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| Tweet Topic Started: Nov 20 2008, 09:13 AM (171 Views) | |
| myblackwrx | Nov 20 2008, 09:13 AM Post #1 |
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Drivers caught breaking the speed limit by a significant margin twice could be automatically banned from the roads under new government proposals. The idea, set out in a consultation paper, is one of a range of measures aimed at the most dangerous drivers. The document also suggests creating formal drug-drive limits in a bid to make prosecutions easier to achieve. Ministers say they are still gathering evidence on whether the drink-drive limit should be lowered. Road Safety Minister Jim Fitzpatrick told the BBC's Today programme the measures were about "being on the side of the safe motorist". The government wanted to address the 2,946 deaths and the 30,000 serious injuries on British roads last year, he said. "Notwithstanding that these are the best figures we've ever had, we know that we can do more and that we can reduce the numbers of people being killed and seriously injured and that means looking at speeding, drink driving, drug driving, careless driving and people not wearing seatbelts." Ministers would also be looking at whether the drink-drive limit was at the right level, he added. "We will be asking for opinions, we will be looking at the evidence because, again, drinking, we say, is responsible for around 500 of the 3,000 deaths." Disqualified As the law currently stands, the majority of speeding offences are punished with a fixed penalty notice of a fine and three points. But the government wants to introduce tougher punishments for so-called "excessive speeders" - for example, those who drive at more than 90mph on a motorway. If adopted, the proposal - first mooted four years ago - would see these "anti-social drivers" automatically given six points. Being caught twice at such speeds would mean 12 points and an automatic disqualification from driving Also under consideration is the idea that the penalty for a minor speeding offence could be cut to two points. The government also wants to crack down on drivers who use drugs, particularly the "hard core of frequent drug drivers who are primarily males aged between 25 and 35". It estimates that up to one in five motorists killed in road accidents may have drugs in their system. Mr Fitzpatrick told the BBC the message from the government was that people under the influence of illegal substances and some prescription drugs while driving would be exposing themselves to serious penalties. There are currently no drugs breathalysers and no legal "driving limit" for cannabis, heroin or cocaine, so it can be difficult for police on the roadside to tell what motorists have been taking. Nevertheless, the onus is on officers to prove that someone is impaired, perhaps by asking them to walk along a line, or estimate when 30 seconds have passed. Ministers are considering whether introducing formal drug limits could make it easier gain prosecutions. 'Informants' The three-month consultation unveiled on Thursday will also outline proposals to improve the enforcement of drink driving limits. Britain has one of the highest limits in Europe and road safety campaigners had called for the current maximum of 80mg of alcohol in 100ml of blood to be lowered to 50mg. However, the consultation appears to shy away from this idea, suggesting other possible changes instead. According to the Daily Telegraph newspaper, these include encouraging friends, neighbours and colleagues to inform police about people who frequently drink and drive. Those people would then get warning letters and could also be subject to spot checks, the paper said. The number of people killed on British roads last year fell to the lowest level since records began, transport department figures show. Just over 2,940 people died in 2007, a drop of 7% from 2006, with child deaths dropping 28% to a record low of 121. |
| [GK-customfield]Paul[customfield-GK] | |
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| nakamura | Nov 20 2008, 02:53 PM Post #2 |
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Well im glad now i drive like a bit of a fart. Seems too risky to give it any beans anymore. |
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| myblackwrx | Nov 20 2008, 04:38 PM Post #3 |
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Do you mean old fart or just driving legally Old fart driving to me is someone who drives in the outside lane at 10-15 mph than the posted speed limit whereas Legally driving at 10-15 mph in the inside lane giving people allowing people to overtake. Personally i would prefer to see much stricter rules on what learners are able to drive after they pass there test (no matter what their age) and a lot harder driving lesson/test with a lot more relevance on car control a la Top Gear and the piece on Finnish drivers. |
| [GK-customfield]Paul[customfield-GK] | |
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| rob99 | Nov 20 2008, 04:48 PM Post #4 |
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I am having to strictly drive at the speed limit at all times now with the training I'm doing and it is amazing how irrational some people become when they are behind me driving at 1mph below the speed limit. Most mornings when driving to work I have someone overtake me either giving the bird or just glaring at me like I'm some kind of idiot. |
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Everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Peter David Edwards. 15/10/1947 - 26/05/2008. R.I.P. | |
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| myblackwrx | Nov 20 2008, 04:58 PM Post #5 |
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Ah yes soon to be a driving instructor (not teaching in the Rex are we). More visible traffic units would be a pro active approach to kerbing speed imo. |
| [GK-customfield]Paul[customfield-GK] | |
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| nakamura | Nov 20 2008, 06:44 PM Post #6 |
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I mean driving at the limit paul. Yes i stray over but im miles better than i used to be. |
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| Argie | Nov 20 2008, 06:45 PM Post #7 |
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....anything else....like traffic Jams which cause frustration which causes people to be late which causes them to speed and just might kill some people which at the end the day is the Gov'ts fault because they didn't give out the cash to the local councils to actually fix and upgrade the Roads......etc etc etc Give me a country where we don't all have to run around like Headless Chickens all the time :rolleyes: |
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| myblackwrx | Nov 20 2008, 06:58 PM Post #8 |
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That's my point you may go a couple of miles over but aren't actually dangerous. |
| [GK-customfield]Paul[customfield-GK] | |
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| rexyolddaz | Nov 20 2008, 07:18 PM Post #9 |
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Daz has got a chubby!
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Don't you worry about that mate. I have found just the cure. Clicky here for speed limitless driving
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| tension | Nov 20 2008, 07:39 PM Post #10 |
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I nvr speed, it's naughty
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| driftingphoenix | Nov 20 2008, 09:18 PM Post #11 |
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i stick to speed limits too, but maybe the wrong direction :rolleyes: |
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