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Ruination: The Omen - Discussion
Topic Started: May 24 2013, 05:05 PM (22,989 Views)
Siphai
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MadBull
Jul 26 2013, 03:04 PM
Siphai
Jul 26 2013, 08:42 PM
wouldn't something with zero traction literally not be able to accelerate

Hasnt it always been such that a traction STAT of 0 did not equal "omg no traction whatsoever!"? Otherwise indeed the many omni wheeled bots that have been entered over the years would not have moved at all.

I always though 0 meant nothing.
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Siphai
Jul 26 2013, 10:58 PM
MadBull
Jul 26 2013, 03:04 PM
Siphai
Jul 26 2013, 08:42 PM
wouldn't something with zero traction literally not be able to accelerate

Hasnt it always been such that a traction STAT of 0 did not equal "omg no traction whatsoever!"? Otherwise indeed the many omni wheeled bots that have been entered over the years would not have moved at all.

I always though 0 meant nothing.

that doesnt answer my question :P

If we get into significant figures 0 means all numbers between -0.5 and 0.5. ARC statistics use a discrete distribution and hence has 0 as the lowest possible value. Assuming for a second no ARC statistic is expected to go below 0, in this case 0 might well mean "very very little".

Furthermore... there have been 0 traction bots for yeaaaaaaaaaars, and they have always been able to accelerate, do you really wanna discuss the rule (fine by me) or did you just feel like getting technical?:P

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MadBull
Jul 26 2013, 07:10 PM
Siphai
Jul 26 2013, 10:58 PM
MadBull
Jul 26 2013, 03:04 PM
Siphai
Jul 26 2013, 08:42 PM
wouldn't something with zero traction literally not be able to accelerate

Hasnt it always been such that a traction STAT of 0 did not equal "omg no traction whatsoever!"? Otherwise indeed the many omni wheeled bots that have been entered over the years would not have moved at all.

I always though 0 meant nothing.

that doesnt answer my question :P

If we get into significant figures 0 means all numbers between -0.5 and 0.5. ARC statistics use a discrete distribution and hence has 0 as the lowest possible value. Assuming for a second no ARC statistic is expected to go below 0, in this case 0 might well mean "very very little".

Furthermore... there have been 0 traction bots for yeaaaaaaaaaars, and they have always been able to accelerate, do you really wanna discuss the rule (fine by me) or did you just feel like getting technical?:P

If 0 did mean "very very little" then Dr. Pepperdine would be able to get under the sides of his opponents where they had 0 wedge and high ground clearance. Instead I was informed that 0 wedge means nothing; no wedge. "You cant do anything with nothing". Traction should work the same way.
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I hate you. :D

The zero traction rule was set up years ago and was generally agreed to by the forum at large, including people that actually understood exactly how omni-drive works. There's absolutely no need to change it when it has worked perfectly fine. Omni-drive bots get no traction unless they also feature regular drive wheels (Like Sidewinder did for example). It's a fair trade-off for the fact they can maneuver around pretty much however they want. Things don't have to be 100% accurate to real life after all.
Area51Escapee,Jan 30 2011
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Spatula,Jan 29 2011
11:32 PM
I should go 3-1 this week but it'll probably be something like 0-4 or 0-5.

It sucks going 0-5. You lose all 4 of your bot fights for the week and you also lose at life.
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Jul 26 2013, 08:56 PM
I hate you. :D

The zero traction rule was set up years ago and was generally agreed to by the forum at large, including people that actually understood exactly how omni-drive works. There's absolutely no need to change it when it has worked perfectly fine. Omni-drive bots get no traction unless they also feature regular drive wheels (Like Sidewinder did for example). It's a fair trade-off for the fact they can maneuver around pretty much however they want. Things don't have to be 100% accurate to real life after all.

lol I'm sorry for being a dick about this. Its been years since I've been in the game so I'm still trying to get my head around the rules again. I will say at least the old 4 stat system was simple.
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... the zero traction rule was very much there back in the days of 4 stats :D
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Jul 27 2013, 05:35 AM
... the zero traction rule was very much there back in the days of 4 stats :D

Like I said, it's been like two years since I played. :P
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Rrrgh... I am now thinking of replacing Cutie Honey II with a bar spinner. One, because Honey was both an experiment, and a result of me being fed up with the 7 wedge bots that were going around (hypocrite, you cry) at the time, and somehow she succeeded in ways I never thought possible. Let's face it; entering her again is just begging to have the writers get her ass kicked.

Two: because I have too many damn flippers on the team already.

Third: I've had a bar spinner on my mind for a little while now. I just wasn't sure what class to put it in.

Of course, this deprives Josh and Lian of the chances to taunt me about that "tape" that never happened... :P

Pending name for the new HW: Murder Bar.

EDIT: Well, by the sound of it, Spatch wants me to keep Cutie Honey in. :unsure:
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playzooki
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Jul 18 2013, 12:08 PM
Aye. Perhaps I'll discuss with him and see if I can persuade him- it'd be nice if we could have some more contenders sticking around here, bring the community back to its former glory.


Still, whatever the reason may be, I know I'll definitely be entering. In the pursuit of a good fight, there's nothing can keep me down. :P

Go on then.
Wheres this discussion about me entering again? Right now i probably wont enter.
March or Die - Ruination: The Omen MW Last Eight, Ruination: The Omen Tag Team Champion (with the Green Hornet / NWOWWE), Ruination: The Contagion MW CHAMPION
Corrupt Politician - Reign of Steel SHW Finalist
Murder Is Fun! - Reign of Steel HW Semi-Finalist
Shrek - Hammerfall 4th Place

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I'm starting to regret entering.
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why not?:(
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playzooki
Jul 29 2013, 06:05 AM
Go on then.
Wheres this discussion about me entering again? Right now i probably wont enter.

Well you've already entered. It's just a matter of you RPing for your matches when the time comes. Can't force you to do that.
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playzooki
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Cough delete button cough
March or Die - Ruination: The Omen MW Last Eight, Ruination: The Omen Tag Team Champion (with the Green Hornet / NWOWWE), Ruination: The Contagion MW CHAMPION
Corrupt Politician - Reign of Steel SHW Finalist
Murder Is Fun! - Reign of Steel HW Semi-Finalist
Shrek - Hammerfall 4th Place

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I'm starting to regret entering.
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playzooki
Jul 29 2013, 08:49 AM
Cough delete button cough

then why would you even post there in the first place :v:
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I was originally going to enter
March or Die - Ruination: The Omen MW Last Eight, Ruination: The Omen Tag Team Champion (with the Green Hornet / NWOWWE), Ruination: The Contagion MW CHAMPION
Corrupt Politician - Reign of Steel SHW Finalist
Murder Is Fun! - Reign of Steel HW Semi-Finalist
Shrek - Hammerfall 4th Place

GF93
 
I'm starting to regret entering.
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playzooki
Jul 29 2013, 08:59 AM
I was originally going to enter

wtf... why the hell would you change your mind? :huh:
Area51Escapee,Jan 30 2011
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Spatula,Jan 29 2011
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I should go 3-1 this week but it'll probably be something like 0-4 or 0-5.

It sucks going 0-5. You lose all 4 of your bot fights for the week and you also lose at life.
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Multiple reasons。
March or Die - Ruination: The Omen MW Last Eight, Ruination: The Omen Tag Team Champion (with the Green Hornet / NWOWWE), Ruination: The Contagion MW CHAMPION
Corrupt Politician - Reign of Steel SHW Finalist
Murder Is Fun! - Reign of Steel HW Semi-Finalist
Shrek - Hammerfall 4th Place

GF93
 
I'm starting to regret entering.
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stats are now in
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