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Ruination: The Contagion - Discussion
Topic Started: Aug 20 2014, 11:10 AM (8,078 Views)
That Kode Guy
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Oct 19 2015, 12:21 PM
What I've noticed a lot though is that without a set deadline more and more people just wait and wait as late as they can on Saturday (or even into the early part of Sunday). With a hard deadline, there's slightly less incentive to just put off doing your RPs as late as you feel you can get away with. I mean I guess people could still wait until Saturday night if they really wanted, but really there's almost never a real valid excuse for waiting until right up to or past the deadline to do your RPs.

It would be really nice if almost everybody didn't wait until Saturday anyway. I'd be much better if I could actually get some of the results done over the course of the week. It's a lot easier to find time to do 2-3 leftover results on a Sunday than it is to find time for a full 6-7, and a LOT less tedious as well. I can't speak for everyone, but by the time I get to the end of having to do at least half a dozen fights in a row, my quality starts dipping more and more because I'm just ready to be done since I've probably been looking at RPs and such for at least the last 1 hour and half or 2 hours.
This. It's much less stressful for the results writers if they have their fixtures done progressively over the week than doing everything on one day.

And really, what puts people off doing them during the week? It's not hard to throw one or even two RPs up per day.
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That Kode Guy
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Most of the results are up, see how you've done so far!

Week 5 schedule is being worked on.
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2-0 so far. Good to see Kraze getting back on form after a poor start, would have liked to have an actual match between Agent X and Pathos though. Now we have to see how badly Frequency gets smashed :v:
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2-1 so far. It's good to see Dedede making a good showing at least.
Area51Escapee,Jan 30 2011
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Spatula,Jan 29 2011
11:32 PM
I should go 3-1 this week but it'll probably be something like 0-4 or 0-5.

It sucks going 0-5. You lose all 4 of your bot fights for the week and you also lose at life.
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That Kode Guy
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Week 5 schedule is now up, check it out in the RP room!
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Hey, I went 3-1! Not too shabby!
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Eat Me Too: 2-0
Eye of Fury: 1-1

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Eat Me Too: 3-1
Lulver: 3-1
Wedgelord: 3-1
Scrunglebot: 2-2

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Siphai
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Oct 19 2015, 12:21 PM
What I've noticed a lot though is that without a set deadline more and more people just wait and wait as late as they can on Saturday (or even into the early part of Sunday). With a hard deadline, there's slightly less incentive to just put off doing your RPs as late as you feel you can get away with. I mean I guess people could still wait until Saturday night if they really wanted, but really there's almost never a real valid excuse for waiting until right up to or past the deadline to do your RPs.

It would be really nice if almost everybody didn't wait until Saturday anyway. I'd be much better if I could actually get some of the results done over the course of the week. It's a lot easier to find time to do 2-3 leftover results on a Sunday than it is to find time for a full 6-7, and a LOT less tedious as well. I can't speak for everyone, but by the time I get to the end of having to do at least half a dozen fights in a row, my quality starts dipping more and more because I'm just ready to be done since I've probably been looking at RPs and such for at least the last 1 hour and half or 2 hours.

So no, I don't think there's any good argument against putting the hard deadline back in place.
Even back when there was a hard deadline, like Defiance, Vengeance, Annihilation, the FRRs, the majority of RPs still came in on Saturday. It's seriously the most convenient day for people to RP. If it wasn't, and there really is no valid excuse for waiting until the Saturday, why not make the deadline earlier in the week? Like Friday or Thursday night? That gives the results writers the full weekend to do the results.
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If we made the deadline earlier, people would just wonder why we don't put up the results earlier too. It's not really solving the problem in the long run.

Yeah, you can go on and on about how it's more "convenient" to RP on Saturday. Well obviously it can't be all that much more convenient if people are still doing RPs right up to when the deadline is rather than sporadically throughout the day.

Here's a more realistic interpretation. People see the deadline, notice it's days and days away so they aren't worried about it right now. Then it's Saturday, and I guess most people have more fun things to do on Saturday then type up RPs. So now all of a sudden it's Saturday night and here comes the deadline. The time gets a bit staggered since we're dealing with a lot more time zones than back in the old days, but it's still most people doing them as late as possible.
Area51Escapee,Jan 30 2011
01:27 AM
Spatula,Jan 29 2011
11:32 PM
I should go 3-1 this week but it'll probably be something like 0-4 or 0-5.

It sucks going 0-5. You lose all 4 of your bot fights for the week and you also lose at life.
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Hey, Rampage actually won a fight! Depending on how well Halberd does in FRR: Backlash, Rampage may return with the plow hinged and more power in the axe. But if Halberd does really well then I'll continue to roll with it.

I really hate winning by forfeit. I know a win is a win and I'll take it, but it's not how I want to win at all.
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FRR: Backlash
Veto: 2-0
Buzz Cut: 2-0
Halberd: 0-2
Airtime Extreme: 2-0

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Halberd: 5-1 (Reached Quarterfinals)
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British-Robotics
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Wow oh wow!, That HW battle was key for Rocket Knight, revenge is sweet after last tournament's defeat for him, Upchuck peformed greatly, Bammer is not having any luck is he, Chemiclal Explosion, I await.

2-1 so far the score, the SHW match awaits.
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FRR Backlash
Powerdrive Jr 0-4
Lethal Carriageway 3-1
Sparkster 4-0
Chemical Explosion V2
1-3
"Completely British Killers"

Ruination: The Contagion:
Chemical Explosion - SHW Champion
Rocket Knight - HW Quarter Finalist


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Ruination: The Contagion:
Chemical Explosion: (Astrobot Award, The Windmill Award, Blood Thirsty Award (Shared with Redemption Denied)
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playzooki
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oi
meat rub king lost rip chances of going 4-0 with a robot made in 10 minutes.

although mod is 4-0 so theres that i guess.
March or Die - Ruination: The Omen MW Last Eight, Ruination: The Omen Tag Team Champion (with the Green Hornet / NWOWWE), Ruination: The Contagion MW CHAMPION
Corrupt Politician - Reign of Steel SHW Finalist
Murder Is Fun! - Reign of Steel HW Semi-Finalist
Shrek - Hammerfall 4th Place

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I'm starting to regret entering.
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That Kode Guy
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playzooki
Oct 19 2015, 04:35 PM
although mod is 4-0 so theres that i guess.
i told you about march or die man

i fucking told you
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GF93
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Vi veri veniversum vivus vici.
Not bad at all so far! Glad to see I was able to beat Warwolf and MRK, both were surprisingly tough to deal wit. I was very pleasantly surprised at Conqueror being able to take down Eudial as well- I thought for sure it'd end up getting smashed, so I think we can safely say that the old guard's still got it. :P
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Cherry Bomb Classic: Season 2 (8-0)
Swiftsure- 2-0
Torque Dirty 2 Me- 2-0
Ayame- 1-0
Dead on Arrival- 1-0
Barley Picker- 1-0
Lethal Injection 3- 1-0

Robot Bastards 2 (5-5)
Apathy & Lethargy- 2-1
Trump ex Machina- 0-3
Rainbow in the Dark- 3-1 (6-3)

Ruination: The Upheaval (20-8)
Ayame- 6-1
Marauder- 6-1
Dreadnought Mk3- 3-4
Lethal Injection 3- 5-2

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Wins: 347
Losses: 230
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You're just a voice pal, you don't know a damn thing about racing!
im sure the writers will find a way to make desolation lose

why do i even try anymore
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Redline - Robot Bastards LW Champion
Sling Shot - Bot-o-Rama 2016 Sportsman Champion
The Debilitator - Cherry Bomb Classic Lightweight Champion
Pyrite - FRR Backlash Lightweight Champion
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Badnik96
Oct 19 2015, 04:57 PM
im sure the writers will find a way to make desolation lose

why do i even try anymore
Look on the bright side, at least his name matches his win record. :dawg:
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"I will not die until I achieve something. Even though the ideal is high, I never give in. Therefore, I never die with regrets."

Cherry Bomb Classic: Season 2 (8-0)
Swiftsure- 2-0
Torque Dirty 2 Me- 2-0
Ayame- 1-0
Dead on Arrival- 1-0
Barley Picker- 1-0
Lethal Injection 3- 1-0

Robot Bastards 2 (5-5)
Apathy & Lethargy- 2-1
Trump ex Machina- 0-3
Rainbow in the Dark- 3-1 (6-3)

Ruination: The Upheaval (20-8)
Ayame- 6-1
Marauder- 6-1
Dreadnought Mk3- 3-4
Lethal Injection 3- 5-2

ALL-TIME RECORD
Wins: 347
Losses: 230
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Siphai
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Oct 19 2015, 01:17 PM
If we made the deadline earlier, people would just wonder why we don't put up the results earlier too. It's not really solving the problem in the long run.
Why not? I mean, with the caveat that people are told to expect results on Monday, I think it's fine to give the writers the full weekend to work.

The problem is essentially that people are given too much time to RP so we have to set a hard deadline, so that we can help give the writers more time to write the results. Seems to me that the best way of doing that would be to give the writers the entire weekend instead of Sunday/Monday.

I mean, as it is, I really don't think you'll see a change in when people RP. People will always put stuff off to the deadline. Whether you make the deadline Saturday, Friday, Thursday. Whether you give people a week or 3 days.

If you want people to RP earlier so you can start writing earlier, then just move the deadline up imo. A hard deadline vs a soft deadline isn't really going to change anything, especially since people already could and did get burned by the soft deadline anyway and it didn't really make anyone RP earlier.
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Dr. P: 4-8
Square Wave: 11-1
Snijmachine: 10-2
Parabolic Trajectory: 11-1
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Toxic
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Sorry guys, wedding stuff got in the way this week. Will bounce back this week.
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Toxic
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Also, not that it matters but Hammerfall has a hard deadline....we had a user post like 8 hours after the due time and his RP was ignored. I've made it a point to enforce that pretty hard for this tournament. IMO, it works if you are up front with it at the very beginning.
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playzooki
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KodeBreaker
Oct 19 2015, 04:47 PM
playzooki
Oct 19 2015, 04:35 PM
although mod is 4-0 so theres that i guess.
i told you about march or die man

i fucking told you
from looking at the past robots i have made that have done well i think meat rub king will do better :v:
March or Die - Ruination: The Omen MW Last Eight, Ruination: The Omen Tag Team Champion (with the Green Hornet / NWOWWE), Ruination: The Contagion MW CHAMPION
Corrupt Politician - Reign of Steel SHW Finalist
Murder Is Fun! - Reign of Steel HW Semi-Finalist
Shrek - Hammerfall 4th Place

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I'm starting to regret entering.
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BEES
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I've never lived by anyone's rules but my own.
I'm fine with whatever. My tournaments will always have soft deadlines, but not because I think they're superior. I just know it would be unfair to hold RP'ers to a higher standard for punctuality than I would end up holding myself at getting the actual results up.
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