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Childhood Freedom; What happened to it?
Topic Started: Saturday, 1. December 2012, 22:05 (729 Views)
OsullivanB

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Sunday, 2. December 2012, 22:29
For all we know Jimmy Savile might have written the book "Benjamin Rabbit and the Stranger Danger" to give the impression he wanted children to be careful of strangers. Writing such a book made him look like the good guy who cared about children.

It would be helpful if children were not encouraged to hero worship "celebrities". The cult of the celebrity is akin to idol worship.
I am not so sure that children do hero-worship celebrities. Such idolatry seems to me to be more characteristic of adults. Unless you mean behaviour like boys trying to emulate the outstanding footballer of their choice, in which case today's Ronaldo is yesterday's Stanley Matthews.
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation." Herbert Spencer
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Seren

I'm just so grateful that my kids were surrounded with a good set of friends who turned up trumps when tragedy struck our family a few years back, and have supported us in their own way ever since, love them.
Yes, all is not well with an awful lot of kids nowadays, values are so different, but don't let it blind us to those who are absolute gems.
Edited by Seren, Tuesday, 4. December 2012, 17:49.
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Ocean Star

Great analysis of the summer of love of 60's and 70's Penfold spot on... You really have the gift of writing, you should do freelance journalism..I loved the Mary Hopkin youtube clip..I remembered the song straight away...These tunes were so catchy..The fashion then was epic!! Our days music is manufactured to please a certain audience! Not to mention miming!! Can you imagine this happening at a Pink Floyd concert? LOl..
Christine.
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Rose of York
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Tuesday, 4. December 2012, 05:52
I think it marvellous that we can all have different views and experience on the subject of childhood freedom and yet still cherish these hard times, though it may have been for many people but it seems to me people were happier in those days.
A lot of my friends lived in very harsh conditions. My parents were regarded as wealthy because they had housing of the standard people enjoy nowadays as standard. I saw the conditions in the back streets, they were a disgrace. Children and their parents were thankful when their situations improved. I doubt whether any of those who had to put up with the conditions Penfold described have happy memories of it. Not all people were happier. A married woman suffering cruelty would find it near impossible to get out to the situation, unless she was very well off. There was a sudden boom in divorces instigated by middle aged and elderly women in the seventies when the divorce laws gave them more rights regarding the family home. Some of those women had suffered for years, and their children witnessed the violence. It was usual to see women with black eyes in shopping streets. The cultural attitude then was that a man was entitled to a "few pints" with his mates after a day's work because he brought the money in. If his wife worked the same number of hours for the same employer she had to stay in and do the chores.

I think it is an illusion that people were happier in those days. Some were. Some were not.
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I was once in a conversation with priests and lay people and the priests mentioned that in an another city priests were often called-out because the husband was beating his wife but when the priest arrived the victim told the priest to go away!
Edited by Derekap, Wednesday, 5. December 2012, 12:08.
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PJD

Wasn't the Andy-Cap image more prelevant in the midlands and north; not so much so in this our sunny south. :wacko:

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The Andy Cap image may have been more prevalent in the North and Midlands than in the South, but abusive behaviour of men towards their wives was certainly not confined to those areas, or to manual workers. A family member was a journalist. For her weekly "womens column" she did some research and spoke to professionals dealing with women who suffered from such situations. She learned that violent highly educated husbands tended to hit their wives where they were able to hid the bruises, and her analysis of divorce reports in the newspaper that employed her showed that divorces for cruelty were as common amongst professionals as they were in production workers and labourers. In those days few of us were aware of husband bashing wives, so she did not, so far as I know, do any research about them.

The Andy Cap image may have been due to hats being based on "class" - bowlers for lawyers, bankers and town clerks, cloth caps for the working men, trilbies for those in between.
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Derekap
Wednesday, 5. December 2012, 12:05
I was once in a conversation with priests and lay people and the priests mentioned that in an another city priests were often called-out because the husband was beating his wife but when the priest arrived the victim told the priest to go away!
The police have the same experience to this day.

Domestic violence is a complex subject but it has nothing to do with class or geography.

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Seren

Domestic violence is a complex subject but it has nothing to do with class or geography

CARLO

Nothing complex about domestic violence, CARLO...
Like any other extreme form of bullying,
it's wrong!
Edited by Seren, Thursday, 6. December 2012, 16:12.
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