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The Year of Faith
Topic Started: Thursday, 20. October 2011, 01:28 (595 Views)
Marts

We are Church have released a statement in reply to Benedict’s Chrism Mass homily.

The section on the Year of Faith has my full agreement:

Finally Benedict XVI asserted his full authority when he confirmed the "Note with pastoral guidelines for the
year of the faith" of January 6, signed by Cardinal Levada where he asserts that "the texts of the Second
Vatican Council and the 1992 Catechism of the Catholic Church are the essential tools that show us in an
authentic way what the Church believes, regarding the Word of God ".. We refute in toto this equivalence
between the authority of the Council and that of the Catechism, two qualitatively different sources, as we
have long said. The Year of the faith should be the time to resort to the spirit of Vatican II and its texts to
release the Church from its stagnation and to evangelize from the beginning of the third millenium.

Benedict knows that a Council is much more authoritative than a Catechism so it is clear he prefers the CCC to the Council. How sad.
He is asking priests to be obedient, perhaps he should lead by example and acknowledge the authority of the Council.

Read the statement: http://www.we-are-church.org.uk/pdf/PR_8Abr2012.pdf
Jesus told us, his disciples, “When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth” (John 16:13)
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Anne-Marie

The Athanasian Creed:

Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the Catholic Faith. Which Faith except everyone do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly. And the Catholic Faith is this, that we worship one God in Trinity and Trinity in Unity. Neither confounding the Persons, nor dividing the Substance. For there is one Person of the Father, another of the Son, and another of the Holy Ghost. But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son and of the Holy Ghost is all One, the Glory Equal, the Majesty Co-Eternal. Such as the Father is, such is the Son, and such is the Holy Ghost. The Father Uncreate, the Son Uncreate, and the Holy Ghost Uncreate. The Father Incomprehensible, the Son Incomprehensible, and the Holy Ghost Incomprehensible. The Father Eternal, the Son Eternal, and the Holy Ghost Eternal and yet they are not Three Eternals but One Eternal. As also there are not Three Uncreated, nor Three Incomprehensibles, but One Uncreated, and One Uncomprehensible. So likewise the Father is Almighty, the Son Almighty, and the Holy Ghost Almighty. And yet they are not Three Almighties but One Almighty.

So the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost is God. And yet they are not Three Gods, but One God. So likewise the Father is Lord, the Son Lord, and the Holy Ghost Lord. And yet not Three Lords but One Lord. For, like as we are compelled by the Christian verity to acknowledge every Person by Himself to be God and Lord, so are we forbidden by the Catholic Religion to say, there be Three Gods or Three Lords. The Father is made of none, neither created, nor begotten. The Son is of the Father alone; not made, nor created, but begotten. The Holy Ghost is of the Father, and of the Son neither made, nor created, nor begotten, but proceeding. So there is One Father, not Three Fathers; one Son, not Three Sons; One Holy Ghost, not Three Holy Ghosts. And in this Trinity none is afore or after Other, None is greater or less than Another, but the whole Three Persons are Co-eternal together, and Co-equal. So that in all things, as is aforesaid, the Unity in Trinity, and the Trinity in Unity, is to be worshipped. He therefore that will be saved, must thus think of the Trinity.

Furthermore, it is necessary to everlasting Salvation, that he also believe rightly the Incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ. For the right Faith is, that we believe and confess, that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is God and Man.

God, of the substance of the Father, begotten before the worlds; and Man, of the substance of His mother, born into the world. Perfect God and Perfect Man, of a reasonable Soul and human Flesh subsisting. Equal to the Father as touching His Godhead, and inferior to the Father as touching His Manhood. Who, although He be God and Man, yet He is not two, but One Christ. One, not by conversion of the Godhead into Flesh, but by taking of the Manhood into God. One altogether, not by confusion of substance, but by Unity of Person. For as the reasonable soul and flesh is one Man, so God and Man is one Christ. Who suffered for our salvation, descended into Hell, rose again the third day from the dead. He ascended into Heaven, He sitteth on the right hand of the Father, God Almighty, from whence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead. At whose coming all men shall rise again with their bodies, and shall give account for their own works. And they that have done good shall go into life everlasting, and they that have done evil into everlasting fire. This is the Catholic Faith, which except a man believe faithfully and firmly, he cannot be saved.
Anne-Marie
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Gerard

That creed, where it talks about damnation for non-catholics, is at variance with the scriptures.

Gerry
"The institutional and charismatic aspects are quasi coessential to the Church's constitution" (Pope John Paul II, 1998).
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Anne-Marie

Gerard
Monday, 23. April 2012, 12:16
That creed, where it talks about damnation for non-catholics, is at variance with the scriptures.
Isn't that so often the trouble with our Church?
It's infallible and can't teach error... yet it declares a saint of someone whose views it claims are in opposition to its very Scriptures.
As lay folk, what ARE we supposed to make of such contradictions???
Anne-Marie
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Gerard

Well, as educated layfolk, we should think and study and draw conclusions. I have no problem with the church declaring people as saints who have made mistakes - indeed there can be no other kind. But I do have a problem when people try to extend infallibility to everything. I may also have doubts about infallibility itself.

Gerry
"The institutional and charismatic aspects are quasi coessential to the Church's constitution" (Pope John Paul II, 1998).
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OsullivanB

My namesake, St Bernard of Clairvaux, rejected the idea of the Immaculate Conception in very strong terms indeed.
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation." Herbert Spencer
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Anne-Marie
Monday, 23. April 2012, 17:03
Gerard
Monday, 23. April 2012, 12:16
That creed, where it talks about damnation for non-catholics, is at variance with the scriptures.
Isn't that so often the trouble with our Church?
It's infallible and can't teach error... yet it declares a saint of someone whose views it claims are in opposition to its very Scriptures.
As lay folk, what ARE we supposed to make of such contradictions???


According to the Catholic Encyclopaedia it is not known when or by whom the Athanasian Creed was written. If so it is not to be regarded as infallible doctrine of the Catholic Church. If Saint Athanasius did not write it there is no cause for concern that the Church canonised the writer whose views it claims are in opposition to its very Scriptures.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02033b.htm

Catholic Encyclopaedia
 
Who, then, is the author? The results of recent inquiry make it highly probable that the Creed first saw the light in the fourth century, during the life of the great Eastern patriarch, or shortly after his death. It has been attributed by different writers variously to St. Hilary, to St. Vincent of Lérins, to Eusebius of Vercelli, to Vigilius, and to others. It is not easy to avoid the force of the objections to all of these views, however, as they were men of world-wide reputation, and hence any document, especially one of such importance as a profession of faith, coming from them would have met with almost immediate recognition. Now, no allusions to the authorship of the Creed, and few even to its existence, are to be found in the literature of the Church for over two hundred years after their time. We have referred to a like silence in proof of non-Athanasian authorship. It seems to be similarly available in the case of any of the great names mentioned above. In the opinion of Father Sidney Smith, S.J., which the evidence just indicated renders plausible, the author of this Creed must have been some obscure bishop or theologian whose composed it, in the first instance, for purely local use in some provincial diocese. Not coming from an author of wide reputation, it would have attracted little attention. As it became better known, it would have been more widely adopted, and the compactness and lucidity of its statements would have contributed to make it highly prized wherever it was known. Then would follow speculation as to its author, and what wonder, if, from the subject-matter of the Creed, which occupied the great Athanasius so much, his name was first affixed to it and, unchallenged, remained.



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In the dim and distant past I vaguely remember someone writing that there will be only Catholics in Heaven and my answering that there will be no Catholics in Heaven.
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The Year of faith is coming soon, only 2 months away,
this is the new logo.

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And here are a few websites that are active on the subject.

http://catholic-year-of-faith.com/

http://www.annusfidei.va/content/novaevangelizatio/en.html

I welcome this opportunity to rejoice in our faith and celebrate being Catholic as well as exploring ways we can spread the "Good News"

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Our faith should be celebrated. A couple of years ago I was injured, that and caring responsibilities led to me being unable to get to Mass for ages. I felt a deep sense of bereavement, as though the very lifeblood had been sucked out of my being. That got it through to me, that Mass attendance is not a habit ingrained due to the culture in which I was raised. Our faith is alive, lets enjoy it!
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garfield

I wondered what, if anything people are doing in this 'Year of Faith' that is coming up in the autumn?
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Eileenanne

My parish has a series of weekly talks starting next week. They are being promoted under the YoF banner, but are mostly on the documents of the 2nd Vatican Council.

Eileenanne
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garfield

The CTS have some resources here http://ctscatholiccompass.org/new-from-cts/the-year-of-faith-vatican-ii-and-prayer/
I don't know if anything is planned for our Parish but I hope so, I just wondered if any other parishes had any good ideas?
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Our parish priest is personally putting together a course for discussion in the parish hall. He has not given further details, yet. I have no doubt that he will. In addition he encourages us to attend another course, held for the whole deanery, in a Catholic secondary school.

Both courses will have monthly meetings.
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http://www.indcatholicnews.com/news.php?viewStory=21191

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Westminster: Archbishop Nichols issues Pastoral Letter for Year of Faith


A Pastoral Letter for the Year of Faith from Archbishop Vincent Nichols was read out during Masses at the 214 Catholic churches in the Diocese of Westminster over 6/7 October 2012, the last weekend before the start of the Year of Faith.

In the Letter Archbishop Nichols says:

“The questions of faith are real in our world today. You may remember the marvellous opening ceremony of the Paralympic Games in early September. Professor Stephen Hawking, speaking from his wheelchair, said: ‘Ever since the dawn of civilisation people have craved an understanding of the underlying order of the universe………why it is as it is and why it exists at all.’

This question, and many others, team in modern minds. What does the gift of faith have to say?”

“The journey of faith is a great adventure into meaning, into love, into the fullness of being, into happiness, into eternal life. The Year of Faith can enkindle in us again the joy and companionship of this adventure and help us to realise that we have so much to offer to our world today.”



The full text of the letter is below

My brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ

On this coming Thursday, 11 October, the Catholic Church throughout the world begins the Year of Faith. It is called for by Pope Benedict XVI and we respond to it generously.

The Holy Father tells us that his overall objective is that through this Year of Faith we may ‘rediscover the joy of believing and the enthusiasm for communicating the faith’ (Porta Fidei para 1).

In particular he hopes that we will come to a deeper understanding of the truths of our faith and a renewed relationship with Jesus, Our Lord.
This Year of Faith marks the 50th anniversary of the opening of the Second Vatican Council and the 20th anniversary of the publication of the Catechism of the Catholic Church. This great body of teaching guides and shapes our Year of Faith just as it shapes the life of the Church.

How are we going to make the best use of this moment? There are so many possibilities.

In our Diocese we shall follow four seasons in the course of this Year of Faith. The first season, between now and Christmas, focuses on faith in God and in Jesus Christ, the Word of God made flesh.

The second season, between Christmas and Easter, brings us to look again at the sacraments, especially the Sacrament of Reconciliation.

During the third season, from Easter to summer 2013, we look at the practice of faith in moral living and generous giving.

And finally, from September to November 2013 we ponder on the place of prayer and spirituality in our lives.

The Year of Faith opens with a Mass in Westminster Cathedral next Thursday at 5.30pm, to which all are invited. It will close on the Feast of Christ the King in November next year with a solemn profession of faith in each parish.

And all this so that we may rediscover the joy of believing and the enthusiasm for sharing our faith confidently with others.

Opportunities to follow and explore these themes will be offered in parish and school, to young people and families, to catechists and to us priests and deacons. I hope this Year of Faith will bring a spirit of renewal to us all.

The questions of faith are real in our world today. You may remember the marvellous opening ceremony of the Paralympic Games in early September. Professor Stephen Hawking, speaking from his wheel-chair, said: ‘Ever since the dawn of civilisation people have craved an understanding of the underlying order of the universe………why it is as it is and why it exists at all.’

This question, and many others, team in modern minds. What does the gift of faith have to say?

We heard in the second reading today of ‘God, for whom everything exists and through whom everything exists.’ And we recall the words of St John that Jesus, the eternal Word of God made flesh, is the Word through whom the world is made. He is the pattern and principle of all things, the reason why the world exists at all. God speaks the Word and all things have life: in the beginning, now, for all time and beyond.

This is the beginning of the journey of faith, the first answer to the questions of our hearts.

The Second Reading goes much further. It speaks of God’s purpose in sustaining all creation: it is that we should be made perfect. Our lives have purpose and a promise of fulfilment. This is achieved through Jesus, the leader who will take us to our salvation.

The journey of faith is a great adventure into meaning, into love, into the fullness of being, into happiness, into eternal life. The Year of Faith can enkindle in us again the joy and companionship of this adventure and help us to realise that we have so much to offer to our world today.

I invite you to take a full part in this Year of Faith, at home, in school and in your parish.

As Pope Benedict writes: ‘May this Year of Faith make our relationship with Christ increasingly firm, since only in him is there the certitude for looking to the future and the guarantee of an authentic and lasting love.’

Yours devotedly
Vincent Nichols
Archbishop of Westminster


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