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Flaunt the Faith by carrying a card
Topic Started: Friday, 3. February 2012, 21:52 (1,337 Views)
Rose of York
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There is no Claddagh ring on Google Images of masonic symbols.
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OsullivanB

That's probably because it has nothing whatsoever to to with Freemasonry.
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation." Herbert Spencer
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Rose of York
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That is what I thought all along, OSB. I think your first mention of the ring was misunderstood.
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OsullivanB

I think so. All I was pointing out was that many people with all sorts of associations wear things which are inconspicuous but carry a message to those "in the know". The Fainne is another.
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation." Herbert Spencer
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My bad, I did misconstrue your post, it appears, OsB...

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I prefer the Claddagh, without the crown ;)

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OsullivanB

As far as I know the crown is not a reference to England. There were Kings in Ireland before there were any in England.
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation." Herbert Spencer
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Tuesday, 14. February 2012, 02:06
As far as I know the crown is not a reference to England. There were Kings in Ireland before there were any in England.
The Fenian Claddagh without the crown symbolises the desire to be free from the rule of the British crown. The crown in the usual Claddagh stands for loyalty.
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I agree that the crown stands for loyalty, but think it is the mutual loyalty of lovers, not a base emblem of British rule. I am aware that the so called Fenian ring was devised to show opposition to the British crown, but I think this is a bit of late myth-making rather than a true interpretation of the original crowned heart. Fortunately the question is wholly unimportant.
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation." Herbert Spencer
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Tuesday, 14. February 2012, 02:19
I agree that the crown stands for loyalty, but think it is the mutual loyalty of lovers, not a base emblem of British rule.
Exactly right.

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I am aware that the so called Fenian ring was devised to show opposition to the British crown, but I think this is a bit of late myth-making rather than a true interpretation of the original crowned heart. Fortunately the question is wholly unimportant.


The original crowned heart indeed had nothing to do with British rule at all, as you say. The Fenians adopted the crownless Claddagh, it was originally known and produced as the Dublin Claddagh, with two hearts. What that stood for, I don't know.
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Monday, 13. February 2012, 12:55
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Sunday, 12. February 2012, 21:09
So would any of us carry a card identifying us as Catholic? Since I already carry cards identifying me as a driver, a member of the RSPB, a shopper at the CoOp and a borrower of library books in this county I suppose one more won't break the wallet
A card that identifies us as Catholic and requiring a Catholic priest in the event of an emergency/near death should be a must for all Catholics, since death without the "services" of a valid priest could *possibly be detrimental to our soul.
Rosary in the pocket is a pretty good indicator, you'd have thought. Do A&E staff generally check wallets for such cards anyway?
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Welcome, Invictus, good to see you posting here

A couple of years ago I was taken into A & E. No member of staff looked inside the bag a family member handed to the ambulance crew. It contained a card requesting that a ROMAN Catholic priest be called in the event of serious illness or accident. I suppose they might have done, to search for next of kin details if I had not been collected from my own home and was in mortal danger.

Some people wear rosary beads or crucifixes around their necks, as jewellery, not understanding the significance.
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Tuesday, 14. February 2012, 21:26
Welcome, Invictus, good to see you posting here
Indeed! :welwag:

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Some people wear rosary beads or crucifixes around their necks, as jewellery, not understanding the significance.


I've seen non-Catholics and Irish travellers wear them round their necks. Makes me angry.
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If Rosary beads give the impression a hospital patient is a Catholic, some people would get a shock if they regained consciousness to find a Catholic priest was annointing them with oil. Try this:

http://images.usatoday.com/life/_photos/2004/2004-06/18-rosaries-beckham-inside.jpg

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Wednesday, 15. February 2012, 02:37
Rose of York
Tuesday, 14. February 2012, 21:26
Welcome, Invictus, good to see you posting here
Indeed! :welwag:

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Some people wear rosary beads or crucifixes around their necks, as jewellery, not understanding the significance.


I've seen non-Catholics and Irish travellers wear them round their necks. Makes me angry.
Aren't Irish Travellers Catholic, and if they are what would be the problem?
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Rose of York
Wednesday, 15. February 2012, 02:53
If Rosary beads give the impression a hospital patient is a Catholic, some people would get a shock if they regained consciousness to find a Catholic priest was annointing them with oil.
Decades back before I received major surgery, a priest friend popped in to see me in my hospital room; Realising the patient in the next room was dying, he offered to pray over her, with the consequence that lady, seeing the priest blessing her, realised the severity of her condition... and promptly started recovering!
That patient was not a Christian and did not speak English.
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