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" The Forbidden Rite" (2011); The Restoration....
Topic Started: Wednesday, 2. May 2012, 01:44 (1,208 Views)
Angus Toanimo
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PAX DOMINE SIT SEMPER VOBISCUM


The Forbidden Rite

Forbidden...powerful...beautiful...ancient...extraordinary....

For almost half a century, they have been persecuted, harassed, ostracized, denied, and degraded. They have been mocked and pushed to the corners of faith.

Who are these people and why have they been treated this way? They are those who still believe in the power of an ancient rite that had seemed to become almost entirely forbidden during the 20th century.

Yet in 2007, history began to change. The Vatican unleashed this once almost forbidden rite, requiring that every bishop, priest, and diocese around the world welcome those who desired it, and help them to obtain it.

Despite the many efforts of the Pope, who himself practices this ancient rite and desires for it to become the norm in parishes, their persecutors still abound within the Church, continuing to negate them the best that they can.

The battle is only beginning, but it is one that will change the face of the Catholic Church, and that of the world, forever.

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The Forbidden Rite

Forbidden...powerful...beautiful...ancient...extraordinary....

For almost half a century, they have been persecuted, harassed, ostracized, denied, and degraded. They have been mocked and pushed to the corners of faith.

Who are these people and why have they been treated this way? They are those who still believe in the power of an ancient rite that had seemed to become almost entirely forbidden during the 20th century.

Yet in 2007, history began to change. The Vatican unleashed this once almost forbidden rite, requiring that every bishop, priest, and diocese around the world welcome those who desired it, and help them to obtain it.

Despite the many efforts of the Pope, who himself practices this ancient rite and desires for it to become the norm in parishes, their persecutors still abound within the Church, continuing to negate them the best that they can.


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Edited by Gerard, Wednesday, 2. May 2012, 09:11.
"The institutional and charismatic aspects are quasi coessential to the Church's constitution" (Pope John Paul II, 1998).
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Angus Toanimo
Wednesday, 2. May 2012, 01:44
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Forbidden?

What about our brothers and sisters in places like China, Pakistan, Nigeria who are suffering REAL persecution for their faith? People are dying out there.

Sorry, I can't get worked up about a group of people here who perceive they are being persecuted just because they can't get a Tridentine Mass, which, by the way, is NOT forbidden.

I am not some wishy-washy liberal - I love the Tridentine Mass, and all the old traditions of the Church, but I don't buy into this victim mentality. It's just too ridiculous and an insult to those who have actually died for their faith.
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pat
Wednesday, 2. May 2012, 12:11
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Forbidden?

What about our brothers and sisters in places like China, Pakistan, Nigeria who are suffering REAL persecution for their faith? People are dying out there.

Sorry, I can't get worked up about a group of people here who perceive they are being persecuted just because they can't get a Tridentine Mass, which, by the way, is NOT forbidden.

I am not some wishy-washy liberal - I love the Tridentine Mass, and all the old traditions of the Church, but I don't buy into this victim mentality. It's just too ridiculous and an insult to those who have actually died for their faith.
Harsh.

But true.
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Marts

Not forbidden and for “powerful...beautiful...ancient...extraordinary....” read incomprehensible.

This Mass is now freely available, but there are very few willing victims.

This Mass should be available where requested or needed, but Gerard, Rose, pat and Jamie are correct in their assessments.
Jesus told us, his disciples, “When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth” (John 16:13)
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It is normal practice for parishes in England and Wales to have Mass in the Latin Rite. Ordinarily the Mass is in the vernacular. Tridentine Masses of the Latin Rite are Extraordinary, by order of His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI.

So there!
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Whilst I appreciated the Traditional Holy Mass when it was the norm I did not feel any nostalgia when I saw parts of the youtube clip referred to by Angus. Anyone who did not experience the norm can be assured it was not normally so reverend and perfect as shown in the clip. I am not saying that celebrants were careless but (we are all human) with age celebrants developed mannerisms and eccentricities - more so I believe because they were using a non-vernacular language. One, I remember, used to go rrrrrrrrrrrrrr though most of the Confiteor. After Holy Communion he used to retrieve the Communion Plate from the Altar Boy a number of times because he feared he saw a crumb of the Host on it. Some literallly gabbled the prayers and readings; on the other hand a teenage or early twenties convert from Methodism was meticulous with the Latin to the end.

In case of any defence of the Traditional Holy Mass in comparison to the presentation of the Ordinary Form, I am prepared to admit that, because of human weakness, the presentations I have seen on the internet show that celebrants inevitably have their own mannerisms and slight faults - it can't be helped. One celebrant says: "Thank You" after the response: "And with your spirit".

I am sure our Merciful God will ensure that despite faults and weaknesses all such priests are in or will go to Heaven.

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One celebrant says: "Thank You" after the response: "And with your spirit".


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Wonderful !

Gerry
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The problem in my diocese is not having a Tridentine mass - it's getting people to come to it.

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For almost half a century, they have been persecuted, harassed, ostracized, denied, and degraded.

From what I have seen, it is the Taditionalists who seek to persecute, harass, ostracise and degrade those who disagree with them :wh:
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garfield

I was born in 1967 and have been to a Mass in Latin once, it was like being in a foreign country. I can see the point of bringing back Latin for special occasions where more than one nationality is present but I wouldn't want it every Sunday
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I agree totally with pat and garfield and I am just 3 years older than garfield.
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I watched the videos. I enjoyed "Lambada the forbidden dance" better.
The burden of life is from ourselves, its lightness from the grace of Christ and the love of God. - William Bernard Ullanthorne

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Wednesday, 2. May 2012, 01:44
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Forbidden...powerful...beautiful...ancient...extraordinary....
Four of the five could be applied to me.
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