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Loony Labour Does It Again
Topic Started: Mar 25 2008, 11:29 PM (163 Views)
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml...4/nroads124.xml

Speed limits of just 15 miles-per-hour are to be introduced on major roads in planned new towns across the country as part of an effort to reduce global warming.

Caroline Flint, the housing minister, will unveil the measure when she publishes planning guidelines later this week for up to 15 "eco-towns" across the UK, which will house 100,000 people.


New speed limits will be designed to encourage cycling
The Government wants the towns designed and built to encourage people to stay out of their cars.

It will introduce the low speed limit as a means of getting people to use public transport, walk more or use bicycles, with the aim of cutting pollution and increasing the quality of life for local residents.

The measure has been attacked by pro-car campaigners who called it "lunacy" and fear it is a pilot project ahead of limit cuts in other towns and cities.

Nigel Humphries, of the Association of British Drivers (ABD), said the move was the latest in a long line of attacks on drivers by the Government and questioned whether the move would make people abandon cars.

"It is ridiculous. It is another step towards the return of the man with the red flag walking in front of the car. The Government has got to think of a different way. It just shows how flawed the idea of eco-towns is if they have to bully people into getting out of their cars in this way."

Under the plans, the central areas of the new towns would be pedestrianised, with the 15mph limit introduced on "key roads" into the centre. All homes would be built within 400 yards of public transport stop and 800 yards from shops.

This, the Government argues, will mean just 25 to 40 per cent of journeys will require a car, compared with the current national average of 85 per cent.

Mrs Flint on Monday said the Government had an opportunity to "deliver a programme which will genuinely revolutionise the way people live" and would not shy award from controversial ideas.

She said: "These developments will be exemplars for the rest of the world, not just the rest of the country. It's critical that we get it right - and I make no apology for setting the bar as high as possible."

The RAC questioned whether a blanket 15mph ban was appropriate in all cases, saying a case-by-case approach was needed.

"If they are just looking at it from a vehicle emissions point of view, they need to look at individual situations," a spokesman said.

"The Government should use individual studies and monitoring after three months to see if the limit is still working."

A shortlist of carbon neutral eco-towns will be drawn up from the current list of 60 possible sites in the coming weeks. But several prospective sites are already the focus of opposition from local residents.

Plans for a new town of 15,000 homes near the picturesque village of Weston-on-the-Green in Oxfordshire are being opposed by local residents, led by the parents of former British tennis champion Tim Henman.


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All this global warming bullshit is REALLY starting to get on my nerves.

Idiot government!
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Surely doing 15mph @say 2000rpm in second is the same as doing 40mph at 2000rpm in 5th! Engine is doing the same amount of work, the same emissions!!!!
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Mar 25 2008, 10:41 PM
Surely doing 15mph @say 2000rpm in second is the same as doing 40mph at 2000rpm in 5th! Engine is doing the same amount of work, the same emissions!!!!

More emissions as your travelling slower - longer journey time.
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i'd just drive in first everywhere
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There was an article on the regional news this evening saying that in Portsmouth residential areas now have a 20mph speed limit to encourage people to walk..
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I'm all for new Homes to be built but not random like that. I hardly think that building so called 'eco-towns is going to do any good apart from House those who cannot afford decent transport ie the Car.
If the Gov't actually spent some money on the "Transportation of people" instead of shoring up the Airline industry then perhaps more would get out of their Vehicles and into clean and regular timed Buses and Trains.

Mrs Flint sounds llike one of those Nulabour robots :rolleyes:

look out for the line with "we think it's the right thing to do" in it.....hear that one quite often from NuLabour <_<

Bunch of idiots :assbeat:
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Tell you what the public transport in japan is outstanding. Buses easy, cheap and comfortable. Trains always on time, also very cheap. Id happily used them all the time.
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nakamura
Mar 26 2008, 12:22 AM
Tell you what the public transport in japan is outstanding. Buses easy, cheap and comfortable. Trains always on time, also very cheap. Id happily used them all the time.

Yeah, we read about that. Also in Amsterdam. You can set your watch by them. But WE just can't seem to get it right somehow <_< . I wonder why <_<
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Mar 26 2008, 06:47 AM
nakamura
Mar 26 2008, 12:22 AM
Tell you what the public transport in japan is outstanding. Buses easy, cheap and comfortable. Trains always on time, also very cheap. Id happily used them all the time.

Yeah, we read about that. Also in Amsterdam. You can set your watch by them. But WE just can't seem to get it right somehow <_< . I wonder why <_<

Pride in their job which seems to be somewhat lacking over here.

in fairness though most european countries and japan had to rebuild most of their cities from scratch due to the RAF and USAF doing a rather good job ;) so the planners could integrate a good public transport system.

But i reckon if we did have a good public transport system it would be bloody expensive.
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Mar 26 2008, 08:51 AM

Pride in their job which seems to be somewhat lacking over here.


An extreme example of this is if you've ever been to a foreign Mac Donalds... (I don't endorse Mac Donalds btw :lol: )
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Mar 26 2008, 10:09 AM
myblackwrx
Mar 26 2008, 08:51 AM

Pride in their job which seems to be somewhat lacking over here.


An extreme example of this is if you've ever been to a foreign Mac Donalds... (I don't endorse Mac Donalds btw :lol: )

yep i've been to 1 in Tokyo (teriyaki burgers ftw :rock:) and 1 in Beijing
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bloody hell.

i'd be more than happy to use the public services. if i had any

we get bus's once an hour where i live now, and nothing at all on a sunday.
how shit is that
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monka
Mar 26 2008, 05:32 PM
bloody hell.

i'd be more than happy to use the public services. if i had any

we get bus's once an hour where i live now, and nothing at all on a sunday.
how shit is that

They'd tell you to cycle to a train station..

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yeah probaly.

thats only a 1mile ride i spose.

along the busiest road to our village. with tankers/cars/lorries going past you at 60odd mph a couple of feet away.

if they made a footpath or a cycle lane i wouldnt mind. its just bloody dangerous
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