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League of Robotic Excellence Season 2: Pre-Season Predictions
Topic Started: Mar 20 2015, 10:33 AM (643 Views)
playzooki
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having a 6 point weapon armor disparity is like a spinner having a 7 point weapon armor disparity. Idk, melty thwacks already have it hard enough.

[18/03/2015 20:11:53] Playzööki: what does the internal self damage rule for robots with 6 speed over their armour do to thwackbots
[18/03/2015 20:12:16] Playzööki: "6 – The weapon will do some internal damage to its own supports and will cease to work after 5 hits. However the rest of the robot will continue to function. No self-KO chance."
[18/03/2015 20:14:25] Badnik96: i guess it'd just be the no self ko chance idk
[18/03/2015 20:15:20] Playzööki: ok thanks
[18/03/2015 20:16:19] Badnik96: ask nick, he's the one who wrote the ruleset i'm using

[18/03/2015 20:17:59] Playzööki: nick
[18/03/2015 20:18:01] Playzööki: [18 March 2015 20:11] Playzööki:

<<< what does the internal self damage rule for robots with 6 speed over their armour do to thwackbots
"6 – The weapon will do some internal damage to its own supports and will cease to work after 5 hits. However the rest of the robot will continue to function. No self-KO chance."
[18/03/2015 20:27:10] Spatunick: Thwack bots get some kind of weapon bonus... haven't really thought about it
[18/03/2015 20:27:53] Spatunick: We could make it 2 points for internal armor? That seems reasonable


thats the answer i got
March or Die - Ruination: The Omen MW Last Eight, Ruination: The Omen Tag Team Champion (with the Green Hornet / NWOWWE), Ruination: The Contagion MW CHAMPION
Corrupt Politician - Reign of Steel SHW Finalist
Murder Is Fun! - Reign of Steel HW Semi-Finalist
Shrek - Hammerfall 4th Place

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Okay good lol.
Team Targeted - (36-12) Robot Bastards

Dr. P: 4-8
Square Wave: 11-1
Snijmachine: 10-2
Parabolic Trajectory: 11-1
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Nanael
This robot looks awesome! It reminds me of something....

Zadkiel 2
Lian's power spinner has improved, and I would now consider it among the 1st tier bots.

Microwave
I feel like I've made just the changes it needed to keep it relevant. Self-righting is dodgy, but it's the only thing that's dodgy on this otherwise airtight mobile fortress.

Conqueror II
Another vet that's improved a bit. Conqueror looks like Chaos 2 as if it'd been modernized and kept up to date.

Dead
If we ignore the looks department, it's almost the same as Zadkiel. The difference that makes me put this lower is the rear wedge is static on this one, but for many matches that will not matter.

Le-Mans
Armor is the main issue here. Otherwise, a totally sensible Ziggy-style flipper with surprisingly good matchups against a few 1st tier teams' entrants, in my opinion. I think it could feasibly sneak into the playoffs.

Anti Virus
This bot gives me vibes of Dr P from RB. It's a rammer but the wedge doesn't quite seem to fully protect the wheels from spinners and the wheels are a bit exposed. Still a totally sound bot with chances.

Anti-Body
It's a rather generic thwack. It may have enough versatility to get a positive W/L but to me, it doesn't look striking in any particular area.

Shade Fist
Scarab's poor cousin. The shape of the supports for the drum looks problematic against spinners. This is the last bot that still might prove to be competitive.

Scatterbrain
I think a melty thwack can totally work, I just don't think this is the way to do it, because if it gets pinned or into a grappling sitation it's weaponless. Something like Blade Runner that can also fight without spinning, but with these stats (which are good stat choices), IMO. The whole three-sided thing just seems to limit its versatility.

Final Punishment
It looks like every wedge in the competition will get under, and it's not strong enough to do damage. So what will it do?

Mr. D
Well, the charity is appreciated Martijn. :qq:




MW

Mimete
All around improvement here. Square Wave with Voltronic spikes on the plow. I have trouble finding fault with it.

Pterodactyl
Imagine if I took ABR and gave it a flipper as well. That is what Pterodactyl is now. Even looking at it through the most critical lens, I have trouble seeing it come up worse than top 3.

Bulletproof Bomb
Another solid flipper from Alex V, who I think put a good spit-shine on his designs across the board basically, although strategically I question entering four similar types of robot in a season. C'mon, you couldn't mix it up even a little bit?

March or Die 4
Seems decent enough. Simple but elegant. I think you will make the playoffs this time and break the streak, Playzooki.

BRVR
I am a bit skeptical it can turn well with just the two dinky wheels so close together and so far away from the weapon. This is a pretty angular undercutter design from Mystic though. I really like the whole back wedge thing it's doing. It could actually prove to be quite competitive. A potential dark horse.

Depth Charge
It's also a decent looking clamshell flipper. The steeper wedge might get less leverage than March or Die, so I'll bump it down a notch, but maybe that won't matter. Conversely, its wheels should work from more angles so it's better at grappling, and better against spinners. Similar, I guess.

Merry Hampton
Seconding Alex MW's question, isn't it a bit overly anti-spinner when there isn't much opposition from spinners? I think I liked the FRR Hampton a bit more. Still, pretty solid.

Latvian Gambit
Love the name. It is an interesting bot. I'm not sure there are many opponents it could really pick up though, with that shape.

Toe Chipper
Sort of an Ankle-Biter looking bot. I think it's better than Fidchell, who I felt had overly centralized stats in the Omen, but I guess I need to see it prove itself against bricks before I can rate it any more confidently.

Harbinger
Much like Anti-Body, I feel like this is a jack of all trades. It's not quite powerful enough, not quite good enough as a wedge, not quite armored enough, and it's only weakly invertible. I think melty thwacks will need to be a little more committal and daring with their stats to become relevant again in the future.

Tesla's Revenge
This type of bot is really cool, and now that I'm reminded of it I want to try my hand at one! I think I would've made different stat choices. 11 is a lot of points to commit to a weapon that will do at best minimal damage. An axe would've gotten corner damage, for instance. There really is no halfway with spinners. Go big or go home.

Pikabot
Nothing really wrong with it. I think everyone else just has a little bit of brokenness that this lacks. Also, there's not really any reason to do 6 point lifters. 5 will lift just fine, get the armor bonus, and saves a point for speed or something.


HW

Snijmachine
Now with motors apparently. Alex tightened up the design, makes it more of a hybrid than a true steveout and hopes to shake the sloppy seconds curse. Good luck doing that with an undercutter in HW man! You're not the first that's tried! :v: Deep down in my soul, I believe in this idea though.

Stormbringer
I think this is close to ideal for a drum, or any type of vertical spinner. Nice and low, ought to be able to fight a good range of different types of opponents competently. The last-minute stat changes from NFX bumped it up a lot for me.

Klarinette 3.5
I see Lian's dispensed with the superfluous elements and doubled down on what made Klarinette the champ. Should be another great season, but everyone's gunning for this bot now that he's won twice with it.

Terminal Velocity
Yet another very solid and principled flipper. Doesn't score high in the creativity index, but that won't stop it from being a tough little shit. However, with the flipper taking up so much of the robot, won't that disqualify it from the weapon-armor bonus?

Cutie Honey
Also a decent flipper. Should do well and annoy everyone again. However, unlike TV, it looks more susceptible to corner damage.

Gamma Ray
So... yeah. Either it's brilliant and really tough to fight and will win out or it's an overengineered piece of garbage, in which case business as usual for me! :D Basically I have no idea.

Meta Ridley
Josh's recent HW spinner is back, and still looking cool. I like the maneuverability and the clever way that it's invertible.

Coldforge
It's a shell spinner which will do shell spinner things.

Rocket Knight
Love that game! Oh man now I've gotto go play it again. Actually this is quite solid looking and the only reason I'm not putting it higher really is that I'm too lazy to rethink the higher bots now that I've gotten to here. But if TBR puts forward weapons-grade RPs with this thing it could actually consider breaking top 4. HW is pretty tight honestly.

Shrek
Similar to Rocket Knight but idk, slightly worse or something.

Jackelyn Cryderman
Martijn :qq:


SHW

Minion :dirk:
That's right, #1. We're going all the way with Minion baby. You might as well just give me the title now. Clearly the tournament's just a formality at this point. :v:
*Joe Biden takes a long drawl from a cigarette in a dark alley in the rain*
*Jumps into his Trans Am to head over to the LORE arena to drive Minion*
*Stabstract wearing a 9 foot Tom Baker scarf barks in approval and hops into the passenger seat*

That's right, we're officially wrasslin in SHW.
:v:

Hephaestus
Probably Minion's toughest matchup, therefore making it #2, albeit a distant, pathetic, a gay #2. :v:

Mandetta
The moustache bumps the robot up a tier. In a year where a hard counter like Minion had not been entered, it might've been a championship contender. :v:

Force Majeure
A decent looking Brit-axe. It may hold out for some time against Minion, but I can sense the fear in Nick F's eyes, and I know he will stumble. :v:

Black Mamba
Stands no chance against Minion. No thousand-word RP can change that. :v:

Statikk Shiv
A Solar Smash clone spiritual successor. In its non-Minion matchups it could do well. :v:

A Grand Declaration of War
Probably the only melty in this tourney that impresses Minion. AGDOW has balls. It's the Mark Hamill of Melty Thwacks and I think it commands respect. Lesser robots than Minion should fear this powerhouse. But Minion has nothing to fear obviously. :v:

Power-Jack
It would be a problem for Minion with that axe, but we all know it will be destroyed before it ever gets a chance to use it. :v:

Master of Savagery
Kody clearly knew ahead of time that the murderous Minion would be in this tourney! For he entered a decoy bot so as to spare the records of his more prized robots from the almost-surely-inevitable humiliation Minion would've caused to them. :v:

G.R.O.S.S.
A seriously powerful, albeit flawed and unstable robot, which will probably last all of 20 seconds against Minion--which is good, and not shameful at all, compared to how most bots will do. :v:

Chemical Fusion
Alas, as a vertical spinner it will inevitably be compared to Minion, and that will simply serve to underline the shortcomings in virtually all areas compared to Minion. :v:

Nitrax
A valiant effort. The best robot in the weight class, other than all of the other ones. Minion will be sporting and go easy on it. :v:

Edited by BEES, Mar 27 2015, 09:31 AM.
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Just for the record, Harbinger isn't supposed to be a Melty thwack. ;)
Area51Escapee,Jan 30 2011
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Spatula,Jan 29 2011
11:32 PM
I should go 3-1 this week but it'll probably be something like 0-4 or 0-5.

It sucks going 0-5. You lose all 4 of your bot fights for the week and you also lose at life.
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Updated my predictions. :v:
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From what I've seen so far, got some nice solid predictions all-round, so hopefully I'll be able to do OK. Might post some of my own predictions later on as well.
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Cherry Bomb Classic: Season 2 (8-0)
Swiftsure- 2-0
Torque Dirty 2 Me- 2-0
Ayame- 1-0
Dead on Arrival- 1-0
Barley Picker- 1-0
Lethal Injection 3- 1-0

Robot Bastards 2 (5-5)
Apathy & Lethargy- 2-1
Trump ex Machina- 0-3
Rainbow in the Dark- 3-1 (6-3)

Ruination: The Upheaval (20-8)
Ayame- 6-1
Marauder- 6-1
Dreadnought Mk3- 3-4
Lethal Injection 3- 5-2

ALL-TIME RECORD
Wins: 347
Losses: 230
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Mar 28 2015, 09:11 AM
Might post some of my own predictions later on as well.
DO EEEEEET
Area51Escapee,Jan 30 2011
01:27 AM
Spatula,Jan 29 2011
11:32 PM
I should go 3-1 this week but it'll probably be something like 0-4 or 0-5.

It sucks going 0-5. You lose all 4 of your bot fights for the week and you also lose at life.
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Mar 28 2015, 12:59 PM
GF93
Mar 28 2015, 09:11 AM
Might post some of my own predictions later on as well.
DO EEEEEET
Well, here they are for now- will update them accordingly as I go along. Usually the problem I tend to have with predictions is trying to come up with exactly where everyone will be, but hopefully I'll have done OK in this case. :v:

Lightweight
(Will be added.)


Middleweight
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Heavyweight
(Will be added.)


Superheavyweight
Hephaestus
I think this one will probably be my big tip to win. Big, powerful, and looks very well-suited to trapping and pulverising most of the bricks here. Not so sure about the 1 Torque though, but let's face it, who needs to push when you've got a 12-powered Axe and a front Scoop the size of South America. XD

G.R.O.S.S.
Too bad that anagram doesn't really mean Get Rid Of Slimy Spinners. :v:
As the main spinner here, it should be able to dish out some real damage with those blades, and the unusual shape should make it very tricky for opponents to keep under control. Definitely a good thing to be doing as you're smashing them to tiny bits!

M For Mandetta
Very solid design, and owner of the most splendid moustache in the Superheavyweight division! The exposed and quite spindly framework could pose problems against certain opponents, but other than that, it's a very good-looking and effective rammer design.

Black Mamba
She's basically Barrier now, which I'm sure is completely OK with everyone. What else is there to say? :P

Chemical Fusion
With that disc, it looks like a big improvement over its original counterpart in Robot Bastards, but how well it does depends on if he can get the Disc into play as much as he'd like. If he can, that's good, and I think I can see him doing so with the Omniwheel and everything. He'll have to be wary around things that can turn him over, however.

Master of Savagery
This one looks good as well, particularly with the wood-effect and the theming, particularly around the weapons. Looks like a solid fighter as well, particularly with the Torque and the Speed behind it. It does look quite vulnerable to the Flippers/Lifters here, and the Scythes look like they could be bent quite easily, however.

Statik Shivv
First of all Dylan, I'd just like to say thank you for not entering Phantasmic Slammer again- I did almost put this guy up top because of that, but eh. :P
Anyway though, I like the design a lot- very nice Solar Smash lookalike, should be good against the Spinners. It's a little bit narrow however, will have problems turning due to a combination of that and the 6WD, and I'm entirely not too sure how much damage the Spike will be capable of doing on its own like that.

Minion

In all seriousness though, not quite. I do like the redesign a lot, particularly with regards to how the Wedges and Disc are laid out. It's a bit slower and less torque-y than I would have initially expected from looking at it however, and a combination of below-average Traction, 6-wheel drive and a lack of protection round the sides could cause it problems, I fear.

Force Majeure


Nitrax
Not too bad despite the placing. Definitely Mystic's best SHW, and could potentially cause some upsets with some decent RPing. Trouble is though, its corners and sides are going to be massive targets to both the wedges and other spinners, and whilst the weapon is good, it just lacks protection everywhere else for the most part.

A Grand Declaration of War
It's a definite improvement over Watcher (What with having weapons on both ends so it can actually do damage like it should and everything. :v: ), but I'm not too sure how well it can do in a season with loads of bricks- particularly ones capable of barging right through it as it spins.

Powerjack
Interesting fact- considering this is the original version of Decapitator that competed in LORE1, it means all of the ICR machines from there (Conqueror, Decapitator, Bomb, and Mamba) have all returned in some format for LORE2. :P
In all seriousness though, sorry that it's so low Lian, but I can't help but feel a little sceptical about how the clamping aspect of Powerjack will work, considering it was originally designed as a fast Power Axe and all. The flat-edged axe isn't really suited for gripping onto opponents like a pick is (Particularly not with the Axe Power as low as it is.), and due to the amount of points invested in the Weapons, it's left a little high and dry in other areas, particularly with regards to drive and armour. It's still OK though, but as Kody mentioned, the weapon split and difficulty to maintain a real grip on opponents is going to fuck up his chances big-time.
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"I will not die until I achieve something. Even though the ideal is high, I never give in. Therefore, I never die with regrets."

Cherry Bomb Classic: Season 2 (8-0)
Swiftsure- 2-0
Torque Dirty 2 Me- 2-0
Ayame- 1-0
Dead on Arrival- 1-0
Barley Picker- 1-0
Lethal Injection 3- 1-0

Robot Bastards 2 (5-5)
Apathy & Lethargy- 2-1
Trump ex Machina- 0-3
Rainbow in the Dark- 3-1 (6-3)

Ruination: The Upheaval (20-8)
Ayame- 6-1
Marauder- 6-1
Dreadnought Mk3- 3-4
Lethal Injection 3- 5-2

ALL-TIME RECORD
Wins: 347
Losses: 230
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Mar 20 2015, 10:37 AM
i will narrowly miss the playoffs
CALLED IT
March or Die - Ruination: The Omen MW Last Eight, Ruination: The Omen Tag Team Champion (with the Green Hornet / NWOWWE), Ruination: The Contagion MW CHAMPION
Corrupt Politician - Reign of Steel SHW Finalist
Murder Is Fun! - Reign of Steel HW Semi-Finalist
Shrek - Hammerfall 4th Place

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I'm starting to regret entering.
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I got my lightweight picks exactly right, predicting all 6 playoff bots and the two that got a Bye. I even got Dead and Scatterbrain sitting outside looking in, which ended up being exactly what happened.

Middleweight was off. Merry Hampton did worse than what everyone thought it would do (good, I hope I don't see more designs like it in the future). BRVR could've made the playoffs if Mystic ever RP'd so I'll give myself a pass for that. Toe Chipper I had outside looking in; it had to have a couple things go right for it, which it thankfully did. Depth Charge, Harbinger, and BPB I all missed on. BPB couldn't get any luck and GF93 was forced to forfeit a couple times since he toed the deadline.

Gah!!! Heavyweight I was one robot wrong! Shrek sat just outside the playoffs, while Coldforge got the ~pity wins~ and a bunch of KOs.

SHW same as heavyweight. I got the two Byes correct, and missed Force Majure's spot with Master of Savagery's (who wrote all those wins for MoS... that's what I want to know.)

So out of 24 playoff spots, I got 19 correct, and out of 8 byes I got 4 correct. Pretty decent.
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Dr. P: 4-8
Square Wave: 11-1
Snijmachine: 10-2
Parabolic Trajectory: 11-1
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who wrote all those wins for MoS... that's what I want to know.
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-This will be the bot that keeps Kody from making the playoffs in all 4 weight classes. I like the concept, but the competition will be too tough for it.
Damn jokebots. :v:
Area51Escapee,Jan 30 2011
01:27 AM
Spatula,Jan 29 2011
11:32 PM
I should go 3-1 this week but it'll probably be something like 0-4 or 0-5.

It sucks going 0-5. You lose all 4 of your bot fights for the week and you also lose at life.
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