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Bastard Mod Mafia SCUM/SURVIVOR WIN; Game Over, Insert Coins to Continue
Topic Started: Jan 7 2008, 07:57 PM (4,186 Views)
Annorax


ALIVE
RedBldSandman, Mafia Roleblocker
teh_pimp, Mafia Mason Infiltrator

blah, Survivor


NOT SO ALIVE:
Ultimate Danny, Sane Cop (Lynched)
Cloud Kasumi Akane, Mason (Cum soaked face)
Greasy Spot, Quack Doctor (suicide)
Desyphur, Masturbator (Lynched)
Jeff, Mason (Lynched)
piano rock, Insane Cop (Nightkilled)
Master Senax, Naive Cop (Lynched)

TFE, Poison Serial Killer (Nightkilled)
Qw!, Reflecting Townie (Lynched)
Iceforge, Mafia Godfather (Delayed poison effect)

A Papaya, Doctor (Nightkilled)
At Any Cost, Paranoid Cop (Endgamed)


GAME OVER
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Ultimate Danny
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Well at least you didn't vote for me :/ I still think we need to learn the lesson of Iceforge's mafia and wait until some move has been made by the scum now that we are suspicious of AAC and Qw!.

If nobody is with me than I guess I'll jump the bandwagon and lynch Qw!.
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Ultimate Danny
Jan 10 2008, 01:44 AM
Well at least you didn't vote for me :/ I still think we need to learn the lesson of Iceforge's mafia and wait until some move has been made by the scum now that we are suspicious of AAC and Qw!.

If nobody is with me than I guess I'll jump the bandwagon and lynch Qw!.

UD you have to understand that in Iceforge's game we had 7 players and only two mafia amongst them. thats 5 on 2. once they fucked up the first day and killed a townie the next day became LYLO. Here it's different. We have 15 players in this game....i'm guessing 3-4 maf. So we can risk that shot on D1. its a completely different game here.

And I am going to VOTE: RedBldSandman

His jumping on the coat tails of AAC over a fairly innocent asking of our expectations on "Bastard Mafia" seemed kinda suspicious. And after voting him he tried to push the lynch on AAC more.

RedBldSandman
Jan 9 2008, 09:58 AM
I think AAC is just trying to hide now, staying on that he's a townie but actually mafia. Am i taking that too far or do some of you agree? He's the only person who I think seems suspicious at this point anyway.


Also a FOS: Qw! for simply jumping on the attack of AAC without much thought and a simply agreement and because his posts mainly consist of a Quote and then barely even a sentence. not a whole lot of contributing.


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Murray, Bill

EBWODP: also on the Qw! thing. the lack of post depth gives off a lurker vibe. He is still posting often...just not with much to say.

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Iceforge
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Just to add to it, even through I know it is offtopic, but in my mafia, with 7 people, 5 of them town and 2 mafia, doing no lynch on day 1 would still give LyLo unless the doctor protects the right person, as 2 nightkills (night 1 and 2) and 1 wrong lynch = 3 townies dead = 2 town - 2 mafia = mafia win. That is without taking into consideration the possibility of the cop investigating the right person or doc protecting right through, but in C9 (what I did) you aren't guaranteed a cop nor doc.

But to get back ontopic, I think all three of them (Qw!, AAC and RedBldSandman) are sending off some scum tells like most here also seem to think as I gather, I just get the strongest scum vibe from Qw!, so sticking to my vote
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Qw!


Ok...Clearly I screwed up back there and i'm not quite sure how. I'm also not trying to be a lurker btw.

I agreed with the AAC argument because I thought it was strange that comment he made is all.

Iceforge i'd like you to say why you are voting for me, if you have anything more than gut instinct.

Some of you are wanting to bandwagon me, so please if it gets to L-1 wait for me to claim.

Thnx for that comment about my name btw, UD. You're name is just so magnificant I wish i'd have thought of it when I signed up.
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A Papaya
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I think Iceforge and UD are scummbuddying. Really, are we letting UD off of a No Lynch vote that easily? However, I think Iceforge is more dangerous.

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RedBldSandman
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Ohhhhh YEAH!

piano rock
Jan 10 2008, 09:07 AM
And I am going to VOTE: RedBldSandman

His jumping on the coat tails of AAC over a fairly innocent asking of our expectations on "Bastard Mafia" seemed kinda suspicious. And after voting him he tried to push the lynch on AAC more.

I'm not pursuing the AAC scum idea because he asked about the expectations. Its the way AAC made it clear he's not a vanilla townie. Surely that would draw attention by the mafia! That means that either: AAC has a role and will now have to be protected or he is mafia and knows that he's safe from them.

I believe its the latter, but I put forward the other option to open some discussion so that we could see if the "AAC is scum" idea works or there are reasons that it doesn't. If someone else came up with a valid reason which explained it all or made it more likely that he's a townie, I'd drop it. However, atm no-one has done so and AAC seems the most suspicious (in my opinion).

AtAnyCost
Jan 9 2008, 05:37 PM


Ok, let me ramble for a second or two. Your assumption here is that I'm trying to hide because anyone stupid enough to cop to the fact that they've got a role would immediately draw the ire of the mob. My assumption is that we all have roles. If my assumption holds then admitting that does nothing to set me out in the scheme of things from every other townie.

Your argument is based on the premise of vanilla townies existing. The only way you'd be in a position to know that for certain would be if you were one yourself. Given how reluctant I am to believe that that kind of role would exist in this kind of game. Given that, you are either a rolled townie or someone who wants everyone to think they're bland, nonthreatening, townies. Given the effort your putting into this I'm more inclined to believe the two of you are scum.


I believe that your assumption that everybody has roles may hold up but you could have been mafia and still made this assumption. A plan to make yourself look like a roled townie, which some people now do, which protects you from lynch as we do not want to get rid of a roled townie.

I'm not arguing that there may or may not be vanilla townies, it is quite likely your correct. However, I believe that you said this in order, again I say it, to make yourself look like a townie with a role and protect yourself from the lynch.


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Iceforge
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Qw!
Jan 10 2008, 03:33 PM
Ok...Clearly I screwed up back there and i'm not quite sure how. I'm also not trying to be a lurker btw.

I agreed with the AAC argument because I thought it was strange that comment he made is all.

Iceforge i'd like you to say why you are voting for me, if you have anything more than gut instinct.

Some of you are wanting to bandwagon me, so please if it gets to L-1 wait for me to claim.

Thnx for that comment about my name btw, UD. You're name is just so magnificant I wish i'd have thought of it when I signed up.

Hmm, this is strange. Trying to argue back, I noticed that the reason AAC gave that made me voted for you, didn't really apply to you. I could not find any of your posts that fitted into that kind of posting as claimed. However, AAC's own posts did and I feel he tricked me, so while I don't like to flip flop on my vote;

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A Papaya
Jan 10 2008, 05:30 PM
I think Iceforge and UD are scummbuddying. Really, are we letting UD off of a No Lynch vote that easily? However, I think Iceforge is more dangerous.

FoS: Iceforge and UD

Yeah, I am, because the No Lynch is not always a bad idea, if you look at it purely statistically speaking. I am not a fan of it, as I like the information voting gives, even if it is a townie that dies. And another reason I feel no lynch is not a good option here is that we don't know how many nightkills there is going to be, so can't do math on it
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Iceforge
Jan 10 2008, 11:28 AM
I feel he tricked me, so while I don't like to flip flop on my vote;

Whoseajibawha? How'd I manage that one?
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I'm not pursuing the AAC scum idea because he asked about the expectations. Its the way AAC made it clear he's not a vanilla townie.

Ok I'm going to go through my little theory one more time. None of us, as in 'teh good guys,' are vanilla townies.
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Surely that would draw attention by the mafia!

If my assumption is correct then it wont. One roled towny wouldn't stand out from a crowd of other roled townies.
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That means that either: AAC has a role and will now have to be protected or he is mafia and knows that he's safe from them.

See the above answer, if my assumption holds then the mafia's going to suffer from target saturation and I wont need a medic more then any other townie.
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A plan to make yourself look like a roled townie, which some people now do, which protects you from lynch as we do not want to get rid of a roled townie.

I only wish I could come up with something so convoluted.
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@AAC - Your whole argument is based on the premise that vanilla townies don't exist. Yes, I did almost copy your sentence from a page or two back. I don't think it means that much though

@Qw! - You seem confident that a mafia won't hammer you at L-1. I'm pretty sure the only way you'd feel this is if you were mafia as well. Hence the vote below.

If not already, Unvote, Vote:Qw! I hope that wasn't the hammer.

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blah628
Jan 10 2008, 12:44 PM
@AAC - Your whole argument is based on the premise that vanilla townies don't exist. Yes, I did almost copy your sentence from a page or two back. I don't think it means that much though

@Qw! - You seem confident that a mafia won't hammer you at L-1. I'm pretty sure the only way you'd feel this is if you were mafia as well. Hence the vote below.

If not already, Unvote, Vote:Qw! I hope that wasn't the hammer.

It is generally convention to wait for defense when someone is at L-1. And my making that comment would make anyone who did hammer me without waiting look scummy enough probably to be lynched the next day, so mafia also probably wouldn't do it.
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But noobs might. ;-)

Where I used to play, it was generally L-2 to wait for a defense. Going to L-1 without a defense usually made the people think the person who made it L-1 was setting up a hammer.

Going to L-1 is usually pretty risky, even if a hammer is basically committing suicide. Besides, you didn't have to make that comment about waiting for a defense. A hammerer would look scummy anyways and all you seemed to do is over-protect yourself, in my eyes.

Also, you said you "screwed up back there" earlier. It sounds kind of like you blew your cover.

My vote remains until we find something more suspicious
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@AAC: The mafia don't know if there are vanilla townies or there aren't. However, you've made it clear your not a vanilla townie and therefore they'll know that if they take you out they've got a roled townie out of the way.

However, I think it more likely that you are mafia and have tried to trick us, knowing the mafia won't come for you and therefore can risk pretending to be a role.


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I'm sorry Sandman, but I just don't see AAC being scum in this particular game. He has said nothing to incriminate himself in my eyes without proper explanation. Therefore, I'm going to vote: Qw!
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