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| Do earthly families meet again in Heaven? | |
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| Topic Started: Sunday, 29. January 2012, 23:35 (637 Views) | |
| PJD | Wednesday, 1. February 2012, 18:36 Post #16 |
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You made the following point Anne-Marie: "Nice idea... but where do people get the idea that the next life is going to be a continuation of THIS form of life? I sometimes get fearful that it won't be long before folks want a full-size cinema screen there too!" As regards the mention made of childhood in heaven, we have already had a topic put on here, perhaps you would like to search back and read it. For myself it was quite moving. However...... I have given you the reference below:- "Glimpses of what Heaven may be like: The Sacredness of Childhood Now and for ever more Daniel O’Leary, a priest of the Leeds Diocese, is based at Our Lady of Graces Presbytery, Tombridge Crescent, Kinsley, West Yorkshire WF9 5HA. Reprinted with permission* by The Tablet. [4th September 2010 Edn] Retyped by Catholic Cyberforum, a lay led UK based discussion group from their printed copy E. & O. E. * Permission granted by Ignatius Kusiak, Publisher, The Tablet Publishing Company Ltd., 1 King Street Cloisters, Clifton Walk, London W6 OGY" PJD Edited by PJD, Wednesday, 1. February 2012, 18:41.
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| Rose of York | Wednesday, 1. February 2012, 20:52 Post #17 |
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'ere 'tis Sacredness of Childhood topic |
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| Derekap | Wednesday, 1. February 2012, 21:58 Post #18 |
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Is there not an event where someone asked Jesus if a woman married each of seven brothers as one by one they died, who would she be married to when she went to Heaven? The answer was not one one of them. |
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| Emee | Wednesday, 1. February 2012, 22:16 Post #19 |
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I don't think in Heaven people will be "married" to their spouses Derek as marriage is to do with furtherance of the species on this earth and I do not know if there will be any need for that in Heaven. Rather, I think those people who have had good marriages here in earth will maintain their close and unique relationship in Heaven - as I say love is eternal, it cannot die. Whether that will be still with sex or not God only knows - but the relationship will be something even better and I dare say transcend sex. |
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| Rose of York | Wednesday, 1. February 2012, 22:27 Post #20 |
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http://jmom.honlam.org/rsvce/ Saint Luke's Gospel
Jesus said that in Heaven people will not marry or be given in marriage. Did he ever say those who married before their lives on earth came to an end, would cease to be married if they went to Heaven? |
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| OsullivanB | Wednesday, 1. February 2012, 23:14 Post #21 |
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Rose, I rather think He did in that very passage. See also Matthew 22:23-30 and Mark 12:18-25. If the risen were still married to their earthly spouses, the Sadducess would have had a point. Jesus made it clear that the question of whose wife the seven-times married serial widow was could not arise because she wouldn't be anyone's wife/widow.
Edited by OsullivanB, Wednesday, 1. February 2012, 23:21.
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| "There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation." Herbert Spencer | |
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| Emee | Wednesday, 1. February 2012, 23:18 Post #22 |
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Good point Rose. My friend who is a Mormon says their church believes that if one has had "celestial" marriage on this earth one stays married to their spouse in the afterlife also. But they go one stage further and say they will still continue to have Heavenly babies! Maybe that's a bit extreme for Catholics but I do feel that where a couple have had a close, loving marriage here on this earth, and their spouse has effectively been their best friend, then knowing that "love is eternal" we can hope and pray to be together in a special friendship in the next life. I would go so far as to say this also extends to where people have had close and loving friendships of either gender. Love doesn't just stop, it is eternal, and therefore does not end in death. |
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| Deacon Robert | Wednesday, 1. February 2012, 23:20 Post #23 |
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Consider this: In heaven we shed our physical bodies where male and female are necessary for procreation. In heaven we become totally spiritual beings "in the image and likeness of God". God is neither male or female, but the best of each. In heaven the love is the primary direction. |
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The burden of life is from ourselves, its lightness from the grace of Christ and the love of God. - William Bernard Ullanthorne | |
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| Emee | Wednesday, 1. February 2012, 23:21 Post #24 |
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OsB Unlike the Mormons I'm not saying continued "marriage" I'm saying continued close friendship / relationship. God being love I believe loves to see us all friends together, including special friends. Even Jesus had a special friend - the apostle Jesus loved, St John. |
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| OsullivanB | Wednesday, 1. February 2012, 23:25 Post #25 |
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Emee, you may well be right. I have little idea about that, except that in the ambit of the perfect love of God I doubt we'll pay any attention to interpersonal relationships. |
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| Emee | Wednesday, 1. February 2012, 23:25 Post #26 |
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Deacon Robert As discussed before I think we will still be male and female for some reason. I am not sure what at present. The reason why I believe this is because Our Lady is quite clear still a Mother, still female. I believe the Saints are still in their genders also. The "woman or man no more" bit is to do with salvation being available for all, not that we will not be male or female anymore. Why gender is important to God I do not know, but for some reason He seems to want to retain it in Heaven. We'll just have to wait and see I suppose. |
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| Emee | Wednesday, 1. February 2012, 23:27 Post #27 |
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I think we will have interpersonal relationships OsB but they will be as they always should have been, full of the Spirit of God and perfect. |
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| OsullivanB | Wednesday, 1. February 2012, 23:33 Post #28 |
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He said we would be like the angels. All the ones we know about are men. So maybe that's the answer. The closing logion (114) of the apocryphal Gospel of St Thomas supports this theory: "Simon Peter said to them: 'Let Mary go away from us for women are not worthy of life.' Jesus said, 'Look, I will drag her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit similar to you. (But I say to you): 'Every woman who makes herself male will enter the kingdom of heaven.'" On second thoughts, maybe that's one of the reasons why we only have four gospels. |
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| Rose of York | Thursday, 2. February 2012, 00:17 Post #29 |
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I believe in ..................... the resurrection of the body, and the life everlasting. The resurrection of the body is unlikely to result in assexual homo sapiens. |
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| Rose of York | Thursday, 2. February 2012, 00:20 Post #30 |
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Stirrer! The Male chauvinistic bishops in the early church assumed angels were male, because they could not accept that a female could be all that important, so Raphael, Michael and Gabriel became names for baby boys. Ladies be comforted, the m.c. p. s assumed Lucifer was a bloke. |
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