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"How Can I Improve..."; the ARC version
Topic Started: Jul 7 2013, 03:52 PM (2,089 Views)
GF93
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Badnik96
Dec 14 2013, 09:00 PM
playzooki
Dec 14 2013, 03:13 AM
Use general disarray
No, it'd do crap in SHW
Aye. I'd suggest using it for MW or HW, myself.
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Cherry Bomb Classic: Season 2 (8-0)
Swiftsure- 2-0
Torque Dirty 2 Me- 2-0
Ayame- 1-0
Dead on Arrival- 1-0
Barley Picker- 1-0
Lethal Injection 3- 1-0

Robot Bastards 2 (5-5)
Apathy & Lethargy- 2-1
Trump ex Machina- 0-3
Rainbow in the Dark- 3-1 (6-3)

Ruination: The Upheaval (20-8)
Ayame- 6-1
Marauder- 6-1
Dreadnought Mk3- 3-4
Lethal Injection 3- 5-2

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Losses: 230
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Ill trade PS for Murder and Slaughter. :v:
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I'm starting to regret entering.
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MassimoV
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I gotta go build some new stuff over winter break. Probably will use Bad Trip in LW though cause it's pretty swag.
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how do i make the playoffs
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May 6 2014, 06:31 PM
how do i make the playoffs
give favours to mr. as
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Badnik96
May 6 2014, 06:31 PM
how do i make the playoffs
Scrub all the floors in Hyrule, then we can talk about Playoffs.
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"I will not die until I achieve something. Even though the ideal is high, I never give in. Therefore, I never die with regrets."

Cherry Bomb Classic: Season 2 (8-0)
Swiftsure- 2-0
Torque Dirty 2 Me- 2-0
Ayame- 1-0
Dead on Arrival- 1-0
Barley Picker- 1-0
Lethal Injection 3- 1-0

Robot Bastards 2 (5-5)
Apathy & Lethargy- 2-1
Trump ex Machina- 0-3
Rainbow in the Dark- 3-1 (6-3)

Ruination: The Upheaval (20-8)
Ayame- 6-1
Marauder- 6-1
Dreadnought Mk3- 3-4
Lethal Injection 3- 5-2

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Losses: 230
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i scrubbed them already can i be in the playoffs now?
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Corrupt Politician - Reign of Steel SHW Finalist
Murder Is Fun! - Reign of Steel HW Semi-Finalist
Shrek - Hammerfall 4th Place

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playzooki
May 7 2014, 02:06 AM
i scrubbed them already can i be in the playoffs now?
Sorry Zooks, but-
Ice Cubed Robotics Posted Image
"I will not die until I achieve something. Even though the ideal is high, I never give in. Therefore, I never die with regrets."

Cherry Bomb Classic: Season 2 (8-0)
Swiftsure- 2-0
Torque Dirty 2 Me- 2-0
Ayame- 1-0
Dead on Arrival- 1-0
Barley Picker- 1-0
Lethal Injection 3- 1-0

Robot Bastards 2 (5-5)
Apathy & Lethargy- 2-1
Trump ex Machina- 0-3
Rainbow in the Dark- 3-1 (6-3)

Ruination: The Upheaval (20-8)
Ayame- 6-1
Marauder- 6-1
Dreadnought Mk3- 3-4
Lethal Injection 3- 5-2

ALL-TIME RECORD
Wins: 347
Losses: 230
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GF93
May 7 2014, 04:04 AM
playzooki
May 7 2014, 02:06 AM
i scrubbed them already can i be in the playoffs now?
Sorry Zooks, but-
considering im tied first in another arc tourney... :v:
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Corrupt Politician - Reign of Steel SHW Finalist
Murder Is Fun! - Reign of Steel HW Semi-Finalist
Shrek - Hammerfall 4th Place

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Hooray For Lexan
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So, I'd like a quick clarification on the walker rules.

According to the wiki, a walker is:
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any robot that moves by contact with the floor other than that outlined under section A. Also, no individual component of the walking system can rotate 360 degrees around an axle. The 360 degree motion of the ‘feet’ must come from the combined motions of other parts.


However, robots are also expected to comply with RFL rules, and according to the Robogames Rules:

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3.1.2. Non-wheeled: non-wheeled robots have no rolling elements in contact with the floor and no continuous rolling or cam operated motion in contact with the floor, either directly or via a linkage, but are not true walkers as defined below. Motion is "continuous" if continuous operation of the drive motor(s) produces continuous motion of the robot. Linear-actuated legs and novel non-wheeled drive systems are examples, but do not qualify for the "walking bonus."
3.1.3. Walking: Walking robots are defined as those with linear-actuated legs which operate independent of each other. That is, any given leg must be able to move laterally and vertically with no cause and effect from another leg. Only walkers as defined by this section qualify for the weight bonus, and only as designated by a tournament official.


To what extent do these rules apply to ARC, and how is: "360 degree motion of an individual part" defined?

For example, in an ARC event would a robot where the legs were operated by an electric motor pulling a part back and forth along a linear rail using a belt or chain be considered a walker? The individual sprocket might be able to rotate more than 360 degrees, but continuous operation of the motor in the same direction would not result in continuous rotational or translational movement of the robot, or of the "foot."

What about a robot with two feet on each side, connected in a sort of "see-saw" linkage, where moving one leg up moves the other down, and moving one leg forward moves the other backward. Linear actuators would fire in a sequence like: "start with outside leg lowered and forward and inside leg raised and backward. Move outside leg backward and inside leg forward. Raise outside leg and lower inside leg. Move inside leg backward and outside leg forward. Raise inside leg and loser outside leg. Repeat." Because the legs would not be independent this would not qualify as a walker under Robogames rules, but would it be a walker under ARC rules?

Finally, are components not directly connected to the legs, such as a hydraulic pump or a flywheel used for energy storage, allowed to rotate continuously?
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The_Angry_Goat
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Ive always taken the walker rule to mean "if it isnt a walker, dont call it that" - in other words, if youre trying to skirt the rules or build something that is technically a walker, its not a walker. If it looks like a walker and would have the limitations of a walker, it's probably a walker. I cant speak to the specifics, though :v:
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Ruination 4
Nick's Fuzzy Rules: 7-1
Glitch: 5-3
Hazardous Waste Removal: 6-2
Khnum: 4-4


ROBOT2
Hat Garage: 0-0
Lilian: 0-0
Blue Max: 0-0
Neuromancer: 0-0

"giant fucking dinosaur" is in my top 5 picks to win the nut ~V900
So you're saying no arenas that fill the driver booths with powerful hallucinogenic gas that argle bargle THE ENEMY'S GATE IS SIDEWAYS ~ Rocket III
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MadBull
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Texas does raise a fair point though. You want your walker to be powered by a rotational engine. That is not "cheating" by any sense of the imagination, as long as the final contact with the floor is a true walking motion. TRUE walkers in Battlebots and Robot Wars still use electric engines. The whole intention of the "no 360 degrees walking motion" was BASICALLY meant to ban shufflers, robots that basically use, well, square wheels, so that they suddenly seem to be hopping around rather than driving so that it vaguely resembles walking. THAT is cheating your way towards a walking mechanism, and THAT is what should be exempt from the mass bonus.

But yeah, with poor wording the rule has now, walkers are technically not allowed to use a normal engine, that really can't be right.
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Rob Collins
Jul 7 2013, 04:08 PM
How the hell do I make a 3D creation of my robot!?
tinkercad.com is really easy to use. Drag a square, select color and size, then drag another shape.
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Ballast: 0-0
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Nov 24 2015, 12:25 PM
Rob Collins
Jul 7 2013, 04:08 PM
How the hell do I make a 3D creation of my robot!?
tinkercad.com is really easy to use. Drag a square, select color and size, then drag another shape.
Rob hasn't been around the boards for a couple years, but this is still useful as general advice.
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I should go 3-1 this week but it'll probably be something like 0-4 or 0-5.

It sucks going 0-5. You lose all 4 of your bot fights for the week and you also lose at life.
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Nov 24 2015, 12:29 PM
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Rob Collins
Jul 7 2013, 04:08 PM
How the hell do I make a 3D creation of my robot!?
tinkercad.com is really easy to use. Drag a square, select color and size, then drag another shape.
Rob hasn't been around the boards for a couple years, but this is still useful as general advice.
well, then time for me to shamelessly plug sketch-up!
‽ ROBOTICS (180 - 88 lifetime)

Ruination 4
Nick's Fuzzy Rules: 7-1
Glitch: 5-3
Hazardous Waste Removal: 6-2
Khnum: 4-4


ROBOT2
Hat Garage: 0-0
Lilian: 0-0
Blue Max: 0-0
Neuromancer: 0-0

"giant fucking dinosaur" is in my top 5 picks to win the nut ~V900
So you're saying no arenas that fill the driver booths with powerful hallucinogenic gas that argle bargle THE ENEMY'S GATE IS SIDEWAYS ~ Rocket III
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MadBull
Nov 24 2015, 11:35 AM
Texas does raise a fair point though. You want your walker to be powered by a rotational engine. That is not "cheating" by any sense of the imagination, as long as the final contact with the floor is a true walking motion. TRUE walkers in Battlebots and Robot Wars still use electric engines. The whole intention of the "no 360 degrees walking motion" was BASICALLY meant to ban shufflers, robots that basically use, well, square wheels, so that they suddenly seem to be hopping around rather than driving so that it vaguely resembles walking. THAT is cheating your way towards a walking mechanism, and THAT is what should be exempt from the mass bonus.

But yeah, with poor wording the rule has now, walkers are technically not allowed to use a normal engine, that really can't be right.
Yup although I dont think it'll matter anymore since the walker bonus points has kinda overstayed its welcome.
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So I'm thinking of changing the stats for Compound Fracture from:

Speed 7, Torque 5, Traction 4, Weapon 3, Armor 11 (+1 wedge, -2 everywhere else).

To:

Speed 7, Torque 3, Traction 5, Weapon 5, Armor 10

Am I correct that with a weapon power of 5, the lifter would have a weapon armor of 12? Also, is it better to have the high traction and lower torque than something like 4 torque, 4 traction?
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traction is, imo far more important than torque. if you have more than 2 more speed than you have traction, you begin to face issues with turning and general control (see: Brute Force in R:TC right now). which is fine if you want to be like Vladiator and are prepared to RP that way, but not necessarily as good for a brick made to control the match.

and yeah, 5 weapon would give your lifter the armor bonus
‽ ROBOTICS (180 - 88 lifetime)

Ruination 4
Nick's Fuzzy Rules: 7-1
Glitch: 5-3
Hazardous Waste Removal: 6-2
Khnum: 4-4


ROBOT2
Hat Garage: 0-0
Lilian: 0-0
Blue Max: 0-0
Neuromancer: 0-0

"giant fucking dinosaur" is in my top 5 picks to win the nut ~V900
So you're saying no arenas that fill the driver booths with powerful hallucinogenic gas that argle bargle THE ENEMY'S GATE IS SIDEWAYS ~ Rocket III
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i have 6 loses to my name and only 1 win and i only won because the other person was dsq

how do i improve my rp skills?


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well, there are 2 aspects to this game, the robot designs, and the RP's, do well in both, and you'll be victorious!

As to how to improve your RP's, for starters, by RP'ing regularly. Practice makes perfect. You'll better learn what works and what doesn't work that way. I can't help you much with that aspect, that's entirely up to you.

Make sure you know the rules relevant to the tournament you are in, I often have them opened and easily accessible when I am RP'ing. Then, apply those rules to the battle at hand. Can you outspeed? Can you outpush? Can you damage him here? Can you damage him there? You'll find that there aspects where you are superior, and that there are aspects where your opponent is superior. In a fairly balanced system where everyone gets the same amount of stat points, there's ALWAYS something you do better than your opponent. Use that. There is also ALWAYS something your opponent does better. Look for ways to defend against that.

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