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| Catholic Marriage to a Protestant?; Is it legitimate in the Catholic Church? | |
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| Topic Started: Wednesday, 2. May 2012, 21:48 (994 Views) | |
| Angus Toanimo | Friday, 4. May 2012, 22:32 Post #46 |
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So, are these Canons just providing guidelines, and restrictions on the Church's power? What have I added to Canon Law and added conditions like a pharisee?
"Guidelines....restrictive on the Church's power" - Perhaps a legal expert can explain to the Deacon what "juridicial binding force" and "force of law" mean in relation to the Canons of the 1983 code? |
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| Emee | Friday, 4. May 2012, 22:32 Post #47 |
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Nice Christian attitude Deacon. God Bless you too... ("Bless those who smite you.") |
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| Emee | Friday, 4. May 2012, 22:37 Post #48 |
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By my post immediately above I refer to this remark: ""Well thanks a bunch, not." Tell it to somebody who cares" You know when someone is struggling with a mixed marriage and trying to reconcile their faith with their family life saying to them "Tell it to somebody who cares" is about as helpful as telling a blind man to cross a busy road without assistance... |
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| valleyboy | Friday, 4. May 2012, 22:43 Post #49 |
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I didn't take Deacon's reply as a direct response to myself Emee, so any criticism of you, intentional or otherwise passed me by. I appreciate all replies and will weigh them in true conscience. As a catholic returnee I find some of the church's ritual and dogma familiar and a comfort, other aspects strange, contradictory, even slightly hypocritical. However my perspective is skewed by a highly traditional, deeply conservative upbringing which was in essence a set of impossible moral boobytraps I tired of negotiating in my teens, something I suspect I'm not alone in. Peers who stayed with the church seemed to have a more grounded view of the role of conscience in the proceedings and rather less of the moral Catch 22 I was inculcated with. I'm determined not to get drawn into Catholicer-than-thou debates which might trigger old misgivings about dogma, and accept its essentials which I've never had any issue with. Thanks again for the input. |
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| Rose of York | Friday, 4. May 2012, 22:44 Post #50 |
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Special request: PLEASE CAN WE ALL CALM DOWN. The personal disagreements on this thread are most unusual for this forum. Let's all get back to our usual routine, disagreeing whilst being nice to each other. I am posting this in my capacity as a forum member, I am not in moderating mode or mood. |
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| Rose of York | Friday, 4. May 2012, 22:47 Post #51 |
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Valleyboy, do you mind if I quote from that, in a new topic about our Catholic upbringing? Mine was a bit like yours. |
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| Emee | Friday, 4. May 2012, 22:49 Post #52 |
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Thank you so much for that valleyboy. You know I come on here for friendly conversation after working in a profession all day, 5 days a week, in which I am not liked (I'm an auditor :) ) and quite often barely tolerated! I have a husband who can't understand the importance of my faith to me so I can't always share faith aspects with him. So I come on here as a sort of catharsis and hope I may be able to help someone along the way from my own personal experiences. So I can do without being told: "Tell it to someone who cares". I'm having a tough enough time in other aspects of my life as it is. Thank God people are generally civil on here. If I weren't made of sterner mettle I'd be crying my eyes out by now. You can only cope with so much crud being thrown at you... |
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| valleyboy | Friday, 4. May 2012, 22:57 Post #53 |
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Feel free Rose! |
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| valleyboy | Friday, 4. May 2012, 23:09 Post #54 |
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Even auditors have a place in heaven, Emee! My survival tactic in the moral maze is to keep remembering this is my church and not expect anyone to have all the answers for me - while still being interested in their official or unofficial perspective and moral guidance. |
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| Deacon Robert | Friday, 4. May 2012, 23:14 Post #55 |
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Emee, let me see if I got this straight. You can be sarcastic to me, but I can not respond in kind. Here is a hint, treat me with respect as a human being and I will treat you the same. |
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The burden of life is from ourselves, its lightness from the grace of Christ and the love of God. - William Bernard Ullanthorne | |
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| Emee | Friday, 4. May 2012, 23:20 Post #56 |
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Gosh Deacon I wasn't being sarcastic. It began with you telling valleyboy to ignore me because you thought I was quoting from the Internet, which I wasn't. I was in fact reiterating a not-painless experience, and when I said: "Thanks a bunch not" that was an expression of my hurt for being brushed off as something to be ignored, not my being sarcastic. You then responded with: "Tell it to someone who cares..." Well you know I'm now really tired of people treating me like something they've trodden on. So tired of it. I get it throughout the day at work. I can do without it here. I asked for an apology. You don't want to give it. So I'll leave it at that. But I don't have the strength to post any further on here now for the time being. God Bless us all. |
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| Deacon Robert | Friday, 4. May 2012, 23:29 Post #57 |
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Emee, no one wants to tread on you,least of all me.. I will apologize that I did not realize you were speaking from your pain and were not pasting from internet sources. However, I will not apologize for replying in like manner to what I consider a sarcastic statement aimed at me. |
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| Emee | Saturday, 5. May 2012, 00:11 Post #58 |
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The point is Deacon if what I do post gets so misinterpreted: in the first instance information misinterpreted as being from the internet when it was my own personal experience; and in the second instance, hurt misinterpreted as saracasm, well there isn't really any point in my posting on here at all is there? It is basically a waste of time. Because if I can be misinterpreted twice in a few posts in the same thread well there isn't really much point in me trying to post something helpful, because it obviously isn't coming across very well. That's why I think I'll take a break for a while now. I'm obviously strung out from work and it is spilling over into my time on here and I have obviously lost the capacity (hopefully temporarily) to explain myself very well. Shame because this was a source of respite for me from all the other treatment I have to cope with in my day job... Oh well. I'm going to spend a weekend focussed on my family and dogs and take a bit of time out from posting on here... :) |
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| Rose of York | Saturday, 5. May 2012, 00:18 Post #59 |
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Yes Emee there is a point. On here and on another now extinct forum I often referred to you as the peacemaker because you have a knack of calming troubled waters. I would miss you very much if you were to leave us, but I fully understand your wish to take a break. |
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| Rose of York | Saturday, 5. May 2012, 00:19 Post #60 |
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How about everybody exchanging a Sign of Peace? PEACE BE WITH YOU ALL. |
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