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LoRE 2: The Other Electric Boogaloo - Discussion
Topic Started: Apr 23 2014, 04:43 PM (9,883 Views)
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Area51Escapee,Jan 30 2011
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Spatula,Jan 29 2011
11:32 PM
I should go 3-1 this week but it'll probably be something like 0-4 or 0-5.

It sucks going 0-5. You lose all 4 of your bot fights for the week and you also lose at life.
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Mar 15 2015, 01:54 PM
Before the start of the tournament there is a rule I'd like to clarify; the parabolic trajectory rule. Armor bonuses are done by stating a piece of armor that you want to give a bonus to, and subtracting that value from the rest of the robot. I previously entered Parabolic Trajectory in a tournament (yes, just the one) giving an armor bonus to both of the front hinged wedges. This was challenged and, being a dickhead I replied that the hinged wedges were connected at some point. Of course, this had to be accepted - because why not?

The armor bonus rule can be a little weird if this is held to be true. For example, on Automaton if I gave the armor bonus to just his teeth, that would mean that each tooth counts individually and that the result being that 5 armor is subtracted from the rest of the robot. This doesn't make sense. The teeth are small enough that they should require such a huge change in armor value from the rest of the robot. The whole concept behind this was that you took weight away from other places on the robot, and stuck it on the front for extra armor.

So you get something like Parabolic Trajectory, where the wedges being connected - and therefore heavier - requires less armor being redistributed than if it had two individually hinged wedges. This clearly doesn't make sense.

However, there is a problem where allowing separate pieces to receive armor bonuses without detracting from the main armor can be abused. Hopefully the caveat that whatever receiving the bonus needs to be on the same side combats this somewhat (so if parabolic trajectory put one of its hinged wedges on its back, then it would count individually), along with the 33% armor rule.

Thoughts?
Anyway what are people's thoughts on this ruling? Basically the idea is that - if a wedge is cut into multiple pieces (or something similar, like a plow) it can 'count' as one piece for the armor bonus as long as:

1. It's on the same side
2. The collection isn't larger than 33%
3. Within the staff discretion (so that if something looks like its going to abuse this rule, then it doesn't get the bonus. This is only because I'm having trouble imagining vagrant violations of the ruling as it is written right now)
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Dr. P: 4-8
Square Wave: 11-1
Snijmachine: 10-2
Parabolic Trajectory: 11-1
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Sounds good. I've always counted the bonus that way anyway. I never felt it had to be connected, so long as it was all on one side and not 33% basically.
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Sounds good to me. What if robots have one thing in front of the other, such as BlackRose with its doubled wedges?
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Mar 18 2015, 01:46 PM
Sounds good to me. What if robots have one thing in front of the other, such as BlackRose with its doubled wedges?
I would imagine those would obviously have to be counted as completely separate.
Area51Escapee,Jan 30 2011
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Spatula,Jan 29 2011
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I should go 3-1 this week but it'll probably be something like 0-4 or 0-5.

It sucks going 0-5. You lose all 4 of your bot fights for the week and you also lose at life.
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Mar 18 2015, 01:56 PM
I would imagine those would obviously have to be counted as completely separate.
Agreeing with this. There would be hardly any need for an additional bonus anyway for the wedge on the bottom.
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Mar 18 2015, 01:56 PM
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Mar 18 2015, 01:46 PM
Sounds good to me. What if robots have one thing in front of the other, such as BlackRose with its doubled wedges?
I would imagine those would obviously have to be counted as completely separate.
Yeah, I guess we could put in a caveat that it has to be 'on the same plane' or something like that, but I think that we can kinda cover this under Part 3 of the rule. Just use a little common sense on this.
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Square Wave: 11-1
Snijmachine: 10-2
Parabolic Trajectory: 11-1
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Yeah I'll let that happen.
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Mar 18 2015, 03:02 PM
Yeah I'll let that happen.
Kk, edited the rules.
Team Targeted - (36-12) Robot Bastards

Dr. P: 4-8
Square Wave: 11-1
Snijmachine: 10-2
Parabolic Trajectory: 11-1
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playzooki, what's your LW's name? :v:
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If it doesn't get a name by the deadline I'm going to call it "Playzooki Smells"
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Mar 18 2015, 03:47 PM
playzooki, what's your LW's name? :v:
its called "anime is shit also playzooki smells ok"
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its called "anime is shit also playzooki smells ok"
1/10 would not let compete again
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[6:06:20 PM] Playzööki: should i rename my lw to anime is shit also playzooki smells ok :V
[6:12:00 PM] Badnik96: no

i'm using my tourney organizer powers to veto the name change. His robot continues to be named dead
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Dr. P: 4-8
Square Wave: 11-1
Snijmachine: 10-2
Parabolic Trajectory: 11-1
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Assuming I actually have any of those, including waifus. :v:

Incidentally, I wonder how you'd like going 0-5 every week. :P
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nah, only like 95% of anime is shit

which is the same as everything else really
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