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Crazy Bots: New Breed City - Discussion
Topic Started: Oct 28 2013, 04:57 PM (9,745 Views)
playzooki
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march or die can ski through your mums back doors 420 revolving doors. on one ski. backwards. while 1080 noscoping scrubs.
March or Die - Ruination: The Omen MW Last Eight, Ruination: The Omen Tag Team Champion (with the Green Hornet / NWOWWE), Ruination: The Contagion MW CHAMPION
Corrupt Politician - Reign of Steel SHW Finalist
Murder Is Fun! - Reign of Steel HW Semi-Finalist
Shrek - Hammerfall 4th Place

GF93
 
I'm starting to regret entering.
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Badnik96
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You're just a voice pal, you don't know a damn thing about racing!
Yes but it appears it spent all of its time doing that instead of making the playoffs :dawg:
Team Ignition
WhipCoil - The Crash & Burn Tournament 5 Champion
Redline - Robot Bastards LW Champion
Sling Shot - Bot-o-Rama 2016 Sportsman Champion
The Debilitator - Cherry Bomb Classic Lightweight Champion
Pyrite - FRR Backlash Lightweight Champion
Doomerang - Robot Fight Night Heavyweight Champion

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Badnik96
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You're just a voice pal, you don't know a damn thing about racing!
but seriously this whole argument is stupid and really we shouldnt be getting mad like this. its a fucking game dammit
Team Ignition
WhipCoil - The Crash & Burn Tournament 5 Champion
Redline - Robot Bastards LW Champion
Sling Shot - Bot-o-Rama 2016 Sportsman Champion
The Debilitator - Cherry Bomb Classic Lightweight Champion
Pyrite - FRR Backlash Lightweight Champion
Doomerang - Robot Fight Night Heavyweight Champion

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MadBull
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fuck this, I'm dropping out of CBNBC
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Siphai
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Badnik96
Mar 16 2015, 01:59 PM
but seriously this whole argument is stupid and really we shouldnt be getting mad like this. its a fucking game dammit
the arguement is cool actually, and no one is getting mad
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Dr. P: 4-8
Square Wave: 11-1
Snijmachine: 10-2
Parabolic Trajectory: 11-1
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MadBull
Mar 16 2015, 03:09 PM
fuck this, I'm dropping out of CBNBC
I'm deleting all your wins from FRR: No Mercy!
Area51Escapee,Jan 30 2011
01:27 AM
Spatula,Jan 29 2011
11:32 PM
I should go 3-1 this week but it'll probably be something like 0-4 or 0-5.

It sucks going 0-5. You lose all 4 of your bot fights for the week and you also lose at life.
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playzooki
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Siphai
Mar 16 2015, 03:13 PM
Badnik96
Mar 16 2015, 01:59 PM
but seriously this whole argument is stupid and really we shouldnt be getting mad like this. its a fucking game dammit
the arguement is cool actually, and no one is getting mad
Agreed
March or Die - Ruination: The Omen MW Last Eight, Ruination: The Omen Tag Team Champion (with the Green Hornet / NWOWWE), Ruination: The Contagion MW CHAMPION
Corrupt Politician - Reign of Steel SHW Finalist
Murder Is Fun! - Reign of Steel HW Semi-Finalist
Shrek - Hammerfall 4th Place

GF93
 
I'm starting to regret entering.
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Badnik96
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You're just a voice pal, you don't know a damn thing about racing!
All RPed up for the playoffs. let's do this shit.
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WhipCoil - The Crash & Burn Tournament 5 Champion
Redline - Robot Bastards LW Champion
Sling Shot - Bot-o-Rama 2016 Sportsman Champion
The Debilitator - Cherry Bomb Classic Lightweight Champion
Pyrite - FRR Backlash Lightweight Champion
Doomerang - Robot Fight Night Heavyweight Champion

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NFX
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Fuck Bitches Get Crystals
RPs up. All two of them. Let's see if I can keep Scatterbrain's unlikely run of form going. :v:
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GF93
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Just working on my RPs now, but I realise I might not be able to complete them all by 5. Don't worry, I'll have them up by 6 at the latest, but I just wanted to make sure it's OK if I go slightly over.
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"I will not die until I achieve something. Even though the ideal is high, I never give in. Therefore, I never die with regrets."

Cherry Bomb Classic: Season 2 (8-0)
Swiftsure- 2-0
Torque Dirty 2 Me- 2-0
Ayame- 1-0
Dead on Arrival- 1-0
Barley Picker- 1-0
Lethal Injection 3- 1-0

Robot Bastards 2 (5-5)
Apathy & Lethargy- 2-1
Trump ex Machina- 0-3
Rainbow in the Dark- 3-1 (6-3)

Ruination: The Upheaval (20-8)
Ayame- 6-1
Marauder- 6-1
Dreadnought Mk3- 3-4
Lethal Injection 3- 5-2

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Losses: 230
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Alex Valentine is the hero we deserve.

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That Kode Guy
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Mar 21 2015, 11:00 PM
Just working on my RPs now, but I realise I might not be able to complete them all by 5. Don't worry, I'll have them up by 6 at the latest, but I just wanted to make sure it's OK if I go slightly over.
It shouldn't be. :v:

This is why you do them earlier in the week, to avoid situations like this. :v:
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GF93
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LW RP up, just going to sort out the other two now.
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"I will not die until I achieve something. Even though the ideal is high, I never give in. Therefore, I never die with regrets."

Cherry Bomb Classic: Season 2 (8-0)
Swiftsure- 2-0
Torque Dirty 2 Me- 2-0
Ayame- 1-0
Dead on Arrival- 1-0
Barley Picker- 1-0
Lethal Injection 3- 1-0

Robot Bastards 2 (5-5)
Apathy & Lethargy- 2-1
Trump ex Machina- 0-3
Rainbow in the Dark- 3-1 (6-3)

Ruination: The Upheaval (20-8)
Ayame- 6-1
Marauder- 6-1
Dreadnought Mk3- 3-4
Lethal Injection 3- 5-2

ALL-TIME RECORD
Wins: 347
Losses: 230
KodeBreaker
 
Alex Valentine is the hero we deserve.

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BEES
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Badnik96
Mar 16 2015, 01:59 PM
but seriously this whole argument is stupid and really we shouldnt be getting mad like this. its a fucking game dammit
This argument has been a long time coming. I'm tempted to jump in but... there's some stuff we could talk about that could literally kill ARC. This is dangerous stuff we're fiddling with here.

My suggestion to writers is that this is a small community. We're not turning away people left and right. The top teams are closely matched. I think we can at least agree on that. We all might experiment a bit but we all know how to design and stat competitive bots. If someone in that group feels like they're not getting enough credit for their designs, and they're not getting results on par with what they've entered, well... they're not gonna have fun and they're not gonna stick around. Ultimately it's not robots that are really fighting. There are humans on the other side of those posts.

I'll leave it at that for now, but I will have more to say later.

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GF93
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OK, that's all of them. Good luck, everyone.
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"I will not die until I achieve something. Even though the ideal is high, I never give in. Therefore, I never die with regrets."

Cherry Bomb Classic: Season 2 (8-0)
Swiftsure- 2-0
Torque Dirty 2 Me- 2-0
Ayame- 1-0
Dead on Arrival- 1-0
Barley Picker- 1-0
Lethal Injection 3- 1-0

Robot Bastards 2 (5-5)
Apathy & Lethargy- 2-1
Trump ex Machina- 0-3
Rainbow in the Dark- 3-1 (6-3)

Ruination: The Upheaval (20-8)
Ayame- 6-1
Marauder- 6-1
Dreadnought Mk3- 3-4
Lethal Injection 3- 5-2

ALL-TIME RECORD
Wins: 347
Losses: 230
KodeBreaker
 
Alex Valentine is the hero we deserve.

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BEES
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Microwave cannot self right, one flip = dead.


So... about this...

Like, I'm not going to claim that Microwave 'deserved' to beat Kite or anything. The outcome was fine. But I do think that this is a closer matchup than you're giving it credit for.

If you don't think Microwave can self-right, that's fine and all, but that's your opinion. I'm not gonna claim it's 100% efficient and it might take an extended time before it eventually gets over... but then again how many matches did Megabyte fail to eventually self-right? And while it's wobbling around upside-down it's not immobile, so if it happens towards the end of the fight it could still win the JD.

I feel like you're considering Microwave's weakness but pretty much glossing over Kite's weakness which is that in a front-to-front collision, Kite has a very hard time getting under. That's kind of a big deal for a bot that needs to get under its opponents to do anything. To make matters worse when lifted from any side--Kite's wheels no longer touch the ground, but Microwave's still do. So any time Kite gets benched on the teeth, it can basically get pushed around freely without resistance. Point is, both bots have issues. Microwave can't KO Kite and will only do minor damage at most because of its armor. Neither are really comfortable with the matchup.

But... that's the thing! This is a close matchup. It is totally reasonable that Microwave lost. I'm totally cool with it. But it would not have been unreasonable if it had gone the other way too. And there are other matches that could've happened. I'm just pointing this one out because I know about it more, since I was in it.

The issue isn't with any single matchup per se... it's when someone continuously wins close matchups every time for four years that we start to have a problem. Individually, the wins might be reasonable but the fact that those matchups always go in one direction is where the issue lies.
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I'd feel more sympathetic to Microwave if Rooster Teeth EVER got the benefit of the doubt :v:
Area51Escapee,Jan 30 2011
01:27 AM
Spatula,Jan 29 2011
11:32 PM
I should go 3-1 this week but it'll probably be something like 0-4 or 0-5.

It sucks going 0-5. You lose all 4 of your bot fights for the week and you also lose at life.
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Siphai
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Mar 22 2015, 09:22 PM
I'd feel more sympathetic to Microwave if Rooster Teeth EVER got the benefit of the doubt :v:
Haha yeah, right, stupid Spatula, with his single championship, to your seven. He doesn't know your pain.
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Dr. P: 4-8
Square Wave: 11-1
Snijmachine: 10-2
Parabolic Trajectory: 11-1
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NWOWWE
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lol I'm not sure what that has to do with bots with self-righting poles being able to self right (or not). Unless you're trying to say it's okay to screw one bot over and give breaks to another because one of the people hasn't won as often as the other.

I mean let's be real, I've literally entered every single tournament since ARC Vengeance. How many has Nick entered? Also he's been more willing to give spots to comedy entrants from time to time while I almost never do (I've entered bad bots, but almost never intentionally so :P ). I'd be willing to bet he'd be much closer to me in championship total if both of those things were different.
Area51Escapee,Jan 30 2011
01:27 AM
Spatula,Jan 29 2011
11:32 PM
I should go 3-1 this week but it'll probably be something like 0-4 or 0-5.

It sucks going 0-5. You lose all 4 of your bot fights for the week and you also lose at life.
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Siphai
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Mar 22 2015, 10:47 PM
lol I'm not sure what that has to do with bots with self-righting poles being able to self right (or not). Unless you're trying to say it's okay to screw one bot over and give breaks to another because one of the people hasn't won as often as the other.

I mean let's be real, I've literally entered every single tournament since ARC Vengeance. How many has Nick entered? Also he's been more willing to give spots to comedy entrants from time to time while I almost never do (I've entered bad bots, but almost never intentionally so :P ). I'd be willing to bet he'd be much closer to me in championship total if both of those things were different.
My bad, I read that statement as more like a "I have no sympathy for Microwave/Spatula getting the benefit of the doubt, because I never do" rather than something specifically about the self-righting pole, but

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You mean to say that this self-righting pole deserves the same benefit of the doubt as Microwaves? Even though its pretty clear it's not nearly long enough to allow it to self right? Like it doesn't reach the edge of the shell, let alone the teeth. It's impossible for it to self-right. The same's true for the updated version:

http://i.imgur.com/M9JvXmB.jpg

Self-righting poles need to be angled far enough such that they reach the edge of the body, so that when the pole rotates, it pushes the chassis far enough that it becomes perpendicular to the floor and likely tilts it back onto its wheels.
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Square Wave: 11-1
Snijmachine: 10-2
Parabolic Trajectory: 11-1
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NWOWWE
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All right then, but from what I can see Microwave has that same issue. It's pole is pretty small, probably smaller than Rooster Teeth's (relatively speaking since they aren't the same weight class), so I'm really not sure where you're going with this.
Area51Escapee,Jan 30 2011
01:27 AM
Spatula,Jan 29 2011
11:32 PM
I should go 3-1 this week but it'll probably be something like 0-4 or 0-5.

It sucks going 0-5. You lose all 4 of your bot fights for the week and you also lose at life.
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