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| Topic Started: Thursday, 22. November 2012, 16:38 (331 Views) | |
| paul | Thursday, 22. November 2012, 16:38 Post #1 |
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I assume that the state of purgatory is also a process of enlightenment not only purging of one's sins. I am destined for purgatory and assume that all of the questions that I have posed on this forum will be answered definitely!! qed |
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| Gerard | Thursday, 22. November 2012, 17:31 Post #2 |
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Don't aim for purgatory - you might miss Gerry Edited by Gerard, Thursday, 22. November 2012, 17:33.
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| Rose of York | Thursday, 22. November 2012, 18:36 Post #3 |
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How do you know that? Negative person says "I am destined for purgatory" (or hell) Positive person says "I am destined to go straight to Heaven." Wise person does not know what he will get up between now and the hour of death, so cannot accurately forecast his destination (or stopping-off point) until he knows it for a fact, and then he's physically dead. Paul I assume you are still physically alive. If you are dead please advise members so we can do a prayer request for your soul.
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| paul | Thursday, 22. November 2012, 20:09 Post #4 |
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I would not be so presumptive and assume that I am going to heaven. It has nothing to do with being positive or negative, I am just being realistic and realise that on this earth I could never achieve the level of grace to get me through those pearly gates. Unfortunately, Rose I am still living, it was extremely nice of you to offer to pray for my soul in the event of my demise. Perhaps you might manage a few prayers for me as matters stand? I promise to remember you in my prayers now not after your death, isn't that a nice Christian approach? I believe Christ said that whoever believes in me will have eternal life. Perhaps that is heaven, or purgatory? |
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| Derekap | Friday, 23. November 2012, 14:01 Post #5 |
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Our Church doesn't teach that life in Purgatory is eternal. Anyone going there does eventually go to Heaven which is why we pray and offer Holy Mass for the souls who are there.
Edited by Derekap, Friday, 23. November 2012, 14:02.
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| CARLO | Tuesday, 11. December 2012, 23:20 Post #6 |
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I was always taught that there are flames in Purgatory but they are not as hot as the flames in hell! Salva nos Save us CARLO |
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| Deleted User | Wednesday, 12. December 2012, 00:16 Post #7 |
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My view --personal opinion--is that purgatory, hell and heaven are very clever and powerful parables to help us order our lives. To me it is obvious that they are not actual places and I don't believe that the Church expects us to believe literally in them as physical destinations. John |
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| Rose of York | Wednesday, 12. December 2012, 00:35 Post #8 |
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Very powerful indeed. They would be. The man who taught about them is God the Son. |
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| OsullivanB | Wednesday, 12. December 2012, 01:04 Post #9 |
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Fuelled from E.ONs? Were you taught what it is that they heat? |
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| CARLO | Thursday, 13. December 2012, 00:32 Post #10 |
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Yes - they heat the souls of those not yet ready to enter heaven. When they have suffered enough they may enter heaven. Prayers for the holy souls in Purgatory help to get them out faster. That's what I was taught. You asked! Veritas Truth CARLO
Edited by CARLO, Thursday, 13. December 2012, 00:33.
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| OsullivanB | Thursday, 13. December 2012, 00:36 Post #11 |
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It was, of course, at best, some kind of metaphor, at worst, nonsense. I hope you weren't always taught that. Surely when you went to big school they taught you better. |
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| Rose of York | Thursday, 13. December 2012, 01:07 Post #12 |
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I gather your school did not teach from the Penny Catechism! There is also a newer, much bigger catechism. Nowhere in either of them will you read that nonsense, and I guess you know there is nothing to say there is a physical fire. Anyway as souls are purely spirit it would take a funny kind of flame to burn them. Enough of this garbage! We have here an opportunity to teach casual browsers who really do want to understand Catholicism. The doctrine of Purgatory is explained in the Catechism of the Catholic Church. http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_P2N.HTM#1H
NB St Paul wrote "as through fire", he did not right "through fire". |
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| Derekap | Thursday, 13. December 2012, 11:38 Post #13 |
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Heaven may not be able to pay E ON much longer, if the charges increase at the present rate, so we may face an Antartic Purgatory. |
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| tomais | Thursday, 13. December 2012, 12:55 Post #14 |
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Omit any reference to Christianity and simply insert-pagan belief; then monitor the replies. The TV programme last night on Rome will be considerably upsetting to many,who were perhaps looking forward to s pot of purgatory. |
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| paul | Thursday, 13. December 2012, 17:24 Post #15 |
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my wife purges me of my sins daily!! |
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