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| The Year of Faith | |
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| Topic Started: Thursday, 20. October 2011, 01:28 (595 Views) | |
| Marts | Tuesday, 10. April 2012, 02:52 Post #31 |
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We are Church have released a statement in reply to Benedict’s Chrism Mass homily. The section on the Year of Faith has my full agreement: Finally Benedict XVI asserted his full authority when he confirmed the "Note with pastoral guidelines for the year of the faith" of January 6, signed by Cardinal Levada where he asserts that "the texts of the Second Vatican Council and the 1992 Catechism of the Catholic Church are the essential tools that show us in an authentic way what the Church believes, regarding the Word of God ".. We refute in toto this equivalence between the authority of the Council and that of the Catechism, two qualitatively different sources, as we have long said. The Year of the faith should be the time to resort to the spirit of Vatican II and its texts to release the Church from its stagnation and to evangelize from the beginning of the third millenium. Benedict knows that a Council is much more authoritative than a Catechism so it is clear he prefers the CCC to the Council. How sad. He is asking priests to be obedient, perhaps he should lead by example and acknowledge the authority of the Council. Read the statement: http://www.we-are-church.org.uk/pdf/PR_8Abr2012.pdf |
| Jesus told us, his disciples, “When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth” (John 16:13) | |
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| Anne-Marie | Monday, 23. April 2012, 09:21 Post #32 |
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The Athanasian Creed: Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the Catholic Faith. Which Faith except everyone do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly. And the Catholic Faith is this, that we worship one God in Trinity and Trinity in Unity. Neither confounding the Persons, nor dividing the Substance. For there is one Person of the Father, another of the Son, and another of the Holy Ghost. But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son and of the Holy Ghost is all One, the Glory Equal, the Majesty Co-Eternal. Such as the Father is, such is the Son, and such is the Holy Ghost. The Father Uncreate, the Son Uncreate, and the Holy Ghost Uncreate. The Father Incomprehensible, the Son Incomprehensible, and the Holy Ghost Incomprehensible. The Father Eternal, the Son Eternal, and the Holy Ghost Eternal and yet they are not Three Eternals but One Eternal. As also there are not Three Uncreated, nor Three Incomprehensibles, but One Uncreated, and One Uncomprehensible. So likewise the Father is Almighty, the Son Almighty, and the Holy Ghost Almighty. And yet they are not Three Almighties but One Almighty. So the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost is God. And yet they are not Three Gods, but One God. So likewise the Father is Lord, the Son Lord, and the Holy Ghost Lord. And yet not Three Lords but One Lord. For, like as we are compelled by the Christian verity to acknowledge every Person by Himself to be God and Lord, so are we forbidden by the Catholic Religion to say, there be Three Gods or Three Lords. The Father is made of none, neither created, nor begotten. The Son is of the Father alone; not made, nor created, but begotten. The Holy Ghost is of the Father, and of the Son neither made, nor created, nor begotten, but proceeding. So there is One Father, not Three Fathers; one Son, not Three Sons; One Holy Ghost, not Three Holy Ghosts. And in this Trinity none is afore or after Other, None is greater or less than Another, but the whole Three Persons are Co-eternal together, and Co-equal. So that in all things, as is aforesaid, the Unity in Trinity, and the Trinity in Unity, is to be worshipped. He therefore that will be saved, must thus think of the Trinity. Furthermore, it is necessary to everlasting Salvation, that he also believe rightly the Incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ. For the right Faith is, that we believe and confess, that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is God and Man. God, of the substance of the Father, begotten before the worlds; and Man, of the substance of His mother, born into the world. Perfect God and Perfect Man, of a reasonable Soul and human Flesh subsisting. Equal to the Father as touching His Godhead, and inferior to the Father as touching His Manhood. Who, although He be God and Man, yet He is not two, but One Christ. One, not by conversion of the Godhead into Flesh, but by taking of the Manhood into God. One altogether, not by confusion of substance, but by Unity of Person. For as the reasonable soul and flesh is one Man, so God and Man is one Christ. Who suffered for our salvation, descended into Hell, rose again the third day from the dead. He ascended into Heaven, He sitteth on the right hand of the Father, God Almighty, from whence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead. At whose coming all men shall rise again with their bodies, and shall give account for their own works. And they that have done good shall go into life everlasting, and they that have done evil into everlasting fire. This is the Catholic Faith, which except a man believe faithfully and firmly, he cannot be saved. |
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| Gerard | Monday, 23. April 2012, 12:16 Post #33 |
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That creed, where it talks about damnation for non-catholics, is at variance with the scriptures. Gerry |
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| Anne-Marie | Monday, 23. April 2012, 17:03 Post #34 |
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Isn't that so often the trouble with our Church? It's infallible and can't teach error... yet it declares a saint of someone whose views it claims are in opposition to its very Scriptures. As lay folk, what ARE we supposed to make of such contradictions??? |
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| Gerard | Monday, 23. April 2012, 17:45 Post #35 |
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Well, as educated layfolk, we should think and study and draw conclusions. I have no problem with the church declaring people as saints who have made mistakes - indeed there can be no other kind. But I do have a problem when people try to extend infallibility to everything. I may also have doubts about infallibility itself. Gerry |
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| OsullivanB | Monday, 23. April 2012, 19:35 Post #36 |
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My namesake, St Bernard of Clairvaux, rejected the idea of the Immaculate Conception in very strong terms indeed. |
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| Rose of York | Monday, 23. April 2012, 20:05 Post #37 |
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According to the Catholic Encyclopaedia it is not known when or by whom the Athanasian Creed was written. If so it is not to be regarded as infallible doctrine of the Catholic Church. If Saint Athanasius did not write it there is no cause for concern that the Church canonised the writer whose views it claims are in opposition to its very Scriptures. http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02033b.htm
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| Derekap | Tuesday, 24. April 2012, 11:02 Post #38 |
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In the dim and distant past I vaguely remember someone writing that there will be only Catholics in Heaven and my answering that there will be no Catholics in Heaven. |
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| Penfold | Thursday, 2. August 2012, 00:07 Post #39 |
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The Year of faith is coming soon, only 2 months away, this is the new logo. ![]() And here are a few websites that are active on the subject. http://catholic-year-of-faith.com/ http://www.annusfidei.va/content/novaevangelizatio/en.html I welcome this opportunity to rejoice in our faith and celebrate being Catholic as well as exploring ways we can spread the "Good News" |
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| Rose of York | Thursday, 2. August 2012, 00:15 Post #40 |
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Our faith should be celebrated. A couple of years ago I was injured, that and caring responsibilities led to me being unable to get to Mass for ages. I felt a deep sense of bereavement, as though the very lifeblood had been sucked out of my being. That got it through to me, that Mass attendance is not a habit ingrained due to the culture in which I was raised. Our faith is alive, lets enjoy it! |
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| garfield | Friday, 31. August 2012, 21:12 Post #41 |
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I wondered what, if anything people are doing in this 'Year of Faith' that is coming up in the autumn? |
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| Eileenanne | Friday, 31. August 2012, 21:27 Post #42 |
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My parish has a series of weekly talks starting next week. They are being promoted under the YoF banner, but are mostly on the documents of the 2nd Vatican Council. Eileenanne |
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| garfield | Wednesday, 5. September 2012, 08:34 Post #43 |
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The CTS have some resources here http://ctscatholiccompass.org/new-from-cts/the-year-of-faith-vatican-ii-and-prayer/ I don't know if anything is planned for our Parish but I hope so, I just wondered if any other parishes had any good ideas? |
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| Rose of York | Sunday, 9. September 2012, 20:04 Post #44 |
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Our parish priest is personally putting together a course for discussion in the parish hall. He has not given further details, yet. I have no doubt that he will. In addition he encourages us to attend another course, held for the whole deanery, in a Catholic secondary school. Both courses will have monthly meetings. |
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| Rose of York | Monday, 8. October 2012, 00:52 Post #45 |
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