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100% CW vs. CWF war getting canceled
Topic Started: November 16 2008, 04:05 PM (5,523 Views)
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(23:10:51) <Miles`> Ok I've heard 2 sides to this war. Gao c + p'd a convo with u saying u didnt want a war/didnt ask for one, but pk3d asked me for one last night and lemon asked again today so we agreed a date because he sed he'd asked u. i have some rules to clear up though
(23:16:11) <Nasir> Gao mixing things up all the time! I have explained it like 3 times now but he comes back after 2 hours and asks the same. I told him I was not going to set up a war now but in 3-4 weeks and then he came to me like 10 minutes ago asking why I lied to him about not wanting to war you...
(23:17:07) <Miles`> so what do u want u must see how confusing this is for me im being told 3 diff things
(23:18:37) <Nasir> The war Lemon sat up with you is the war we are going to have, I don't know what Gao has told you but that's the war we will be having on 29'th
(23:19:01) <Miles`> oh ok
(23:19:12) <Miles`> so let's get some rules in place shall we
(23:19:41) <Nasir> Could we do that later? Maybe tomorrow, I'm in the middle of something =(
(23:20:03) <Miles`> can we have one rule then now?
(23:20:06) <Miles`> its important
(23:20:09) <Nasir> Sure
(23:20:37) <Miles`> Our policy with full out wars is to close the applications till war it prevents mass recruiting and stuff(23:21:16) <Nasir> Alright, but what about the trial members who are has applied and that we might accept?
(23:21:57) <Miles`> um anyone who has apped already is fine :P i'll get a screenshot of ur list but i'll add anyone who has apped too
(23:22:16) <Nasir> Good good =P
(23:22:40) <Nasir> But we might get more application, in that case I'll make sure not to let them in the war if they get in.
(23:23:38) <Miles`> um actually i'd prefer it if we stick to the normal closin apps because it avoids confusion and stuff :P it'll be the same to both clans so dw :P just makes it less confusing
(23:24:35) <Nasir> Yes but I do not want to have our applications closed for 4 weeks >.<, I'd be alright with it if it was one week or so, but 4 weeks are is too long =(
(23:25:11) <Miles`> 3 weeks and it's normal procedure I really must insist i know it's awkward but it's what everyone does with full outs
(23:26:13) <Nasir> I know that people do this, we have talked about doing it with CWP and all but I say 3-4 weeks is just too long!
(23:27:33) <Miles`> I can't back down sry we'll have to arrange another day then because it would just be too much to cope with.
(23:28:40) <Nasir> So the date remains as 29'th? (23:29:09) <Miles`> If you agree to close apps completely :P it's a small price to pay for a good war it shud be fun
(23:29:29) <Miles`> last war i thought we worked well to stop crashing etc
(23:30:02) <Nasir> But I didn't understood what you meant with arraging it another day, say we arrange it in a week for 29'th what would be the difference?
(23:30:15) <Miles`> we wudnt have it on the 29th
(23:30:22) <Miles`> it'd have to be after that
(23:30:26) <Miles`> otherwise it'd be pointless
(23:31:02) <Nasir> But then that'd be the same (23:31:51) <Nasir> As I said the best solution is that you copy the ML and any other person who gets in after the date we decied won't be in the war.
(23:32:19) <Nasir> So you can just check the ML once again and if you see other people who weren't on the ML before you just tell us.
(23:35:21) <Miles`> I'll speak to Brian but I'm pretty sure we can't accept those terms but I'll see.
(23:36:01) <Nasir> Well I can't agree with having my applications closed for four weeks I'm afraid.
(23:36:42) <Miles`> 3 weeks and it'd be equal for both clans...have you never had this rule in a full out before lol
(23:37:56) <Nasir> I'm thinking about my own clan in this situation and not taht it's going to be equal for both... and as I
thing as this, we would be having to close the apps for 3-4 weeks! (23:31:51) <Nasir> As I said the best solution is that you copy the ML and any other person who gets in after the date we decied won't be in the war.
(23:32:19) <Nasir> So you can just check the ML once again and if you see other people who weren't on the ML before you just tell us.
(23:35:21) <Miles`> I'll speak to Brian but I'm pretty sure we can't accept those terms but I'll see.
(23:36:01) <Nasir> Well I can't agree with having my applications closed for four weeks I'm afraid.
(23:36:42) <Miles`> 3 weeks and it'd be equal for both clans...have you never had this rule in a full out before lol
(23:37:56) <Nasir> I'm thinking about my own clan in this situation and not taht it's going to be equal for both... and as I explained I have heard this before...
(23:40:11) <Miles`> I'm making sure we have no crashers at the moment I can't see any reason why it'd be a problem considering we've done this 3-4 times before and haven't had any problems. It makes me feel that the wool is being pulled over my eyes. I can see myself having to argue about members of 100p coming to the war even when they joined afterwards. This may not be the case but similar things have happened before I don't like making the same mistakes. I'm trying to keep the war as clean as possible.
(23:44:19) <Nasir> Crashers are not the issue we are talking about, as you explained before we have dealt with that pretty good in the past so there shouldn't be any problems considering that. But when it comes to letting people who join later in the war I can assure you that you don't have to worry about that, I got a reputation about sticking to my words.
(23:47:59) <Miles`> Ok I'll be willing to comprimise based on the fact I trust you. I'll need u to confirm that the following ml is the latest one and therefore the ppl who will be coming to the war. anyone else on this list can't come (as they will have applied after tonight), i also include a screenshot of those who have recently applied for u and who have not been accepted yet, they are allowed to come. I suggest you take similar screenshots.
(23:48:20) <Miles`> http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/2416/041108232211jw5.png
(23:48:36) <Miles`> http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/6096/041108232218bl6.png
(23:49:06) <Miles`> http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/4321/041108232223bj1.png
(23:49:57) <Miles`> http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/1364/041108232549fq9.png

(23:50:26) <Miles`> That's all of them. If you can just say you agree I'll copy + paste all this into a thread for archiving.
(23:50:59) <Miles`> Then screenshot similarly for me and I'll happily agree and u can do the same.
(23:58:33) <Nasir> That looks good =P, I'll do the same and from today and forward no other people except the ones on ML right now are allowed in war.
(23:59:17) <Miles`> kk send me links and i'll archive it up :P
(00:01:15) <Nasir> I'll do that tomorrow >.<
(00:02:41) <Miles`> kk i got urs alrdy so dw we wont be accepting anyone else overnight but incase we do i'd screenie ours (00:02:53) <Miles`> im going off in 30mins or so
(00:03:26) <Nasir> Alright sounds good =P
(00:03:51) <Miles`> finer details sortd tomoz see you then :P
(00:03:58) <Nasir> Yup ;)
(00:04:02) <Miles`> i'm all ruled out anyway lo
(00:04:06) <Nasir> hehe =P


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(23:05:06) <Nasir> Your application forum: http://nasirtajik.com/100pcw/images/other/...war/cwf-war.jpg
(23:05:16) <Miles`> yup that's fine.
(23:05:17) <Nasir> Stats box: http://nasirtajik.com/100pcw/images/other/...r/cwf-war-1.jpg
(23:05:25) <Miles`> yup
(23:05:27) <Nasir> ML 1: http://nasirtajik.com/100pcw/images/other/...r/cwf-war-2.jpg
(23:05:33) <Miles`> yes
(23:05:36) <Nasir> ML 2: http://nasirtajik.com/100pcw/images/other/...r/cwf-war-3.jpg
(23:05:42) <Nasir> ML 3: http://nasirtajik.com/100pcw/images/other/...r/cwf-war-4.jpg
(23:05:52) <Miles`> ok thanks that's great
(23:05:57) <Nasir> Good good =)
(23:05:57) <Miles`> as i said idk what happened before
(23:06:10) <Miles`> anyway ok so just a few things
(23:06:10) <Nasir> Hehe dw about it, good it's sorted now =P
(23:06:41) <Miles`> last war we had we had a good setup with anti crashing
(23:06:54) <Miles`> if we can do the same thing where we all muster in our diff worlds
(23:06:57) <Miles`> at the far end of the wall
(23:07:03) <Miles`> so ppl cant world hop wen we log in
(23:07:11) <Miles`> it'll keep it secure
(23:07:20) <Nasir> Yup we will do that.
(23:07:31) <Miles`> because if we all hop into lobby ppl will see us if they start hopping for it
(23:07:33) <Miles`> ya ok
(23:07:51) <Nasir> Yeah.
(23:07:53) <Miles`> and also the same crashing rules? I.e any crashers signalled out straight away and we hop if seen before
game
(23:08:08) <Nasir> Yup excatly.
(23:08:19) <Miles`> if they are inside only hop/void game if they score or cade or do stuff which jeopardises one team
(23:08:34) <Nasir> Yeah sounds good.
(23:08:59) <Nasir> So anything else you'd like to add?
(23:09:16) <Miles`> ok and we'll meet in a clan chat say 10 minutes before the war and I'll start hopping to get us a good one like last time. any world preferences like no canadian or anything?
(23:09:25) <Miles`> i mean irc channel not clan chat
(23:09:37) <Miles`> me u pk3d and brian or whoever u want.
(23:10:07) <Nasir> Yes, none Aussie or Canadian worlds.
(23:10:10) <Miles`> because if i'm looking for a world i dont want to pick one u guys know will lag
(23:10:11) <Miles`> oh ok
(23:10:15) <Miles`> i'll keep note
(23:10:20) <Nasir> Good good ;)
(23:10:24) <Miles`> anythinnnnnng else
(23:10:26) <Miles`> mm
(23:10:32) <Nasir> Also about the teams, we switch after each game?
(23:10:42) <Miles`> sara/zam teams u mean?
(23:10:45) <Nasir> Yes
(23:11:00) <Miles`> ok what wud u like to be
(23:11:04) <Miles`> first
(23:11:20) <Nasir> Doesn't really matter, we could go with Sara if it'd be OK for you.
(23:12:08) <Miles`> ok i guess it's only 1 more game with zammy. wud u like me to send u the copy of ml again from last night which u confirmd so u can archive it?
(23:13:01) <Nasir> Yes please.
(23:13:11) <Miles`> http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/6748/041108232211oh3.png
(23:13:26) <Miles`> http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/2320/041108232218gf0.png
(23:13:43) <Miles`> http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/7402/041108232223ia1.png
(23:13:59) <Miles`> http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/7222/041108232549oq0.png
(23:14:16) <Miles`> i'll post our ml up on forums so ppl who arent on know they cant come
(23:14:25) <Nasir> Yup looks good =)
(23:14:36) <Miles`> I guess I'll speak to u nearer the time. Thanks for quick reply.

(23:31:13) <Nasir> [00:23] <Nasir> I also screenshoted all your details today.
(23:31:50) <Miles`> Yes but I did say you should screenshot mine on saturday night wen i did urs but u sed u wer busy
(23:32:14) <Nasir> Yes I really didn't had the time then.
(23:33:11) <Miles`> The screenshot was taken then. You've now recruited 2 of cwg's ex leaders to play in the war after the screenshots were taken which makes them ineligable.
(23:34:04) <Nasir> Sorry I haven't recruited anyone, I do not do what Duff does and go collect people for a war. You may go and ask themselves or anyone else you may trust in.
(23:35:21) <Miles`> Ok you may not have asked them to join but they have joined after your screenshot was taken and
hence after our war was advertised. They both knew about the war before applying so therefore they both applied in order to play. Which means it's an unfair advantage especially after the screenshot was taken. You can't go back on it.
(23:35:45) <Nasir> Who has advertised it?
(23:36:29) <Miles`> advertised to both clans and it shortly afterwards was leaked
(23:36:33) <Nasir> We do not tell anything to anyone until a week before the war and then it's only between the members.
(23:37:05) <Nasir> Noone but my HC's and me know about it.
(23:37:24) <Miles`> no times or dates have gotten out and aslong as both clans hop properly we shudnt be crashed
(23:37:40) <Miles`> but regardless of motives shen and cordero applied after u confirmed ur screenie
(23:41:38) <Nasir> [00:37] <Nasir> Shen applied on 9th, it's only Cord we are talking about. I didn't really confirmed it, you came asking me if it was everything was correct and I said yes it looks good, then I wasn't able to screenshot yours till today which puts both clans in the same position when comes to not allowing new members in the war.
(23:43:33) <Miles`> I clearly said here is your memberlist, screenshot mine and we'll be fine. you said you're busy and you'll do it tomorrow. that doesn't mean yours can be advanced forward a day...I trusted you not to recruit 2 of cwg's better players in that time. You can't expect me to accept it.
(23:44:12) <Nasir> You're still talking about recruiting, no one has recruited them... they applied on their own!
(23:45:00) <Miles`> You can't expect me to believe that you postpone screenshotting my memberlist one day then both of
them apply overnight coincedently.
(23:46:32) <Nasir> When did you take our ML's screenshots?
(23:47:04) <Nasir> Shen applied on 9th and Cordy applied today... they didn't applied together...
(23:47:21) <Miles`> Sunday at 0:00am i think i'll check
(23:47:30) <Miles`> at that point neither of them were on ur application page
(23:47:35) <Miles`> and u confirmed that page at the time
(23:49:01) <Miles`> This is the log of the chat we had. You clearly say no one from now on who isnt on those screenshots can play. I'm not going to allow anything different from that.
(23:49:04) <Nasir> The times on posts say 8th
(23:49:21) <Miles`> (23:48:20) <Miles`> http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/2416/041108232211jw5.png
(23:49:21) <Miles`> (23:48:36) <Miles`> http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/6096/041108232218bl6.png
(23:49:21) <Miles`> (23:49:06) <Miles`> http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/4321/041108232223bj1.png
(23:49:21) <Miles`> (23:49:57) <Miles`> http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/1364/041108232549fq9.png
(23:49:21) <Miles`> (23:50:26) <Miles`> That's all of them. If you can just say you agree I'll copy + paste all this into a thread for archiving.
(23:49:21) <Miles`> (23:50:59) <Miles`> Then screenshot similarly for me and I'll happily agree and u can do the same.
(23:49:21) <Miles`> (23:58:33) <Nasir> That looks good =P, I'll do the same and from today and forward no other people except the ones on ML right now are allowed in war.
(23:51:10) <Nasir> I understand, but Shen I believe Shen applied before I had confirmed this, I remember polling his app
(23:51:27) <Miles`> No. The screenshot is on there there is no shenron application
(23:51:51) <Miles`> http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/1364/041108232549fq9.png
(23:53:24) <Nasir> Ok then I won't make it confusing since I have already said we are not allowed to let anymore people in the war, not going to try to cheat or anything. So alright I won't let those in the war.
(23:54:18) <Miles`> Ok thank you. Everything is sorted now and I hope we can get back to the cw and not argue. Last time the war was done with a good level of communication between the clans. It would be a shame to ruin it.
(23:55:13) <Nasir> Exactly, that's why I'll not try to argue over these now =). I'll be talking to you when we near the war then =P
(23:55:55) <Miles`> Oh and one last thing I'd like to add to the rules. Brian mentioned it and didnt want to forget it
(23:56:34) <Nasir> Sure, what is it?
(23:57:26) <Miles`> I'm sure this goes without saying but you'll make sure no one goes on other people's accounts for the war. If we suspect anything like random people begin outclicking anyone we'll have to ask questions. but I'm sure you wouldn't do that. It's happened when we played s4l once and cord and shen went on their accounts. Just making sure it doesn't happen again.
(23:58:18) <Nasir> No don't worry I will not allow such things.
(23:58:37) <Miles`> Thanks I'm sure that wouldn't be an issue. See you in a few weeks.
(23:58:56) <Nasir> See you, take care.

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He clearly agrees to rules 2 times. Oh and btw as u can read he refused to close his apps so it was his idea to come with the ml screenshots not mine. And btw :P I tried to get him to screenshot mine wen I screenshotted his but he refused (I wonder why? To maybe recruit Shen and cord overnight and then try to get them to play?? OH guess what happened yessss he did recruit shen and cord to play and I got a pm on irc the very next day...strange that eh...)
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(23:20:37) <Miles`> Our policy with full out wars is to close the applications till war it prevents mass recruiting and stuff

nice policy

13 new members gl!

it doesnt matter if he screenied it or not u went against ur written policy idiot
RIP Z4L, best clan ever.
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READ IT. THATS THE POLICY I WANTED AND NASIR REFUSED SAYING HE DIDN TWANNA CLOSE APPS. SO WE AGREED TO ONLY LET THOSE ON SCREENSHOTS PLAY BUT THOSE WHO APPLIED AFTER THAT NIGHT COULDNT. WOW I LOV U GUYS TYYYY

(23:58:33) <Nasir> That looks good =P, I'll do the same and from today and forward no other people except the ones on ML right now are allowed in war.
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No, you said it's YOUR policy, not theirs. Clans have different policies, that's what makes them unique, just because someone doesn't have the same as you doesn't mean shit you fucking idiot.
RIP Z4L, best clan ever.
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Hahahahah i bet uve never been in a full out before. If u had u'd know ppl close apps. And flaming me saying that closing apps is a bad idea has no relevance - cos we both agreed not to do it. So where is ur argument heading? If u even have one. Flaming me doesn't make u right sry
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Nov 16 2008, 11:13 AM
Flaming me doesn't make u right sry

Flaming nasir/100p doesn't make you right either.


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Durza51
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Clans don't close apps every time, and seeing as you've only been in CwF in your whole life, I'd say you have little to no experience with other clans 'policies' and like I said you said in that quote it's your clans policy, and you threw it out, another reason why CwF sucks now, they don't stick with anything, they try to bend all the rules worse then CwP.

And I've probably been to more full outs then you, tbh.
Btw, please tell me where I said closing it is a bad idea? I didn't I said you shouldn't be a fickle moron and you should stick to your own policies whether they do or not, it's what makes clans unique, dumbass.
RIP Z4L, best clan ever.
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Lol! You've now shown everyone that you have no valid argument so you're just back to flaming Cwf. Fun fun fun. Now then Durza thanks for playing along but unfortunately in order to make sure we warred 100p I decided to be reasonable and make a comprimise. So actually I've proved Cwf are reasonable...not that we suck.
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Durza51
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Nov 16 2008, 04:18 PM
Lol! You've now shown everyone that you have no valid argument so you're just back to flaming Cwf. Fun fun fun. Now then Durza thanks for playing along but unfortunately in order to make sure we warred 100p I decided to be reasonable and make a comprimise. So actually I've proved Cwf are reasonable...not that we suck.

Are you retarded? The whole argument is that CwF is a joke now, you say something is your policy then you go and recruit 13 more people.

CwF are reasonable, LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL.
RIP Z4L, best clan ever.
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"kk i got urs alrdy so dw we wont be accepting anyone else overnight but incase we do i'd screenie"

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