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Who would (or are) you voting for?; Hillary or Obama
Topic Started: Jan 9 2008, 03:47 PM (215 Views)
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I really don't know who'd I pick since I'm to young to vote I just hope who ever gets picked will do a good job and won't get us freakin' bombed.
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Holy shit!

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Jan 9 2008, 06:04 PM
I agree with Jeff, this is even worse than the last election.
And yeah, it's a bit unfair that the only two choices are just the two popular democrat candidates. :p

I agree with Legions, horrible!! this is gonna be a sucky 4 years boys, girls, and anything else that comes on to this site. But if I could vote I would vote for Hillary, then assassinate her for big bucks.Think about it, if she wins, I'm sure that someone would pay lots and lots of money for her death. I say that we go mob D.C., threaten congress, senate, reps., and the supreme court to get an amendment so you only have to be 18 to be prez, and elect TFE.
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Negro please.

Still hoping Clinton manages to pull this through, she's really got way more experience and Obama is too flimsy and conservative.
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Hell, I'd vote for Clinton just to ole Bill back in the white house. :D

Clinton may have more experience, but she made a big mistake with that Kosovo sniper story. then trying to deny embellishing her little war-story made the damage far worse. Now she looks very shifty. :sneaky:

Still i'm a Brit so I dont care which Democrat wins. After more than 5 years watching Tony Blair's sickening displays of toadying in return for ''influence''.(he got to choose which one Bush's arse-cheeks he could kiss first}
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Jan 26 2008, 10:46 PM
Still hoping Clinton manages to pull this through, she's really got way more experience and Obama is too flimsy and conservative.

Don't be a tard, Obama is more liberal than Clinton. He's just smart enough to present himself as if he isn't.
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Clinton. 100%.


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Negro please.

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Mar 26 2008, 04:07 AM
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Jan 26 2008, 10:46 PM
Still hoping Clinton manages to pull this through, she's really got way more experience and Obama is too flimsy and conservative.

Don't be a tard, Obama is more liberal than Clinton. He's just smart enough to present himself as if he isn't.

Give me a break, you tard, I don't care what you infer on his positions because you're his secret lover, I can only accept what he presents, and frankly I don't like what he presents.
But it seems like both Clinton and Obama are going to screw each other anyway, so whatever.
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Mar 27 2008, 11:53 AM
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Jan 26 2008, 10:46 PM
Still hoping Clinton manages to pull this through, she's really got way more experience and Obama is too flimsy and conservative.

Don't be a tard, Obama is more liberal than Clinton. He's just smart enough to present himself as if he isn't.

Give me a break, you tard, I don't care what you infer on his positions because you're his secret lover, I can only accept what he presents, and frankly I don't like what he presents.
But it seems like both Clinton and Obama are going to screw each other anyway, so whatever.

One: Clinton can't win. It's 99% impossible. She'll have to win every state here on in a landslide.
Two: I actually READ sources. Obama has the same positions, he's just willing to be bipartisan. Oh noez for getting things done ;(
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Negro please.

A Papaya
Mar 28 2008, 04:23 AM
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Mar 27 2008, 11:53 AM
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Mar 26 2008, 04:07 AM
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Jan 26 2008, 10:46 PM
Still hoping Clinton manages to pull this through, she's really got way more experience and Obama is too flimsy and conservative.

Don't be a tard, Obama is more liberal than Clinton. He's just smart enough to present himself as if he isn't.

Give me a break, you tard, I don't care what you infer on his positions because you're his secret lover, I can only accept what he presents, and frankly I don't like what he presents.
But it seems like both Clinton and Obama are going to screw each other anyway, so whatever.

One: Clinton can't win. It's 99% impossible. She'll have to win every state here on in a landslide.
Two: I actually READ sources. Obama has the same positions, he's just willing to be bipartisan. Oh noez for getting things done ;(

Getting things done? Give me a freaking break, you can use that same arguement for McCain's flipflopping. That's not "getting things done" or "bipartisan peace offering", it's a lack of integrity and strength, it's pathetic pandering to independents or others by switching or sacrificing positions. I've had enough of weak pandering Democrats.
And you totally overexaggerate the "impossibility" of a Clinton victory. True it's unlikely, but it's not impossible and 99% is a pretty retarded view. I'd say 60% unlikely.
Obama is really just nice cliched optimism in a suit, offering vague maxims and hip cliches to vanilla centralists or retarded young people. I'd rather take someone with substance and experience rather than someone who spouts nice flowery speeches and "YES WE CAN"s. I know what we're getting with Hillary, but with Obama christ knows, he seems to be offering himself up as a Utopian saint.

Anyway, anyone's better than McCain at least.
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Mar 27 2008, 08:42 PM
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Jan 26 2008, 10:46 PM
Still hoping Clinton manages to pull this through, she's really got way more experience and Obama is too flimsy and conservative.

Don't be a tard, Obama is more liberal than Clinton. He's just smart enough to present himself as if he isn't.

Give me a break, you tard, I don't care what you infer on his positions because you're his secret lover, I can only accept what he presents, and frankly I don't like what he presents.
But it seems like both Clinton and Obama are going to screw each other anyway, so whatever.

One: Clinton can't win. It's 99% impossible. She'll have to win every state here on in a landslide.
Two: I actually READ sources. Obama has the same positions, he's just willing to be bipartisan. Oh noez for getting things done ;(

Getting things done? Give me a freaking break, you can use that same arguement for McCain's flipflopping. That's not "getting things done" or "bipartisan peace offering", it's a lack of integrity and strength, it's pathetic pandering to independents or others by switching or sacrificing positions. I've had enough of weak pandering Democrats.
And you totally overexaggerate the "impossibility" of a Clinton victory. True it's unlikely, but it's not impossible and 99% is a pretty retarded view. I'd say 60% unlikely.
Obama is really just nice cliched optimism in a suit, offering vague maxims and hip cliches to vanilla centralists or retarded young people. I'd rather take someone with substance and experience rather than someone who spouts nice flowery speeches and "YES WE CAN"s. I know what we're getting with Hillary, but with Obama christ knows, he seems to be offering himself up as a Utopian saint.

Anyway, anyone's better than McCain at least.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/119010
Yeah.

Also, I'd rather have flipflopping than a stalemate. That aside, being bipartisan isn't flipflopping. It's sacrificing to build consensus in order to push forward a broader goal than one bill.
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Negro please.

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Mar 28 2008, 04:51 AM
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Mar 27 2008, 08:42 PM
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Mar 27 2008, 11:53 AM
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Mar 26 2008, 04:07 AM
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Jan 26 2008, 10:46 PM
Still hoping Clinton manages to pull this through, she's really got way more experience and Obama is too flimsy and conservative.

Don't be a tard, Obama is more liberal than Clinton. He's just smart enough to present himself as if he isn't.

Give me a break, you tard, I don't care what you infer on his positions because you're his secret lover, I can only accept what he presents, and frankly I don't like what he presents.
But it seems like both Clinton and Obama are going to screw each other anyway, so whatever.

One: Clinton can't win. It's 99% impossible. She'll have to win every state here on in a landslide.
Two: I actually READ sources. Obama has the same positions, he's just willing to be bipartisan. Oh noez for getting things done ;(

Getting things done? Give me a freaking break, you can use that same arguement for McCain's flipflopping. That's not "getting things done" or "bipartisan peace offering", it's a lack of integrity and strength, it's pathetic pandering to independents or others by switching or sacrificing positions.
And you totally overexaggerate the "impossibility" of a Clinton victory. True it's unlikely, but it's not impossible and 99% is a pretty retarded view. I'd say 60% unlikely.
Obama is really just nice cliched optimism in a suit, offering vague maxims and hip cliches to vanilla centralists or retarded young people. I'd rather take someone with substance and experience rather than someone who spouts nice flowery speeches and "YES WE CAN"s. I know what we're getting with Hillary, but with Obama christ knows, he seems to be offering himself up as a Utopian saint.

Anyway, anyone's better than McCain at least.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/119010
Yeah.

Also, I'd rather have flipflopping than a stalemate. That aside, being bipartisan isn't flipflopping. It's sacrificing to build consensus in order to push forward a broader goal than one bill.

OMG NEWSWEEK LINK MAKES TRUTH.
I could also probably cite some other tool equally as credible with an exactly opposite line of logic. You're pretty much a naive fucktard if you're calling any political election as definite or over 90%, even now with the Hillary-Obama situation it wouldn't be safe to definitely call it even all the way to the convention.
If you think politics is an exact mathematical logic or science you're quite naive, if numbers really counted we'd have President Al Gore. It isn't usually but now it is? Makes a lot of sense. :p

Yeah, Clinton probably won't win though. Probably. And I'd rather have Pandering Flipflopping Saint Obama than Incontinent Falwell-Loving Soulless McCain...But still, don't turn this into some fucking Kucinich vs. Obama shit, that's just foolish.

And your definition of bipartisan is really just a nice attempt at Victorian euphemism. Nice Obama doublespeak, sacrifice what really matter so you can agree on what doesn't really and so you're pandering and can get independent blowjobs. I've had enough of weak pandering Democrats. Yes, sometimes there needs to be bipartisan consensus, but sometimes you have to stand for wing. For too long the left wing has been flimsy, pandering, and "bipartisan" flipfloppy while the Republicans rarely ever try bipartisan politics and when they do they eventually turn into soulless automatons like John McCain anyway. You're like the naive people who actually liked the idea of a Kerry/McCain ticket. Word to the wise: Just because they're complete assholes 80% of the time instead of the usual 100%, they're not actually your best buddy.
I'd rather have someone who can actually keep their positions and principles for longer than a fucking year. :rolleyes: I'd rather know what I'm getting rather than being a total tool and making guesswork trying to filter through the random doublespeak and nice cliched flower optimism compartmentalized for youth tools and vanilla independents.
In essence, I'd rather take the boat over the fucking mystery box. Oh wait, THERE MIGHT BE A BOAT IN THE MYSTERY BOX. :o


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