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Bastard Mod Mafia SCUM/SURVIVOR WIN; Game Over, Insert Coins to Continue
Topic Started: Jan 7 2008, 07:57 PM (4,175 Views)
Annorax


ALIVE
RedBldSandman, Mafia Roleblocker
teh_pimp, Mafia Mason Infiltrator

blah, Survivor


NOT SO ALIVE:
Ultimate Danny, Sane Cop (Lynched)
Cloud Kasumi Akane, Mason (Cum soaked face)
Greasy Spot, Quack Doctor (suicide)
Desyphur, Masturbator (Lynched)
Jeff, Mason (Lynched)
piano rock, Insane Cop (Nightkilled)
Master Senax, Naive Cop (Lynched)

TFE, Poison Serial Killer (Nightkilled)
Qw!, Reflecting Townie (Lynched)
Iceforge, Mafia Godfather (Delayed poison effect)

A Papaya, Doctor (Nightkilled)
At Any Cost, Paranoid Cop (Endgamed)


GAME OVER
INSERT 40 QUARTERS TO CONTINUE
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Qw!


TFE Magnus
Jan 20 2008, 09:29 PM
Okay, that seems cool...I guess I'll take your word for it, since we'd just lynch you the next day if you did masturbate.

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Yeh that sounds good with me.

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Plus I don't think i'm in any danger of dying that way.
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Iceforge
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I don't see why that is a good idea? If we don't lynch The Lich today, we only got his word that he won't masturbate.

The scenario if we don't lynch The Lich today.
Worst Case scenario: Townie lynched today, the Lich masturbates/kills during the night, mafia kills during night and we got to kill The Lich tomorrow and he shows up townie = 4 townies dead
Best Case scenario: We lynch scum today, The lich dies during the night, and the mafia kills during the night = 1 scum down, 2 townies down
Most likely best scenario: We lynch townie today, The lich dies during the night, the mafia kills during the night = 3 townies dead (The chance of hitting a scum today is pretty low without a night kill to give us info)

The scenario if we do lynch The Lich today.
Worst Case scenario: The Lich turns up townie, mafia kills during night = 2 townies dead
Best Case scenario: The Lich turns up scum, mafia kills during the night = 1 scum down, 1 townie down
Most likely best scenario: The Lich turns up townie (unfortunate) and mafia kills during the night = 2 townies dead

The worst case is better if we lynch The Lich, the best case is better if we lynch The Lich and the most likely best is better if we kill The Lich.

But somehow he got you all retracting your votes on him thinking it is a good idea to let him live through day 2...
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blah628


actually, if you reread the story, it says that he only kills an inactive person, not the most inactive person. Kasumi was inactive. So is Senax, so chances are if The Lich did masturbate in the night, then Senax would die.
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TFE Magnus
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Negro please.

I guess you have a point Iceforge, if you think we can't trust Lich or something...Maybe we can't take his word for it. Maybe we do need to take him out immediately.
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blah628


yeah, I suppose

However, if he keeps his word, it helps, and there's a greater chance for him to hit scum than before, so I'm not sure what to do.
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Iceforge
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TFE Magnus
Jan 21 2008, 03:54 PM
I guess you have a point Iceforge, if you think we can't trust Lich or something...Maybe we can't take his word for it. Maybe we do need to take him out immediately.

Well, the point wasn't just if we can't trust him. It is more that even if we can trust him, I don't think letting him live improves anything, as it then just leads to more townies dying than if we just lynch him.

I guess it depends if you think the odds are good for hitting a scum today or not, really. If our chance of hitting scum by hitting someone else than The Lich are good, it would be worth it to have The Lich commit suicide tonight. But as we got no nightkill to give us information and we got very little to go on right now, I think we will just end up hitting town again. Then it would be Town lynched, and if The Lich suicides, which shows he can be trusted, he is also town and the mafia is then no the lich and hence will kill a town as well, so thats 3 townies dead.
Killing him, we get 1 townie(perhaps scum) dead, 2 if mafia nightkills, so thats 2 townies dead by the start of tomorrow and I think we will have more to work with then, unless the mafia don't nightkill, which then just will mean we are more townies left to deal with them.
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To summarize my view, it all depends on if you think the chance to hit scum today is great enough to risk 1 more townies life on it! And I just don't think the chance is that great.
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Qw!


Another thing to consider is, as Senax is almost certainly going to be the one that dies, it might be useful. If Lich is telling the truth, it clears out inactives and prevents mafia from submarining.

Lich, do you have any idea, if everyone is reasonably active one day, would you still kill?
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Desyphur
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I would kill yes. It would be random I assume.
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Meh, that's not much mafia skill, there were like, four people left other than you and you went: "IT'S ONE OF THOSE FOUR PEOPLE :argh: "
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TFE Magnus
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Negro please.

Qw!
Jan 21 2008, 06:46 PM
Another thing to consider is, as Senax is almost certainly going to be the one that dies, it might be useful. If Lich is telling the truth, it clears out inactives and prevents mafia from submarining.

Lich, do you have any idea, if everyone is reasonably active one day, would you still kill?

Yeah, but I still don't think of Lich as useful, he's a liability, and he'll kill inactive Townies...or he may be lying. I'd rather have an inactive townie than a dead one, that'll bring Mafia one step closer to winning. :/

Just depends, should we lynch Lich now or tomorrow?
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Desyphur
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There would be no need to lynch me tomorrow, as I'd be dead. Because I'd die tonight. I assume the Annorax killed Kasumi because it was more funny than killing senax.
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Meh, that's not much mafia skill, there were like, four people left other than you and you went: "IT'S ONE OF THOSE FOUR PEOPLE :argh: "
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Qw!


TFE Magnus
Jan 21 2008, 11:33 AM
Qw!
Jan 21 2008, 06:46 PM
Another thing to consider is, as Senax is almost certainly going to be the one that dies, it might be useful. If Lich is telling the truth, it clears out inactives and prevents mafia from submarining.

Lich, do you have any idea, if everyone is reasonably active one day, would you still kill?

Yeah, but I still don't think of Lich as useful, he's a liability, and he'll kill inactive Townies...or he may be lying. I'd rather have an inactive townie than a dead one, that'll bring Mafia one step closer to winning. :/

Just depends, should we lynch Lich now or tomorrow?

Could be inactive mafia though, and while he's inactive we have absolutley no way of finding out.

Inactives are no good for town.

Lich, I think you should masterbate tonight, to get rid of Senax. Then we can look at the situation tomorrow, and decide whether it's a good idea for you to masterbate or not. Your role is a self-sacrificial one, which is the bastard aspect of it. But for the moment I think it might be useful.
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piano rock
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But maybe Rax takes out people who don't post during a new day. And so far that's senax, RedBld, Teh_pimp, AAC, and Jeff. I don't think wasting a town ratio is a good idea at all even if they are inactive.

We can kill Lich or go after someone else randomly. But Lich is the only person we know of at the moment who can kill a town whether it be accidental or not.

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RedBldSandman
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Ohhhhh YEAH!

I agree with Iceforge. Taking out Lich means that less townies will be killed overall, we may hit a scum by chance if we go for someone else but we haven't got enough info. If we keep Lich alive it'll just be another night where we'll lose 2/3/4 townies and then we'll use our lynch the next day on him. If we kill him we lose 2 townies and have a lynch free for the next day!


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blah628


Iceforge
Jan 21 2008, 02:35 AM
Vote: The Lich

That story is ringing out of scum, specially as it is not true!

Your ability does NOT kill inactive people as you claim. It is possible Rax told you so, but it doesn't fit. Kasumi posted page 11, while Senax has not posted at all, yet Kasumi died.

I think we should get rid of the confirmed killer.

MOD: can you prod or replace Senax please?

How do you propose to know that for sure?

Vote:Iceforge, just for pressure.
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TFE Magnus
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Negro please.

piano rock
Jan 21 2008, 08:31 PM
But maybe Rax takes out people who don't post during a new day. And so far that's senax, RedBld, Teh_pimp, AAC, and Jeff. I don't think wasting a town ratio is a good idea at all even if they are inactive.

We can kill Lich or go after someone else randomly. But Lich is the only person we know of at the moment who can kill a town whether it be accidental or not.

Agreed with Iceforge and piano rock. Let's just get rid of him.



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