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| The Year of Faith | |
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| Topic Started: Thursday, 20. October 2011, 01:28 (596 Views) | |
| garfield | Wednesday, 23. November 2011, 13:15 Post #16 |
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I think that having books available to borrow is a great idea as they are expensive to buy, I do like the small CTS books and usually pick up a few if I'm in their shop in Westminster or at a conference where there is a bookshop. |
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| Rose of York | Friday, 6. January 2012, 00:56 Post #17 |
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http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=12880 |
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| Rose of York | Saturday, 7. January 2012, 21:50 Post #18 |
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http://visnews-en.blogspot.com/2012/01/pastoral-recommendations-for-year-of_07.html
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| Anne-Marie | Monday, 9. January 2012, 12:20 Post #19 |
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The Epiphany sermon by my priest has triggered a chain of thoughts about Faith and belief... And what we REALLY believe! Three magi who we know little about except they came from 'The East' (modern-day Iran was then a centre of beliefs such as theirs), travelled a considerable distance, probably on camels, in the days before anything approaching modern roads because .. of what exactly? A bright light in the sky - maybe a supernova star, or perhaps a conjunction of planets - caused them to abandon everything and follow it to they knew not where to find they really weren't sure what, other than the birth they thought of someone 'great'. How many of us drop everything because we feel we need to do something special for a God we don't even know? It seems to have been something akin to Peter abandoning his family and business to follow a call from a 'tramp'. I just can't help wondering whether I could ever have that much faith in anything or anyone to abandon everything because I need to follow a 'call'. Sure, we attend Mass, say our prayers, are kind to folks (if it doesn't cost us too much!). But what real and total sacrifices do we make of all that matters to us in this world? Do we abandon the jobs we have spent a life fighting for? Do we abandon the homes and families we love desperately? Which all rather begs the question: What do I really believe??? |
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| Rose of York | Saturday, 4. February 2012, 02:19 Post #20 |
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http://www.news.va/en/news/from-12-to-72-the-european-cities-on-mission-like- I posted part of the article, if you want to see the rest, which is very lengthy, please click the above link. My preference would be for grass roots evangelisation, in parishes with events advertised as OPEN TO ALL, and by individual Catholics by the example we set to people we meet in our daily lives and being available to answer questions. Major events in large cities will go unnoticed by many people. Evanglicals, Pentecostals, Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses evangelise by meeting people where they are at, in their own home towns, and it works for them. It would work for us, given the chance. |
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| Marts | Wednesday, 22. February 2012, 01:40 Post #21 |
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Confirmation in the article linked that the Year of Faith is going to include a one-sided analysis of Vatican II. It also affirms that the CCC has more authority than Vatican II according to the Holy See. Not only is VII being reformed it is being usurped. Here is an excerpt: In order to give precise focus on and to provide the necessary energy for this program, Benedict has announced a Year of Faith to begin in October to coincide with the 50th anniversary of the beginning of Vatican II and the 10th anniversary of the launching of the Catechism of the Catholic Church. The linking of these two landmark events takes on a more complete significance when one reads the program for the celebrations in the recently published Nota prepared by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. The Nota envisions a number of doctrinal and pastoral emphases: that Pope Benedict’s teachings on the Reform of the Reform in Continuity along with the Magisterium of John Paul II constitute the principal and authentic interpretation of Vatican II as well as the Documents and the directions which emerged from them; that the CCC is will assume the critical and key role for authoritative catechesis on these definitive teachings. http://www.cathnews.com/article.aspx?aeid=30078 |
| Jesus told us, his disciples, “When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth” (John 16:13) | |
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| Marts | Wednesday, 28. March 2012, 17:42 Post #22 |
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David Timbs has written an excellent article: 50 Years on: Renewal or Retreat? which highlights that Benedict is in opposition to one of the greatest popes, John XXIII, in that he believes all the Church requires is a Holy Year and not structural reform: With the gradual rejection of the notion of the People of God, a central motif for ecclesial identity in Vat II, John Paul II and Cardinal Ratzinger systematically dismantled the authority of the local churches, episcopal conferences and any real notions of subsidiarity. With their regressively authoritarian and centralised pontifical and curial governance, the Church has been monumentally betrayed and demoralised. The catalogue of catastrophes, culpable failures and the totalitarian pontificates of both JP II and Benedict XVI may go on the record as marking the years from 1978 to the present as the greatest disaster period in the history of the Catholic Church. They have not only caused regression from Vatican II, they are both probably guilty of grave material non-reception of that Council. And now Benedict and the Curia, to mask the disaster, have generated what might well be perceived to be a spiritual smoke screen to blur out the spectacle of a Church left little more than a shell. When faced with a catastrophe, they give the faithful a Catechism………. Ironically, just five days after his election, John XXIII was thoroughly convinced that not only was the world itself facing critical challenges and an unchartered future but that the Church, to gain evangelical traction and present a credible identity, had to expose itself to similarly risky challenges and plot its own course in troubled waters. He confided in his private secretary, Don Loris Capovilla, that something urgent had to be done in, with and for the Church, On my table pour a lot of problems, questions and concerns. It would take something new and singular, not just a Holy Year. The Catholic Church got four holy years in succession, the Second Vatican Ecumenical Council. Another is desperately needed but it won’t happen as long as there is instead an insistence on the need for hurriedly manufactured collective spiritual renewal to the exclusion and refusal of fundamental and systemic ecclesial reform. Read the full article: http://www.v2catholic.com/dtimbs/2012/2012-03-25renewal_or_retreat.htm Read the words of the Secretary to JohnXXIII: http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/homepage/inquiries-and-interviews/detail/articolo/capovilla-concilio-vaticano-ii-12121/ Edited by Marts, Wednesday, 28. March 2012, 17:42.
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| Gerard | Wednesday, 28. March 2012, 19:44 Post #23 |
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I started reading post #18 but lost the will to live half way through ............. Gerry Edited by Gerard, Wednesday, 28. March 2012, 19:45.
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| "The institutional and charismatic aspects are quasi coessential to the Church's constitution" (Pope John Paul II, 1998). | |
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| Gerard | Wednesday, 28. March 2012, 20:01 Post #24 |
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The Nota nowhere mentions "Reform of the Reform". It does mention “the hermeneutic of reform in continuity” . Now as an ardent V2er I never gave any credence to the so called ideas of rupture and discontinuity and I have no fear of “the hermeneutic of reform in continuity”. I agree that a powerful minority are doing all they can to undermine V2 and Ratzinger/Benedict is among them but I am confident they will fail. I also find nothing in the Catechism that departs from the documents of V2. In fact I think it is rather a good summary of them. Gerry |
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| Rose of York | Wednesday, 28. March 2012, 21:58 Post #25 |
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I predict that the Year of Faith will be marked with events at National and Diocesan level. There will be Masses at which all the priests of a diocese will concelebrate, and the bishop will be fully vested, with perhaps a new mitre and he will carry his crozier. Civic dignataries will attend. Seating will be limited so each parish will be given an allocation and they will, in some parishes, be allocated as marks of gratitude to the parishioners who have "done a lot for the parish". Dioceses will hold seminars, workshops, perhaps weekend Summer schools. The type I think of as professional Catholics will attend everything. At parish level we who are considered to be of the lower order will just get on with practising our faith, and letting it be known to all our friends and other contacts that we are available at any time if they want to discuss our Catholic/Christian faith. Those who have an interest in deepening our knowledge and faith will continue asking for Bible classes. My suggestion would be that every parish hold events, part social, partly informative. People could come along to a barbecue and those who wish could go inside the church or parish hall, if there is one, and meet a Catholic who will talk to them in a relaxed manner, and if that person wishes to attend a Mass, offer to accompany them. |
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| Gerard | Wednesday, 28. March 2012, 22:09 Post #26 |
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Mention of the Bible seems to be absent from all these recomendations comming from the Vatican. Seem to prefer the catechism Gerry |
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| Deacon Robert | Wednesday, 28. March 2012, 22:35 Post #27 |
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Gerard, you are right, I think, in part. I seem to recall each and every statement in the catechism has a note referencing both bible and in most cases tradition |
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| Rose of York | Wednesday, 28. March 2012, 23:13 Post #28 |
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I clicked on the Forum Library's link to the Catechism http://ukcatholic.co.uk/topic/105153/1/#new Looking at two pages chosen at random I noted every paragraph had numbers in red. Clicking on those I was taken to a list of references for that section. They were mainly to Bible verses or Councils of the Church. There is a crying need in our parishes for Bible Study. I would be welcome at Bible study in any church in my locality (Church of England, Methodist and Independent Evangelical). Not one parish in our rural deanery (a bigger area than some small dioceses) advertises them on their newsletters, viewable on websites. |
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| Marts | Thursday, 29. March 2012, 00:25 Post #29 |
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Frank Brennan, SJ gave a talk on 23 March 2012 titled Bringing the modern world into contact with the vivifying and perennial energies of the gospel (John XXIII’s half century challenge) He used the opportunity to “indicate six ways in which we the educated and grounded People of God might respond more passionately to the challenges of the Age.” Here are some excerpts: The challenges are enormous, but invigorating. John O'Malley SJ, the finest contemporary historian of Vatican II writing in the English language has provided us with "a simple litany" of the changes in church style indicated by the council's vocabulary: "from commands to invitations, from laws to ideals, from threats to persuasion, from coercion to conscience, from monologue to conversation, from ruling to serving, from withdrawn to integrated, from vertical and top-down to horizontal, from exclusion to inclusion, from hostility to friendship, from static to changing, from passive acceptance to active engagement, from prescriptive to principled, from defiant to open-ended, from behaviour modification to conversion of heart, from the dictates of law to the dictates of conscience, from external conformity to the joyful pursuit of holiness." I am one who welcomes these changes. I am not one of those Catholics so wedded to the continuity of the tradition as to think that nothing happened at Vatican II, and that we should be back to business as usual as we were when those eight year old boys gathered with the Christian Brother around the portrait of Our Lady of Perpetual Succour. As you know, I am quite unapologetic in according primacy to the formed and informed conscience of the individual. Any Catholic taking their faith and church membership seriously will be very attentive to the teaching office of the hierarchy, especially the Pope. But at the end of the day, all of us, whether Pope or not, are obliged to form and inform our conscience and to that conscience be true. In the US we are seeing a strong pushback by the Catholic Bishops against the Obama administration’s new health regime on the basis of freedom of conscience. We cannot espouse freedom of conscience against the State and deny it within our own Church…. At World Youth Day in Madrid last year, Archbishop Chaput realising that Gerard Holohan, Bishop of Bunbury, was from Australia, drew him aside in the cathedral before mass “to indicate vigorously that he had indeed discussed the contents of his report with Bishop Morris – except for the names of who he met – at the end of his Apostolic visit to Toowoomba.” [7] If the processes were working correctly, there would have been no need for an Apostolic Visitor to draw aside a bishop he had never met to assure him of due process in relation to another bishop when the stranger bishop had not even made an inquiry. When Archbishop Hart first published his report about Archbishop Chaput’s claim that he had followed due process, I wrote to Archbishop Chaput seeking clarification. He replied promptly though briefly within a day, “I have no comments for you, Father Brennan. God bless you.” [8] On 12 March, Bishop Morris wrote seeking clarification of Chaput’s repeated claim to Australian bishops that he had shared the contents of his report. We await developments…. Vatican II’s dogmatic constitution on the Church, Lumen Gentium, describes the Church as the people of God. Many of the people of God anxious to respect the human dignity of all and to ensure that the Church be as perfect a human institution as possible now think that natural justice and due process should be followed within the Church, while always maintaining the hierarchical nature of the Church and the papal primacy. Of course, there are some who question the papal primacy or the need for an ordained hierarchy, but that is definitely not my position and they are not my concern here. The question for the contemporary Catholic is: can I assent to the teaching of Lumen Gentium without having a commitment to due process, natural justice and transparency in Church processes and structures thereby maximizing the prospect that the exercise of hierarchical power and papal primacy will be for the good of the people of God, rather than a corrosive influence on the faith and trust of the people of God?… It is no longer appropriate for Church hierarchs to claim that notions of transparency, due process and natural justice are antithetical to the hierarchical nature of the Church or to the primacy of the papacy. The primacy is not to be exercised arbitrarily or capriciously; and defenders of the Church will want to go to great lengths to ensure that the papal office is not perceived to be exercised without sufficient regard to the circumstances and evidence of a case. For the Pope to be totally free in the appointment, transfer and removal of bishops, he and his flock have to be assured that his curial officials exercise their power to recommend appointment, transfer or removal in a just and transparent manner. The laity, the religious, the presbyterate and the bishops in some nations are sure to have a heightened twenty first century notion of justice, transparency, and due process. This heightened notion is a gift for the contemporary Church. It is one of the works of the Spirit. It is not antithetical to the nature of the Church. Lumen Gentium puts it well: [13] Since the kingdom of Christ is not of this world the Church or people of God in establishing that kingdom takes nothing away from the temporal welfare of any people. On the contrary it fosters and takes to itself, insofar as they are good, the ability, riches and customs in which the genius of each people expresses itself. Taking them to itself it purifies, strengthens, elevates and ennobles them. Read the full article: http://www.v2catholic.com/fbrennan/2012/2012-03-23catalyst-dinner-talk.htm |
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| Anne-Marie | Thursday, 29. March 2012, 07:57 Post #30 |
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Powerful stuff, Marts - and well worth reading. |
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