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Lesbians, Gays, Bis, Trannies and Queers...
Topic Started: May 22 2008, 06:44 PM (336 Views)
Ultimate Danny
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At least thats what I thought all the categories of fags were. An angry Lesbian a few days ago told me instead of Queer its "Questioning".

WTF? Thats even more insulting, and queer is such an appropriate word :p Also how are you questioning, you'd have to be in a total state of not wanting sex because you wouldn't know what to fuck :confused: It boggles the mind how thats even possible. Also why are Trannies even listed? If your a trannie, you are a different sex, that doesn't mean you only fuck other trannies :no:

What are your thoughts on how fucked up the queer community is?
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Jengal
Don't slander me you bully ;-(

Lol..

Wtf 8D
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Toxin
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:confused: questioning? Isn't that the period between straight and gay?
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I think all humans are annoying and destructive. ;D
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Revan46
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Shh...don't wake the baby. CRAP IT'S AWAKE, RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!

Actually the proper terms now are
Lesbian
Gay
Bisexual
Transgender
Transsexual
Queer
Two Spirited
Questioning
Intersexuality
Asexuality

:) A lot don't you think?
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Revan46
Feb 10 2009, 11:18 PM
Actually the proper terms now are
Lesbian
Gay
Bisexual
Transgender
Transsexual
Queer
Two Spirited
Questioning
Intersexuality
Asexuality

:) A lot don't you think?
Showed this to the gay guy in my anthro class. He said that's bullshit :confused:
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Immortal Beloved
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Honestly, I too find this offensive... I myself am bisexual, though I do lean more one way than the other. Though I respect that there are many issues that could be seen as unpleasant that people wish to discuss, it can be done without using some of those more offensive terms. As Revan stated, those are, indeed, the correct terms, and any shortening of them is akin to a racial slur. We don't like it any more than people of different races do. I will not use the terms I refer to here, as that just spreads the problem, but all one must do is look to WWII and what happened with many of those here in the US who were from one of the opposing countries [whether they themselves were, or were only descended, it's still the same].... those terms spread the wrong feelings that any community of people will want. You wouldn't want to be singled out for your race, or your religion, so why should you single people out for their sexual preferences? Just a thought.
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Immortal Beloved well said Though I am not The samurai of japan had no problem sleeping with men and sometimes preferred it they often grabbed a kabuki actor or something. Hell if i remember correctly thy saw it more honorable to sleep with some who has bled and killed beside you.


DISCLAIMER:I am not Gay I just support their right to do as they wish
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Shh...don't wake the baby. CRAP IT'S AWAKE, RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!

Toxin
Feb 11 2009, 12:45 AM
Revan46
Feb 10 2009, 11:18 PM
Actually the proper terms now are
Lesbian
Gay
Bisexual
Transgender
Transsexual
Queer
Two Spirited
Questioning
Intersexuality
Asexuality

:) A lot don't you think?
Showed this to the gay guy in my anthro class. He said that's bullshit :confused:
Haha he's the one who's bullshit and obviously doesn't know how expansive it is. He obviously is quite uneducated :)
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Shh...don't wake the baby. CRAP IT'S AWAKE, RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!

Miyamoto Musashi
Feb 11 2009, 02:35 AM
Immortal Beloved well said Though I am not The samurai of japan had no problem sleeping with men and sometimes preferred it they often grabbed a kabuki actor or something. Hell if i remember correctly thy saw it more honorable to sleep with some who has bled and killed beside you.


DISCLAIMER:I am not Gay I just support their right to do as they wish
Actually in Ancient Greece it was also similar to this. They found that if you are fighting alongside your lover (since in Ancient Greece, women did not battle) you would fight harder to protect him and survive to be with him another day. Now this was before Ancient Rome when it was banned, so go figure. You introduce religion and everything changes >_>
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Revan46
Feb 11 2009, 06:54 PM
Miyamoto Musashi
Feb 11 2009, 02:35 AM
Immortal Beloved well said Though I am not The samurai of japan had no problem sleeping with men and sometimes preferred it they often grabbed a kabuki actor or something. Hell if i remember correctly thy saw it more honorable to sleep with some who has bled and killed beside you.


DISCLAIMER:I am not Gay I just support their right to do as they wish
Actually in Ancient Greece it was also similar to this. They found that if you are fighting alongside your lover (since in Ancient Greece, women did not battle) you would fight harder to protect him and survive to be with him another day. Now this was before Ancient Rome when it was banned, so go figure. You introduce religion and everything changes >_>
Yes I did forget to mention that I guess thats why Greeks were such bad ass fighters and warriors they wanted to protect their booty calls. Ah well samurai were bout the same actually. ^_^;
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Your not born different. You are raised that way.
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Feb 11 2009, 06:52 PM
Toxin
Feb 11 2009, 12:45 AM
Revan46
Feb 10 2009, 11:18 PM
Actually the proper terms now are
Lesbian
Gay
Bisexual
Transgender
Transsexual
Queer
Two Spirited
Questioning
Intersexuality
Asexuality

:) A lot don't you think?
Showed this to the gay guy in my anthro class. He said that's bullshit :confused:
Haha he's the one who's bullshit and obviously doesn't know how expansive it is. He obviously is quite uneducated :)
Cody's actually a friend of mine, and believe me, he's quite well educated. He explained to me that he resents the fact that people feel as if gay people need to be chopped up, categorized, and filed away like specimens in jars, and that people who aren't gay but think they know all about it and explain it in great detail (much like yourself) are incredibly ignorant. :| That doesn't sound as funny as it did when he told me cus his flippy accent is the bomb heh
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Toxin FYI... Revan IS gay... ^.^ He knows what he's on about.
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Oh, ok, so when fifty cent calls black people niggers, that means that all black people must accept that they are to be called niggers by each other, just cus another black man said it? Sure, that makes alot of sense :colbert:

EDIT: :harbl:
Edited by Toxin, Feb 12 2009, 01:13 PM.
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Couple of comments to add to this....

Firstly, let's keep the childish bickering out of this and keep this mature, people. This can be a perfectly rational discussion until you start throwing opinions in other peoples' faces. It's one thing to state an opinion, quite another to be overly sarcastic about it. You can make a point without getting unpleasant. Nor should OTHER words be brought into play here. Doesn't matter, it's still a slur, and it doesn't belong on these forums any more than those at the start of this thread[and in the title] do.

Secondly, it's not proven one way or the other if you're born different or raised that way.... and throwing that in there is akin to forcing your beliefs down someone's throat. Unless you've got HUGE amounts of proof to back that up, no go. [And no, there isn't a lot of proof, one way or the other, so it's all subjective.] If you're going to bring that up, you must state that it's your opinion only.

I am educated as well, and though that can come into play, it's not something that needs be brought up when trying to state something that was said to you by another. It makes it sound like you're saying that because he's educated the rest of us must not be, even though we've conducted ourselves in a much more mature and reasonable manner. *shrug* Just a thought there.

Some in our community just don't like that there are more than a few words for us out there. Honestly, if you knew [and he knew] what some of those words meant, there'd be no need to become offended. [By some of them, at least.]

Lesbian
Gay
Bisexual -- These first three are commonplace and have been used for ages. Sorry, but it's not likely to change, and many actually encourage them.

Transgender -- This is NOT, contrary to popular belief, a lifestyle choice. It is a recognized disability, and has been in the DSM for quite some time. It is, in essence, someone who's brain and mind were hardwired to be the opposite gender of their body. And before any of you try to argue this, I was originally going to be a regular psychologist before changing my major. Believe me, I know all about this stuff.

Transsexual -- Not necessarily someone with a so called 'alternative' lifestyle. [I so hate words like that. Just because it's DIFFERENT from what most people see as normal doesn't mean it's alternative. It's just different, that's all.] These are men [and women] who dress up in the opposite gender's clothing. There's a stereotype of them on screen and elsewhere in the media, but it's quite wrong. Again, this is something studied in psychology [and not the beginning courses, mind] and this is the correct definition of it. Many are not gay or bisexual, or whatever, but are actually straight.

Queer -- I will admit this one irritates me more than a bit.... Nuff said.

Asexuality -- This is someone who doesn't want and isn't interested in EITHER. I've known a few of these people. It isn't really a choice so much as something different in the chemical make up of the body.

With all the above that I've given longer descriptions on, I can and will quote sources and find them if needed. Suffice it to say, they aren't really just terms for those who prefer someone of the same sex. They are terms for many different things, but all, due to our society, have been grouped into one category, whether they like it or not. Rather than fight with that, I'll say, yes, those are the correct terms. Shortening them is akin to a slur, as I stated before, and shouldn't be done.

So there you have it. I'm sticking around this thread as I feel that it needs a few of us with a more level headed approach. Revan and Miyamoto for example, have been having a reasonable and rational discussion rather than descending into bashing of others or childish bickering. Please people, if you're going to discuss things, take a moment to write out what you're thinking, make sure it's not going to inflame the already touchy subject... re-read what you've got, and then post it.
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