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Flaunt the Faith by carrying a card
Topic Started: Friday, 3. February 2012, 21:52 (1,340 Views)
Gerard

OsullivanB
Saturday, 4. February 2012, 16:53
If a Mormon nurse starting telling me about faith when I was sick, I would probably complain.


Why?

It is a chance to say "I am a Christian"

Amd if we complain that means we contribute to a culture preventing christian nurses doing the same. Which might deprive some of a deathbed conversion.



Gerry
"The institutional and charismatic aspects are quasi coessential to the Church's constitution" (Pope John Paul II, 1998).
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Gerard

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Friday, 3. February 2012, 21:54
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A good idea.

However, the execution is spoilt by wallowing in the current fashion of the hierarchy to live in the past - to live in an old catholic culture that died out in the 60s.

1. Hardly any catholics now would identify with the rosary.
2. There are too few priests to expect to have them turn out in emergencies.

Gerry

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"The institutional and charismatic aspects are quasi coessential to the Church's constitution" (Pope John Paul II, 1998).
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I could suggest a more effective way of making the general public more aware of Catholicism. Organise a serious of talks and discussion in a public hall. I have yet to come across a single parish that reaches out to the public properly. They all advertise RCIA on their own premises, on indoor notice boards and in parish newsletters. The only people who get to hear about them are the people who already go into that church.

My card can be slotted in with a few other cards. Nobody but me and my husband ever get a chance to leaf through the lot and it is staying that way. If when I am standing in a queue the person next to me says "I see from one of your cards that you are a Catholic" my hackles will be up, it would have taken them quite an effort to read any of my cards.

The card carrying is a nice idea, but non effective.

People who come into my home see a crucifix, that shows my religious faith.
Keep the Faith!

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Gerard

I think the card is trying to do two things:

1. tell the bearer that they have a job to do and what it is
2. tell other people the bearer is a catholic.

It does the first one better than the second one.

A lapell badge des the second one much better.

Gerry
Edited by Gerard, Saturday, 4. February 2012, 21:40.
"The institutional and charismatic aspects are quasi coessential to the Church's constitution" (Pope John Paul II, 1998).
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I carry a simple card with me at all times that states:

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pete

Would it make the slightest difference in the case of emergency if the priest was Traditional or not Patrick? ; If you were dying, beggars can’t be choosers. Any ordained Catholic priest has the ability to administer the last rites, even priests who have been struck off. To state that only a Traditional priest will do limits your chances to almost zero. Would a priest who prayed the Divine Mercy prayer suffice? ; after all Our Lord Himself recommends this prayer and He didn’t say that it had to be administrated by a Traditional Priest.
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OsullivanB

Gerard
Saturday, 4. February 2012, 21:05
OsullivanB
Saturday, 4. February 2012, 16:53
If a Mormon nurse starting telling me about faith when I was sick, I would probably complain.


Why?

It is a chance to say "I am a Christian"

Amd if we complain that means we contribute to a culture preventing christian nurses doing the same. Which might deprive some of a deathbed conversion.



Gerry
When I've been very sick in hospital the last thing on my mind has been converting the nurses. Nor do I want them to be converting me.
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation." Herbert Spencer
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Patrick
Sunday, 5. February 2012, 11:54
I carry a simple card with me at all times that states:

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Nurse to Sister "This man wants a Traditonal Catholic priest but the phone numbers are all for priests in England, what am I to do, Sister?"

Sister to Nurse "No problem, send for the vicar at All Saints in Dundee, he's High Church Anglo Catholic, his church does Mass and confession and all the other Catholic services, I'm sure he will be OK for the patient. "
Keep the Faith!

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Saturday, 4. February 2012, 20:40
To include Latin would be like including Japanese! Or are you teasing, Carlo?
How is Latin like Japanese?

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CARLO
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OsullivanB

Carlo-san, almost every person in this country understands neither. :rofl:
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation." Herbert Spencer
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pete
Sunday, 5. February 2012, 19:56
Would it make the slightest difference in the case of emergency if the priest was Traditional or not Patrick? ; If you were dying, beggars can’t be choosers.
In the danger of death, I'm not absolutely sure, Pete, to tell you the truth. I'd *prefer* to receive the Traditional Sacrament from a Traditional Catholic priest, certainly. In fact, if a hospital nurse or member of teh public found that card on me, they could/would ring one of those numbers (I'd assume the nearest to my location) and I'd be almost guaranteed a Catholic priest - and it would certainly rule out the hypothetical situation Rose described.

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Any ordained Catholic priest has the ability to administer the last rites, even priests who have been struck off.


Any validly ordained priest.

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To state that only a Traditional priest will do limits your chances to almost zero.


I don't think so. Please don't attribute things to me that are simply unsaid, and untrue.

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Would a priest who prayed the Divine Mercy prayer suffice? ; after all Our Lord Himself recommends this prayer and He didn’t say that it had to be administrated by a Traditional Priest.


As for the Divine Mercy, what's that to do with anything? Does Our Lord recommend the Divine Mercy? That'd be quite remarkable, since his Vicar on Earth placed Sr Faustina's Diary on the Index of Forbidden Books in 1959 and all devotions to the Divine Mercy were ordered to cease, due to the Diary containing theological error in relation to God, if I remember rightly.
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http://www.catholic.org/saints/saint.php?saint_id=510
While she was in Vilnius, Faustina predicted that her message of Divine Mercy would be suppressed for some time, and appear to be "utterly undone" but that it would be accepted again.[2][24] On February 8, 1935, she wrote in her diary (Notebook I, item 378):
There will come a time when this work, which God is demanding so very much, will be as though utterly undone. And then God will act with great power, which will give evidence of its authenticity. It will be a new splendor for the Church, although it has been dormant in it from long ago.Over twenty years later, in 1959, her messages were suppressed by the Vatican, but were accepted again in 1978.[5][2]
Faustina wrote in her diary (Notebook I item 414) that on Good Friday April 19, 1935 Jesus told her that he wanted the Divine Mercy image publicly honored.[5] On Friday April 26, 1935 Father Sopocko delivered the first sermon ever on the Divine Mercy - and Faustina attended the sermon.[22]

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Monday, 6. February 2012, 02:19
Carlo-san, almost every person in this country understands neither. :rofl:
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Do they understand ANYTHING apart from EAST ENDERS ????

De profundis
Out of the depths


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CARLO
Edited by CARLO, Monday, 6. February 2012, 21:57.
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CARLO, for success how about having Urdu, Gaelic or Polish on your card? Nurses are dedicated to keeping people alive. A geriatric language could give out an unintended signal.

:tc: :rofl:
Keep the Faith!

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OsullivanB

East-Enders is one way of describing those who favour the ad orientem posture.
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation." Herbert Spencer
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