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| GF93 | Mar 27 2013, 01:47 PM Post #81 |
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Vi veri veniversum vivus vici.
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That's one way of looking at it- however, enough is enough. I'll enter Black Mamba as my SHW, and Conqueror as my LW- both with an emphasis on Wheelpower and Armour. |
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Ice Cubed Robotics "I will not die until I achieve something. Even though the ideal is high, I never give in. Therefore, I never die with regrets." Cherry Bomb Classic: Season 2 (8-0) Swiftsure- 2-0 Torque Dirty 2 Me- 2-0 Ayame- 1-0 Dead on Arrival- 1-0 Barley Picker- 1-0 Lethal Injection 3- 1-0 Robot Bastards 2 (5-5) Apathy & Lethargy- 2-1 Trump ex Machina- 0-3 Rainbow in the Dark- 3-1 (6-3) Ruination: The Upheaval (20-8) Ayame- 6-1 Marauder- 6-1 Dreadnought Mk3- 3-4 Lethal Injection 3- 5-2 ALL-TIME RECORD Wins: 347 Losses: 230
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| BEES | Mar 27 2013, 01:50 PM Post #82 |
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I've never lived by anyone's rules but my own.
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Excellent! LW will be up tonight! Feel free to speculate amongst yourselves. |
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| NWOWWE | Mar 27 2013, 01:53 PM Post #83 |
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Team Blood Gulch Motto
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Harbinger gets clownstomped. |
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| That Kode Guy | Mar 27 2013, 01:55 PM Post #84 |
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Ruiner of All
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all my bots are either last or mid-to-below average |
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| BEES | Mar 27 2013, 01:57 PM Post #85 |
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I've never lived by anyone's rules but my own.
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Hmm... tempted to make a Clown Breath award. |
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| That Kode Guy | Mar 27 2013, 01:59 PM Post #86 |
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Ruiner of All
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Only Josh can win it. |
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| GF93 | Mar 27 2013, 01:59 PM Post #87 |
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Vi veri veniversum vivus vici.
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Mid-to-decent in the rankings, hopefully. It'll definitely be good if I can reduce at least one of the HWs to metallic Swiss Cheese with Discord's axe, though.
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Ice Cubed Robotics "I will not die until I achieve something. Even though the ideal is high, I never give in. Therefore, I never die with regrets." Cherry Bomb Classic: Season 2 (8-0) Swiftsure- 2-0 Torque Dirty 2 Me- 2-0 Ayame- 1-0 Dead on Arrival- 1-0 Barley Picker- 1-0 Lethal Injection 3- 1-0 Robot Bastards 2 (5-5) Apathy & Lethargy- 2-1 Trump ex Machina- 0-3 Rainbow in the Dark- 3-1 (6-3) Ruination: The Upheaval (20-8) Ayame- 6-1 Marauder- 6-1 Dreadnought Mk3- 3-4 Lethal Injection 3- 5-2 ALL-TIME RECORD Wins: 347 Losses: 230
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| BEES | Mar 27 2013, 01:59 PM Post #88 |
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I've never lived by anyone's rules but my own.
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I think this is appropriate. |
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| GF93 | Mar 27 2013, 02:24 PM Post #89 |
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Vi veri veniversum vivus vici.
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Plus, I aim to win the Autism Award. Feel the terror...OF READING! |
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Ice Cubed Robotics "I will not die until I achieve something. Even though the ideal is high, I never give in. Therefore, I never die with regrets." Cherry Bomb Classic: Season 2 (8-0) Swiftsure- 2-0 Torque Dirty 2 Me- 2-0 Ayame- 1-0 Dead on Arrival- 1-0 Barley Picker- 1-0 Lethal Injection 3- 1-0 Robot Bastards 2 (5-5) Apathy & Lethargy- 2-1 Trump ex Machina- 0-3 Rainbow in the Dark- 3-1 (6-3) Ruination: The Upheaval (20-8) Ayame- 6-1 Marauder- 6-1 Dreadnought Mk3- 3-4 Lethal Injection 3- 5-2 ALL-TIME RECORD Wins: 347 Losses: 230
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| prince palatine | Mar 27 2013, 02:40 PM Post #90 |
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Narumeia Waifu Trash!
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I read books on a regular basis, so I'm not scared of reading. |
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Team Ectogasm Honours Robot Attack LW Runner Up (With The Servant's Assistant) FRR: Dead Zone LW Runner Up (With The Servant's Assistant) Ruination: The Beginning joint third place (With The Servant's Assistant, Camo Alert and Hammer & Nailz) Crazy Bots Blazing Ruin: MW Runner Up (Merry Hampton BR) and SHW CHAMPION!!! (F-Dynasty) League of Robotic Excellence: MW 3rd place (Terminus) and LW CHAMPION!!! (The Servant's Assistant 3) Ruination: The Omen: MW joint 3rd place (Merry Hampton BR) SHW joint 3rd place (Curse Of The Deep 2) and HW CHAMPION!!! (Klarinette) | |
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| NFX | Mar 27 2013, 03:22 PM Post #91 |
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Fuck Bitches Get Crystals
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This should be a pretty cool tournament. It's more about just fun than actually RPing and such, this might work well. |
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Team Mongoose (358-215) "The Colour of Awesome" Braveheart / Crash Blossom / Depth Charge / Broken Ghost / Murder Death Unit / Agent X RoBattle Override - 13 pts MiDAS - 12 pts it was a gigantic masturbation of polygons :v - That Kode Guy | |
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| GF93 | Mar 27 2013, 04:55 PM Post #92 |
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Vi veri veniversum vivus vici.
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Yes, it should be pretty good. Also, Nick- I really don't want to come off as an impatient shortarse for asking again after such a short period of time, and I apologise for doing so in advance, but are you having any luck with the CADs for my new robots? Just wondering, that's all. |
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Ice Cubed Robotics "I will not die until I achieve something. Even though the ideal is high, I never give in. Therefore, I never die with regrets." Cherry Bomb Classic: Season 2 (8-0) Swiftsure- 2-0 Torque Dirty 2 Me- 2-0 Ayame- 1-0 Dead on Arrival- 1-0 Barley Picker- 1-0 Lethal Injection 3- 1-0 Robot Bastards 2 (5-5) Apathy & Lethargy- 2-1 Trump ex Machina- 0-3 Rainbow in the Dark- 3-1 (6-3) Ruination: The Upheaval (20-8) Ayame- 6-1 Marauder- 6-1 Dreadnought Mk3- 3-4 Lethal Injection 3- 5-2 ALL-TIME RECORD Wins: 347 Losses: 230
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| NFX | Mar 27 2013, 05:40 PM Post #93 |
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Fuck Bitches Get Crystals
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Not much luck, I'm afraid, there's been a fair amount more I've had to do this week than is usual, but I'm getting two weeks off for Easter after the weekend, so I'm hoping I'm able to get some done then, provided my girlfriend leaves me alone sufficiently to get everything else done. |
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Team Mongoose (358-215) "The Colour of Awesome" Braveheart / Crash Blossom / Depth Charge / Broken Ghost / Murder Death Unit / Agent X RoBattle Override - 13 pts MiDAS - 12 pts it was a gigantic masturbation of polygons :v - That Kode Guy | |
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| BEES | Mar 28 2013, 01:31 AM Post #94 |
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I've never lived by anyone's rules but my own.
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Well it's taking longer than expected. I have to reconsider a few fights, but generally I know how they'll all turn out for the LWs. There are a couple tossups that I'm debating though, and I'm going to sleep on it and post everything tomorrow (aka later today) when I've decided. Remember just because things go to hell this round doesn't mean they'll be bad next round! Could be completely the opposite. |
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| GF93 | Mar 28 2013, 06:47 AM Post #95 |
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Vi veri veniversum vivus vici.
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No worries Nick, I understand- I know that feeling with College work and all. I'm very much looking forward to seeing them once they're finished, though- considering how well you've rendered my previous designs, they should be quite spectacular.
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Ice Cubed Robotics "I will not die until I achieve something. Even though the ideal is high, I never give in. Therefore, I never die with regrets." Cherry Bomb Classic: Season 2 (8-0) Swiftsure- 2-0 Torque Dirty 2 Me- 2-0 Ayame- 1-0 Dead on Arrival- 1-0 Barley Picker- 1-0 Lethal Injection 3- 1-0 Robot Bastards 2 (5-5) Apathy & Lethargy- 2-1 Trump ex Machina- 0-3 Rainbow in the Dark- 3-1 (6-3) Ruination: The Upheaval (20-8) Ayame- 6-1 Marauder- 6-1 Dreadnought Mk3- 3-4 Lethal Injection 3- 5-2 ALL-TIME RECORD Wins: 347 Losses: 230
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| NWOWWE | Mar 28 2013, 07:25 AM Post #96 |
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Team Blood Gulch Motto
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Things going to hell? That's a comforting thought.
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| GF93 | Mar 28 2013, 08:46 AM Post #97 |
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Vi veri veniversum vivus vici.
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Come to think of it, I'd like to change Discord's emphasises to it being a Jack of all trades. It's not a problem of course if I can't, but is it or is it not too late for me to do so? |
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Ice Cubed Robotics "I will not die until I achieve something. Even though the ideal is high, I never give in. Therefore, I never die with regrets." Cherry Bomb Classic: Season 2 (8-0) Swiftsure- 2-0 Torque Dirty 2 Me- 2-0 Ayame- 1-0 Dead on Arrival- 1-0 Barley Picker- 1-0 Lethal Injection 3- 1-0 Robot Bastards 2 (5-5) Apathy & Lethargy- 2-1 Trump ex Machina- 0-3 Rainbow in the Dark- 3-1 (6-3) Ruination: The Upheaval (20-8) Ayame- 6-1 Marauder- 6-1 Dreadnought Mk3- 3-4 Lethal Injection 3- 5-2 ALL-TIME RECORD Wins: 347 Losses: 230
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| BEES | Mar 29 2013, 10:58 PM Post #98 |
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I've never lived by anyone's rules but my own.
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Discord's change has been noted. LW's are up, tables are on the first page. Harbinger vs Pyrite Battle of the thwackbots would be perhaps the most fun match in this weight class. Lots of driving tactics from these fast two-wheelers would be on display. Harbinger has a small edge because it is simply more versatile--the front wedge could be used to push Pyrite, or carry it around by its axe. It's not a one-sided match though, and Pyrite could definitely fight back, probably hitting a little harder if it went into a full spin. I don't see either bot knocking the other out though. They would trade blows, and when the dust clears, maybe 45% of the time, Pyrite would have given its flashier opponent more time on the hazards or gotten in a few better hits, while 55% of the time Harbinger just stays in control more with its extra attacking options. 55/45 Harbinger Pyrite vs Kite Pyrite's spinning attack will be a pain for Kite to deal with, but I think a slight majority of the time the flipper will prevail. Pinning this thing down will be difficult, if Kite gets in and gets a flip, Pyrite can just spin back up again--being completely invertible and very slippery. There will be some approaches where Kite gets deflected and gains nothing on the judge's scorecards, along with taking some nice dents in the front armor potentially. The remainder of the time though Pyrite will be bossed around, flipped mercilessly once Kite gets inside and stops it from spinning. Kite could probably just get in and push and win the shoving match, and probably stay in control--keeping Pyrite from spinning for longer, but Pyrite has no defense to prevent getting flipped so why not just flip it, right? 55/45 Kite Harbinger vs Kite Harbinger vs Kite eh? Hmm... Harbinger has similarities to Pyrite, but it can function as a rammer with its front wedge, it can spin both ways, it can use its spike as a javelin. It's more versatile in ways that matter significantly for this matchup. That makes up the difference and makes this nearly a dead heat on my scorecard. The same issues with Pyrite appear--Kite taking damage, failing on some approaches, but still finding many openings to get in and flip, just bossing the thwacker around. But offensively the options the two robots have against each other are dynamically equal. 50/50 Pyrrha vs Kite Difficult to call; both could potentially get under the other if they apply pressure to their lifting mechanism. Pyrrha has added defense on all sides, so I think it would control the match for the first minute or so, behind harder to pin down. (Both robots opted for speed, so Kite would have to drive more carefully against its equally maneuverable opponent). I'm giving this to Kite though, because I'm not seeing a feasible way for Pyrrha to self-right once inverted (aside from being flipped again by Kite). It presumably works upside-down but the side wedges won't, and then it'll be at some amount of a disadvantage for the rest of the fight. However, if this fight were carried out enough times, I do think Pyrrha would still come out on top in more than a third of the outcomes, just due to its better defense. 60/40 Pyrrha Pyrrha vs Pyrite Similar to Kite vs Pyrite in some ways. The flat edges on Pyrrha are more likely to get caught by Pyrite's spinning attack, but it still has good defense against this type of thwacker. I would expect Pyrrha to back into Pyrite on the initial approach, and I don't see too much that can be done about this. The shape of Pyrrha is more conducive to holding Pyrite--keeping its wheels off the floor and therefore helpless, and parading it around, whereas Kite's flipping it didn't do so much since it's completely invertible and just starts spinning up again. Against a bot that's wedged on all sides with strong armor the thwacker will seem utterly useless. Like Overkill vs Biohazard it's just not there. 70/30 Pyrrha Pyrrha vs Harbinger Sadly, I don't see Harbinger faring much better than Pyrite in this matchup. The Overkill/Biohazard mechanics are in place yet again, and there isn't much a thwackbot can do to a 4-sided wedge. The front wedge would be useless as all of the wedges on Pyrrha could come spring-loaded while the Thwacker's wedge really cannot be, without interfering with the way the robot is designed to spin around. I made this slightly less unbalanced as perhaps it could attack the front of Pyrrha directly and try to push its wedgy foe around by jamming the spike into the central grap somehow, but Pyrite could also do that so... I don't know. Really I'm not sure how this would be any less one-sided, but on the offchance the front wedge gets under 1 the skirts out of 10 tries, then that goes into the statistic. 65/35 Pyrrha Conqueror vs Pyrrha Both of them could probably get under the other. How do you judge such a match? First: who has the stronger front? Whichever robot comes out better when the two meet head-to-head tends to give them some advantage; it means they have less driving to do. I think Pyrrha's fork would trump Conqueror's cheese cutter, so that would give Pyrrha a slight plus (as it is a short fork and easier to avoid than if its advantage covered the whole front side). Second: If one gets under the other, what can they do with that? Conqueror can flip Pyrrha, putting it on its back, where I don't think it would be very happy with its wedges pointing the wrong way uselessly. I am skeptical of Pyrrha's ability to self-right due to the length of the lifter relative to the size of the rear wedge skirt. I don't think it's happening without some modifications. If Pyrrha got under Conqueror and flipped it? It seems much more believable that a Firestorm-style lifter could get right back over easily. I think these two aspects cancel each other out pretty much and we get a relatively 50-50 match. Kite vs Conqueror I think the two bots are fairly evenly matched. Kite merely has the advantage of doing more spectacular flips on Conqueror than vice versa--although Conqueror would spend its fair share of time parading Kite around and staying in control. The self-righting issue makes the biggest difference, I think. With a slow lifter instead of a full flipper, Conqueror spends a bit more time getting pushed around on its back before it can self-right. A nailbiter though. 55/45 Kite Harbinger vs Conqueror Ah, Toe Crusher vs Wedge of Doom sort of match, but I think a few small things tip the balance into the thwacker's favor slightly. First, unlike WoD, Conqueror cannot back up if it's tipped slightly on end as its wheels would be obstructed by the chassis. So if Harbinger got to the side, it could parade its foe around. On top of that, Harbinger is invertible and slippery, and any pushes or flips that Conqueror lands will be fleeting. It won't have utter dominance over the fight, but I do think its front wins in a head-to-head exchange unless Harbinger is spinning at top speed. The tactical tools available to Harbinger ever-so-slightly outweigh the stronger front in this case. Harbinger 55/45 Conqueror vs Pyrite Without anything except its spinning attack to rely on, Pyrite lands a few smacks but its sturdy opponent will bulldoze it the entire time. Bad Attitude vs Spaz basically (I'm well aware Spaz won on a technicality, but let's assume this is a non-shitty arena without a spikestrip for wedges to get stuck on in the last 30 seconds of the match). 65/35 Conqueror Frequency vs Pyrrha Pyrrha is a sturdy looking piece of machinery, and I think under a stat-based tourney it might have a good chance against spinners like Frequency. But in Nick-land, the skirts are problems--particularly with so many exposed corners that the lawnmower blades could catch on to, this type of robot will have difficulty approaching. Let's suppose it backs in to present the most armored side, then what? Can it guarantee that its skirts will even get under Frequency's own skirts? Presumably these are heavier and better weighted, but while they're being scraped by the weapon their leveraging properties might be temporarily diminished when they make contact with Frequency's skirts. So this is a tricky fight. I would have Pyrrha getting in and potentially flipping Frequency a minority of times, but the majority of the time, I see the hinged wedges getting torn off, and Frequency getting some critical hits to the central lifting assembly on the front that might cripple this bot (despite the preference towards armor). 60/40 Frequency Kite vs Frequency Kite was doing well until it got here, but it doesn't have sufficient defense to deal with a spinner like Frequency. There is a chance of a T-minus/Hazard like upset. The wedges on Frequency are designed not to interfere with the bar, but nonetheless it is not invertible and if flipped, I seriously question its ability to self-right with those wedges interfering. For the majority of occasions however, Frequency would easily dismantle the front armor, disable the weapon, and likely knock Kite out. 65/35 Frequency Frequency vs Harbinger I am probably being generous making this matchup any less horrible than it would be for Pyrite, but my thinking is well… with wedges on it maybe it could ~try~ getting under. I'm not optimistic about this. The exposed wheels (albeit durable ones that would take quite a few hits before quitting), and the lack of an anti-spinner blade make this thwackbot's chances uphill in this matchup. Toe Crusher vs Ziggo - 1999 is the likely outcome. I have the win ratio a bit closer though as I think the long arm on Harbinger could be instrumental. 60/40 Frequency Frequency vs Pyrite Similar to the Harbinger matchup against Frequency, as they're both horizontal spinning thwackbots. To be fair, both robots have some chances against the champ--they could give it a decent smacking on the first approach. The problem comes later on--how much damage could they take and keep working? The wheels are exposed, and while they are durable, it is not a question of will they stop working, it is a question of when will they stop working. 5-6 hits maybe? Neither bot is really designed to knock out spinners though it is possible that if they just drove headlong into the lawnmower blade, the shaft on their axes could absorb the damage and slow the blade down. I'm not sure what Pyrite could do after that though. It can't push around a bot that's wedged on all sides. It has to start spinning again--and by the time it's up to speed wouldn't Frequency be able to just drive away, spin up, and come back? A very one-sided match, but I'll keep it 70/30 since the thwackbot could still do some damage with its hits, maybe. Ah... poor Pyrite leaves with no good matches. and finally... to top of Frequency's rampage: Frequency vs Conqueror Conqueror is the only robot I have with an advantage against Frequency, and the reason for this is its apparent sturdiness. It looks, at least from the picture, pretty rock-solid and it could potentially get under and flip Frequency over. I think this potential is ~greater~ than with Pyrrha or Kite for a variety of reasons. 1) Pyrrha had wedge skirts that broke off easily at the corners, hindering its durability against such a spinner. Conqueror has what appears to be a solid wedge with a flatter incline, with the robot's weight resting right on it. So getting under Frequency's skirts could be easier for it. 2) Kite had poor armor in general and its sides were big targets. Conqueror puts a bit more priority on tough armor, but the sides are also smaller targets and the front wedge is huge. There are some other fundamental factors here: The lifting setup seems more conducive for flipping than Pyrrha's. The gradual incline of the wedge should protect the internals more than the abrupt front on Kite. In general, I think this is the closest thing to a counter towards the robot that otherwise dominates the weight class. 60/40 Conqueror |
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| That Kode Guy | Mar 29 2013, 11:40 PM Post #99 |
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Ruiner of All
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Ah, just as I'd predicted. Average. Of course. I'm really good at this prediction lark, aren't I? |
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| GF93 | Mar 30 2013, 08:09 AM Post #100 |
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Vi veri veniversum vivus vici.
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Second Place in the LW Division and beating the overall Winner along the way- that's definitely pretty good, so I'm happy with that.
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Ice Cubed Robotics "I will not die until I achieve something. Even though the ideal is high, I never give in. Therefore, I never die with regrets." Cherry Bomb Classic: Season 2 (8-0) Swiftsure- 2-0 Torque Dirty 2 Me- 2-0 Ayame- 1-0 Dead on Arrival- 1-0 Barley Picker- 1-0 Lethal Injection 3- 1-0 Robot Bastards 2 (5-5) Apathy & Lethargy- 2-1 Trump ex Machina- 0-3 Rainbow in the Dark- 3-1 (6-3) Ruination: The Upheaval (20-8) Ayame- 6-1 Marauder- 6-1 Dreadnought Mk3- 3-4 Lethal Injection 3- 5-2 ALL-TIME RECORD Wins: 347 Losses: 230
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