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Do Animals Have Souls?; If they can go to heaven - can they be damned?
Topic Started: Wednesday, 2. December 2009, 19:57 (1,799 Views)
Emee
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Patrick your post cannot stir me up this evening.

You're still in my good books for your most charitable earlier (on topic) post on this thread...
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Powerofone

Once pets are admitted to heaven, then it will be very difficult to hold the borders tight. Soon every living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind will demand equal access. Where would it all end?
It's all very well having majestic herds of wildebeest sweeping across the Elysian plains, but what about the swarms of locusts and the plagues of rats? Wouldn't it tend to distract from the beatific vision?
One must also consider the resurrection of the body. Suppose one's last meal before the second coming was a prime rib of beef. On the following day, when all are gathered up in a Rapture of sorts, to whom will the succulent protein be allocated - it's original owner (the cow) or the person (who was nourished by the beef and whose cells incorporated the prime rib of beef)?
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Powerofone
Sunday, 6. December 2009, 23:23
Once pets are admitted to heaven, then it will be very difficult to hold the borders tight. Soon every living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind will demand equal access. Where would it all end?
It's all very well having majestic herds of wildebeest sweeping across the Elysian plains, but what about the swarms of locusts and the plagues of rats? Wouldn't it tend to distract from the beatific vision?
Great minds think alike. On page 1 of this discussion I asked about slugs, Deacon Robert thought I was winding him up.

If my dog has an immortal soul it stands to reason all mammals have them, so what about slugs, coral, amoeba, tarantula spiders, boa constrictors? If it is correct that they follow instinct would we be allowed to encage the animals that we consider to be a threat, or would it be impossible for them to kill our resurrected bodies? I don't fancy eternal strangulation or poisoning.
Keep the Faith!

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Powerofone
Sunday, 6. December 2009, 23:23
One must also consider the resurrection of the body. Suppose one's last meal before the second coming was a prime rib of beef. On the following day, when all are gathered up in a Rapture of sorts, to whom will the succulent protein be allocated - it's original owner (the cow) or the person (who was nourished by the beef and whose cells incorporated the prime rib of beef)?
When all are gathered up in a Rapture of sorts, to whom will Adam's rib be allocated - it's original owner or his missus?
Keep the Faith!

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Rose of York
Sunday, 6. December 2009, 23:35
If it is correct that they follow instinct would we be allowed to encage the animals that we consider to be a threat, or would it be impossible for them to kill our resurrected bodies? I don't fancy eternal strangulation or poisoning.
They won't strangle or poison us Rose, for "The lion will lie down with the lamb..." etc etc

Their natures will be changed in that self-preservation will no longer be an issue.
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If my nature is to be a biter of finger nails and a slurper of soup, will that too be changed?
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Emee
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:rofl:
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Emee
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I don't think we'll have any bad habits in Heaven P1.

Our talents may well stay with us though...
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Emee
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Oh, assuming we didn't bury them somewhere...
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Ducks in Heaven
Three men die and go to Heaven. When
they get there, St. Peter is standing at the

gates of Heaven. He says, "Now you may

enter Heaven. But you must promise not

to step on any ducks." So they all

promised not to step on any ducks. The

gates of Heaven opened.

To their horror the grounds are covered

with ducks.

After 5 minutes the first man stepped on a

duck.Instantly St. Peter appeared and

tied an ugly women to him and said, " For

your punishment you are now bound

together for all eternity.


After 10 minutes the second man

stepped on a duck , again, instantly St.

Peter appeared with an even uglier

women and again, ties them both

together and condemnes them for all

eternity.


The third man was terrified. He

tookspecial precautions not to step on

any ducks. If there is one thing he hates

it's an ugly woman. On the one year

aniversary of his arrival St. Peter comes to

him and leads him to a beach at sunset

where he meets the most beautiful

woman in the world. He says to St.

Peter," What have I done to deserve this?"

"I don't know about you ", said the women,

"But I stepped on a damn duck!"
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Emee
Sunday, 6. December 2009, 23:13
Patrick your post cannot stir me up this evening.

You're still in my good books for your most charitable earlier (on topic) post on this thread...
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Powerofone
Sunday, 6. December 2009, 23:48
If my nature is to be a biter of finger nails and a slurper of soup, will that too be changed?
Of course, for you will have no fingernails to chew on or soup to slurp!
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Patrick
Sunday, 6. December 2009, 22:58
Emee
Sunday, 6. December 2009, 22:12
No we won't be dead Derek.

God Willing we will be more fully alive than we've ever been...
Us menfolk don't care, we'll be too occupied with the Beatific Vision...

We may occasionally ask you women to "pass the remote"...

:smoker:

Now that raises another question

Is there gender in Heaven ? Will there be male and female ? Might be like the old days at Sunday Mass in Ireland,
women on the left, men (at least those not standing at the back) on the right of the Church.
What doth it profit a man if he gains the whole world but suffers the loss of his soul
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Monday, 7. December 2009, 00:20
Patrick
Sunday, 6. December 2009, 22:58
Emee
Sunday, 6. December 2009, 22:12
No we won't be dead Derek.

God Willing we will be more fully alive than we've ever been...
Us menfolk don't care, we'll be too occupied with the Beatific Vision...

We may occasionally ask you women to "pass the remote"...

:smoker:

Now that raises another question

Is there gender in Heaven ? Will there be male and female ? Might be like the old days at Sunday Mass in Ireland,
women on the left, men (at least those not standing at the back) on the right of the Church.
No gender at all. Souls have no need of gender - indeed angels do not have genders, we only genderise them (or at least Scritpure has) as part of visualising them, if that kinda makes any sense?
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No pets, no women? What's the position on drink and football there? Only it's not sounding too good so far

John
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