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| Topic Started: Friday, 3. February 2012, 21:52 (1,337 Views) | |
| Rose of York | Monday, 13. February 2012, 23:54 Post #61 |
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There is no Claddagh ring on Google Images of masonic symbols. |
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| OsullivanB | Tuesday, 14. February 2012, 01:08 Post #62 |
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That's probably because it has nothing whatsoever to to with Freemasonry. |
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| Rose of York | Tuesday, 14. February 2012, 01:13 Post #63 |
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That is what I thought all along, OSB. I think your first mention of the ring was misunderstood. |
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| OsullivanB | Tuesday, 14. February 2012, 01:31 Post #64 |
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I think so. All I was pointing out was that many people with all sorts of associations wear things which are inconspicuous but carry a message to those "in the know". The Fainne is another. |
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| Angus Toanimo | Tuesday, 14. February 2012, 01:33 Post #65 |
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My bad, I did misconstrue your post, it appears, OsB... I prefer the Claddagh, without the crown ![]() |
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| OsullivanB | Tuesday, 14. February 2012, 02:06 Post #66 |
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As far as I know the crown is not a reference to England. There were Kings in Ireland before there were any in England. |
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| Angus Toanimo | Tuesday, 14. February 2012, 02:11 Post #67 |
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The Fenian Claddagh without the crown symbolises the desire to be free from the rule of the British crown. The crown in the usual Claddagh stands for loyalty. |
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| OsullivanB | Tuesday, 14. February 2012, 02:19 Post #68 |
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I agree that the crown stands for loyalty, but think it is the mutual loyalty of lovers, not a base emblem of British rule. I am aware that the so called Fenian ring was devised to show opposition to the British crown, but I think this is a bit of late myth-making rather than a true interpretation of the original crowned heart. Fortunately the question is wholly unimportant. |
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| Angus Toanimo | Tuesday, 14. February 2012, 02:28 Post #69 |
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Exactly right.
The original crowned heart indeed had nothing to do with British rule at all, as you say. The Fenians adopted the crownless Claddagh, it was originally known and produced as the Dublin Claddagh, with two hearts. What that stood for, I don't know. |
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| Invictus_88 | Tuesday, 14. February 2012, 21:19 Post #70 |
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Rosary in the pocket is a pretty good indicator, you'd have thought. Do A&E staff generally check wallets for such cards anyway? |
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| Rose of York | Tuesday, 14. February 2012, 21:26 Post #71 |
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Welcome, Invictus, good to see you posting here A couple of years ago I was taken into A & E. No member of staff looked inside the bag a family member handed to the ambulance crew. It contained a card requesting that a ROMAN Catholic priest be called in the event of serious illness or accident. I suppose they might have done, to search for next of kin details if I had not been collected from my own home and was in mortal danger. Some people wear rosary beads or crucifixes around their necks, as jewellery, not understanding the significance. |
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| Angus Toanimo | Wednesday, 15. February 2012, 02:37 Post #72 |
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Indeed!
I've seen non-Catholics and Irish travellers wear them round their necks. Makes me angry. |
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| Rose of York | Wednesday, 15. February 2012, 02:53 Post #73 |
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If Rosary beads give the impression a hospital patient is a Catholic, some people would get a shock if they regained consciousness to find a Catholic priest was annointing them with oil. Try this: http://images.usatoday.com/life/_photos/2004/2004-06/18-rosaries-beckham-inside.jpg |
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| Invictus_88 | Wednesday, 15. February 2012, 10:02 Post #74 |
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Aren't Irish Travellers Catholic, and if they are what would be the problem? |
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| Anne-Marie | Wednesday, 15. February 2012, 10:31 Post #75 |
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Decades back before I received major surgery, a priest friend popped in to see me in my hospital room; Realising the patient in the next room was dying, he offered to pray over her, with the consequence that lady, seeing the priest blessing her, realised the severity of her condition... and promptly started recovering! That patient was not a Christian and did not speak English. |
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