Completely British Killers" Ruination: The Contagion: Chemical Explosion - SHW Champion Rocket Knight - HW Quarter Finalist Awards: Ruination: The Contagion: Chemical Explosion: (Astrobot Award, The Windmill Award, Blood Thirsty Award (Shared with Redemption Denied) | |
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| BEES | May 11 2016, 12:59 PM Post #83 |
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I've never lived by anyone's rules but my own.
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I think clamps/crushers can work IRL but they tend to need modular parts. Note BiteForce's anti-spinner plow or clamping attachments, depending on the matchup. This is very difficult to convey in a stat system. You can't just change your stat points between fights but that's essentially what these robots do. |
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| NWOWWE | May 11 2016, 01:06 PM Post #84 |
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Team Blood Gulch Motto
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| British-Robotics | May 24 2016, 01:21 AM Post #85 |
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This is the design I've done for my new LW called Padlock LW - Padlock ![]() This robot has a lifter/vertical crusher weapon in order to grab the opponents, the jaws itself can widen at a 45 degree angle outwards is order to broaden the opportunity to grab the opponent whilst the actual weapon that holds the claws can rotate in a 180 degree angle and it is a 2WD driven machine for better maneuverability, the front of the robot has a hinged shovel at the front for good protection. The weapon can help the robot self right ins case it is turned over since the motors that control the weapon are strong enough to do the job. Stats: Speed: 6 Traction: 4 Torque: 3 Armor: 10 Weapon: 7 (5 clamp, 5 lifter) I'm still considering to enter with this robot in the next tournament but I can't quite point my finger out as to how to improve the set of jaws. Make them broaden and wider? |
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TEAM TBR Team: FRR Backlash Powerdrive Jr 0-4 Lethal Carriageway 3-1 Sparkster 4-0 Chemical Explosion V2 1-3 "Completely British Killers" Ruination: The Contagion: Chemical Explosion - SHW Champion Rocket Knight - HW Quarter Finalist Awards: Ruination: The Contagion: Chemical Explosion: (Astrobot Award, The Windmill Award, Blood Thirsty Award (Shared with Redemption Denied) | |
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| scorpion1m | Jun 23 2016, 01:14 PM Post #86 |
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the broniest robot fan
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i'm working on vacuum powered robot (think a mini hover-boat with a drum) would it be classed as a hover bot despite the fact it will be touching the floor but will have no wheels |
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| Hooray For Lexan | Jun 23 2016, 05:11 PM Post #87 |
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Design and stats look pretty good. I especially like the rear wedge for fighting spinners. The main issue I see is that, as you said, the jaws should probably be wider. Also, my personal preference would be to make a design like that front-wheel drive so that the clamp itself doesn't move side to side much as you turn. This will give you better precision in grabbing onto an opponent. |
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| Mole55 | Jul 23 2016, 06:23 AM Post #88 |
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See Syl, no creativity!
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Is there anything currently in the rules for gyroscopic procession? |
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North-West Sheds: 26-56 New Blood Tournament HW: The Animals: 3-1 Robot Fight Night MW: Ikea's Guard Dog: 2-1 HW: Dock Leaf 2: 1-2 The Gentleman's Club FW: Mr Halsworth: 1-0 HW: Fathom: 1-1 Notable Results: Tyrian reaching the playoffs in CBC1 Sleipnir reaching the playoffs in R.O.B.O.T.S The Animals coming 2nd in New Blodo Not including rumbles, loaned robots, friendlies or tag-teams. Spoiler: click to toggle
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| The Monsterworks | Jul 23 2016, 07:49 AM Post #89 |
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Ridiculum et Terribilis
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As far as I know, there isn't. However, I'm working on a draft version for CBC as I'd like people to enter some novel designs. As it stands Currently, there's nothing on the books, although I think that bots using gyroscopic precession wouldn't be eligible for a walker bonus. However, they also wouldn't need to invest any points into their drivetrains. Somebody already proposed a bot that works on a slightly different type of gyroscopic precession. Here's my tentative reply:
If you're thinking of going pure gyro without any actuated parts, then you're basically just getting free drivetrain points. That's how I'll pilot my provisional rules for now. We'll see how it works out. |
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| The_Angry_Goat | Jul 23 2016, 02:52 PM Post #90 |
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Under the current rules, Badnik made a clone of No Fly Zone (propeller bot) and IIRC his forwards speed was something like 1/2 his weapon power (he should correct me if I'm wrong since i can't seem to find where we decided on that). I imagine something similar would be done for a gyroscopic procession bot, and then you'd also have to give a weapon point to the thing that turns your weapon so you can actually proceed gyroscopically
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‽ ROBOTICS (180 - 88 lifetime) Ruination 4 Nick's Fuzzy Rules: 7-1 Glitch: 5-3 Hazardous Waste Removal: 6-2 Khnum: 4-4 ROBOT2 Hat Garage: 0-0 Lilian: 0-0 Blue Max: 0-0 Neuromancer: 0-0 "giant fucking dinosaur" is in my top 5 picks to win the nut ~V900 So you're saying no arenas that fill the driver booths with powerful hallucinogenic gas that argle bargle THE ENEMY'S GATE IS SIDEWAYS ~ Rocket III ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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| The_Angry_Goat | Jul 23 2016, 10:26 PM Post #91 |
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yes ok sirocco's movement was weapon/traction, which seems like a fair way to stat a gyroscopic procession bot as well |
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‽ ROBOTICS (180 - 88 lifetime) Ruination 4 Nick's Fuzzy Rules: 7-1 Glitch: 5-3 Hazardous Waste Removal: 6-2 Khnum: 4-4 ROBOT2 Hat Garage: 0-0 Lilian: 0-0 Blue Max: 0-0 Neuromancer: 0-0 "giant fucking dinosaur" is in my top 5 picks to win the nut ~V900 So you're saying no arenas that fill the driver booths with powerful hallucinogenic gas that argle bargle THE ENEMY'S GATE IS SIDEWAYS ~ Rocket III ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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| scorpion1m | Jul 29 2016, 03:07 PM Post #92 |
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the broniest robot fan
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how do i make my tournament better and do my rules need fixing or better explanation and are drone/ micro bot rules fair |
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| The_Angry_Goat | Jul 29 2016, 07:47 PM Post #93 |
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my issues with your tournament are twofold: 1) you are an untested writer, and - if I'm being honest - your poor grammar and sentence structure in your RPs make me really doubt your ability in that area 2) there's already 5 other tournaments lined up (my short one, then R4 or CBC, then the other one, and the snake thing, and then Bot-o-Rama), so I dont see a reason to join yours - I'd be doing to much and probably get overwhelmed, which is the opposite of what I want to do on a website I participate on for fun. your drone/microbot stuff is decent, not something I'm really interested in though (personal opinion there). it'd need to be tested for it to be figured out for sure though |
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‽ ROBOTICS (180 - 88 lifetime) Ruination 4 Nick's Fuzzy Rules: 7-1 Glitch: 5-3 Hazardous Waste Removal: 6-2 Khnum: 4-4 ROBOT2 Hat Garage: 0-0 Lilian: 0-0 Blue Max: 0-0 Neuromancer: 0-0 "giant fucking dinosaur" is in my top 5 picks to win the nut ~V900 So you're saying no arenas that fill the driver booths with powerful hallucinogenic gas that argle bargle THE ENEMY'S GATE IS SIDEWAYS ~ Rocket III ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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| scorpion1m | Jul 30 2016, 07:58 AM Post #94 |
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if needs to i want be a writer for the tournament and it won't happen to after cbc it should start in October ish that the plan |
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| The Monsterworks | Jul 31 2016, 06:41 AM Post #95 |
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Okay, scorpion, I'm going to be brutally honest, and there's no insult intended, so please don't be offended. 1) Let's examine this sentence that your wrote in your reply: "if needs to i want be a writer for the tournament". You used the word 'want' instead of 'won't', which completely changes the meaning of the sentence. It seems that you do realize that spelling and grammar are simply things that you aren't good with and are willing to step aside and act as director only. This is a wise choice. 2) FRR will run until about the beginning of October and both Showbots and CBC will be starting very soon after (first the former, and then the latter), so an October start would interfere with both. It just isn't feasible. 3) Your understanding of how stats work seems to differ greatly from that of the rest of the ARC community. You continue to seriously RP with a couple of bots that everybody else considers (by their interpretation of the rules) to have virtually no control. This could prove problematic. 4) I actually like some of the ideas that you have. They're not bad at all and your drone and minibot ones are very similar to what I've been thinking for a while now. The idea of having a whole team in one weight class also has potential. However, you have to realize that most people's teams aren't that deep in one weight class. Personally, if I was running your tournament, I'd go for something more like a pokemon battle, where you have a team of 3-4 bots and a matchup against someone else's 3-4 bots each week with a limited number of substitutions available. That's actually something that I want to do in the future and you're welcome to help me organize it. 5) Hopefully this helped to clear some things up. Cheers, mate. |
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| scorpion1m | Aug 2 2016, 04:54 PM Post #96 |
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can you please evaluate my writing skills i did for this match and if a am good enough to be a writer or not or should let someone else do it? this the match i am writing for http://scorpion1m.deviantart.com/art/pats-uk-champ-semi-final-3-4-final-574602917 pro stats speed 7 traction 5 torque 2 weapon 5 armour 11 Pegasus device speed 5 traction 3 torque 2 weapon 17 (12 for crusher here we have are two robots both who won there heats and got to final of this semi final but only 1 can get into the final four. we have the powerful flipper of pro that has been ko robots out of the arena and out playing others and has been a favourite for this championships but his opponent is the Biteforce rip-of that no one would of guess to get this far but hist lifting and crushing skills have matched up to the very best and is looking for victory. the two competitors shake hands as the robots get in position, pro in the left square tests his flipper and it looks amazing as Pegasus device in the right red square movies its crusher and lifter in unison after the show boating the robot face each other as the lights flash red..red...red..green... the two robots charge each other but pro under estimates the lifter and goes straight up it and gets grabbed before it can get free Pegasus device goes of the lift but it crusher deals no damage to pro well armed flipper as it tires to flip it self free the first 2 times fail but the third succeeds before Pegasus device can take him to the side letting pro get free but lands upside down and self rights and drives away. Pegasus device can't take advantage due to pro's speed but both are facing each other and pro is less aggressive but Pegasus device reacts by get his lifter under him and pushing him to the wall as pro tries and fail to flip out of it but as soon as the reach the wall pro drives backwards and gets 1 amazing side flip on Pegasus device sending the robot flying and do a full 360 close to the wall but land inside the arena and pro charges and get another flip in this time more under Pegasus device and is so close to being chucked out but bonces luckily in and facing pro side and get a good grab and lift and pro can't escape no matter how many times he tries to flip but before he can take pro to the wall the time goes and the match ends the Pegasus device lets go of pro inside the arena in a sporting gesture as it goes to the judges.. and what is this the judges are inspecting the robots for damage as it is that close both robots luck basically intact i wonder if it will come down to scars of brushes and its tight aggression 8-7 pro damage 8-7 Pegasus device strategy 8-7 Pegasus device 23-22 to Pegasus device ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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| scorpion1m | Aug 11 2016, 02:23 PM Post #97 |
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you know what i will i will allow people to use my drone rules and make sure i save them and the tournament will be drone fore the start of next year i will dealt the thread and re-create it with a shinny new name or let someone else hold a thread into i gain enough knowledge and respect to hold one |
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| Deleted User | Sep 6 2016, 12:12 PM Post #98 |
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I am having a hard time getting into Ruination . I do not know what is wrong. |
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| GF93 | Sep 6 2016, 01:29 PM Post #99 |
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Vi veri veniversum vivus vici.
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Ice Cubed Robotics "I will not die until I achieve something. Even though the ideal is high, I never give in. Therefore, I never die with regrets." Cherry Bomb Classic: Season 2 (8-0) Swiftsure- 2-0 Torque Dirty 2 Me- 2-0 Ayame- 1-0 Dead on Arrival- 1-0 Barley Picker- 1-0 Lethal Injection 3- 1-0 Robot Bastards 2 (5-5) Apathy & Lethargy- 2-1 Trump ex Machina- 0-3 Rainbow in the Dark- 3-1 (6-3) Ruination: The Upheaval (20-8) Ayame- 6-1 Marauder- 6-1 Dreadnought Mk3- 3-4 Lethal Injection 3- 5-2 ALL-TIME RECORD Wins: 347 Losses: 230
Notable Achievements on Advanced Robot Combat for make benefit glorious Team of Ice Cubed Robotics
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| Hooray For Lexan | Sep 6 2016, 02:13 PM Post #100 |
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Goddamnit GF93, that image makes me laugh every time I see it. Anyway, Asbestosstar: Step 1: Make sure to post in the correct thread, and use signups instead of double posting. Step 2: I'd say the really big thing is to get some more practice on whatever CAD program you're using. There ought to be some tutorials out there. You can also ask more experienced users to help with your designs if you have an initial sketch that's intelligible. Right now your SHW and MW are acceptable, if a bit unpolished, but your LW's spinning boxes clip through its chassis and your HW appears to depict two different robots. Step 3: On your signup post, make sure you explain the basics of how your robot works - at the very least what weapon you have. Step 4: Improving stats. MOST robots don't need more than 2 torque. 1 is fine for spinners. Only use 3 torque if your design is something very torque-dependent, like a lifter. You can also generally get away with having speed up to 2 points higher than traction. For example, on "spinny," I might use: Speed 5, Traction 4, Torque 1. Also, balance your weaponry and armor. On a spinner, a weapon power of 12-14 is generally a good idea. Keep your weapon armor (base armor + 2 for overhead, shell, and ring spinners, base armor + 4 for every other kind of spinner) 5 points lower than your weapon power at a bare minimum, and preferably 4 points lower. For non-spinners, try to have at least 9 armor on the front of your robot: with good design this will keep most spinners from one-shotting you. Step 5: Design Improvements. There are several important things here. First, make sure anything you build can self-right. Second, try to design your chassis in a way that prevents spinners from getting corner damage on you. Third, make sure your wedges touch the ground, either by resting on the ground for a 2WD machine or with hinges. If they do not touch the ground, they are not useful. |
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