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| Topic Started: Friday, 24. August 2012, 16:41 (441 Views) | |
| OsullivanB | Friday, 24. August 2012, 16:41 Post #1 |
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| "There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation." Herbert Spencer | |
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| Derekap | Friday, 24. August 2012, 17:28 Post #2 |
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There are already parishes in England sharing one priest. So Bernard, sooner than perhaps you realise, your parish may need you! And I don't think this excludes women, so Rose - standby! As for me I would need a papal standing trolley and a wheelchair so may I be excused? |
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| OsullivanB | Friday, 24. August 2012, 17:34 Post #3 |
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Certainly not! While the article contained this sentence: In your case it would be modified to this requirement:
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| "There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation." Herbert Spencer | |
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| Derekap | Friday, 24. August 2012, 17:41 Post #4 |
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The Church would really be "Scraping the barrel" if it needed me to officiate! |
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| OsullivanB | Friday, 24. August 2012, 17:45 Post #5 |
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The last shall be first and the first last. |
| "There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation." Herbert Spencer | |
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| Derekap | Friday, 24. August 2012, 20:05 Post #6 |
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As long as I got in before St Peter locks the gate on the Last Day! |
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| Rose of York | Friday, 24. August 2012, 20:26 Post #7 |
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If this is a pointer for England and Wales we might end up with mandated ministers, lay people fully trained, and with a mandate from their bishop, to carry out functions not reserved to ordained deacons and/or priests. They relieve the parish priest who is based elsewhere, of much of the routine day to day administration and minor property maintenance matters. Hopefully they will be the ones who will conduct the lay led services. I can see this situation developing, initially in rural areas where we have chapels of ease and a congregation of only a few dozen people. Most are able to travel to a parish church by car. Some, due to health issues are limited as to how far they can comfortably travel. At least if the chapel of ease remains open and in regular use they will not feel totally cut off from Catholic society. |
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| Josephine | Friday, 24. August 2012, 23:03 Post #8 |
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So what about Sunday obligation? Or will it no longer be a mortal sin to miss Mass on Sunday? |
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| OsullivanB | Saturday, 25. August 2012, 00:00 Post #9 |
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| "There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation." Herbert Spencer | |
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| paul | Sunday, 26. August 2012, 14:29 Post #10 |
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Is it time for the church to consider virtual reality and allow people to hear mass via their pc? Receiving the Holy Sacrament could be dealt with my lay eucharitic ministers. |
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| draig | Sunday, 26. August 2012, 16:40 Post #11 |
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I don't agree. The whole point of going to mass is the coming together of the people in an act of worship. Whilst virtual prayer meetings are useful, a virtual mass would seem to go against the whole ethos of communion and community. |
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| Derekap | Sunday, 26. August 2012, 18:12 Post #12 |
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"Attending" a Holy Mass on the Internet is a boon for those who may, for genuine reasons, be unable to attend in person. One can watch live transmissions or recordings. |
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| paul | Sunday, 26. August 2012, 18:50 Post #13 |
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cheap booze from supermarkets is seeing the decline of the local pub the usual meeting place for communities. The decline in the number of priests will see the number of churches fall. Internet access is a boon for disabled and those people without a local church. The church needs to build on the advantages of the internet and exploit its potential to reach out to those people. The dilema for the church revolves around liturgy....time for a fundamental rethink?? |
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| draig | Sunday, 26. August 2012, 18:59 Post #14 |
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Well woopie-do! We can close down all those expensive to run churches and we can have communion posted out to us to self-administer when we are watching mass on EWTN or via the internet. We should be able to cut down our offertory donations too. The sign of peace might be a bit of a problem, but perhaps we can message each other pictures of our hands. Where can I sign up? |
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| Derekap | Sunday, 26. August 2012, 20:18 Post #15 |
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draig, I'm not suggesting 'attendance' of Holy Mass on the internet should be regarded as valid for the fit and agile or when Holy Mass on Sunday is available. |
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