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Praying in churches of other denominations; Split from the Ordinariate topic
Topic Started: Monday, 28. November 2011, 14:28 (1,541 Views)
pete

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My neighbours drove to their little country Church in Wales church rather than go to the one down the road as they did last year and afterwards the whole congregation went to the local pub for mince pies, ale and a sing song which they described as magical

Who bought the first round John? :rofl:
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John Sweeney
Wednesday, 21. December 2011, 00:10
When you strip away all the pretentious language and convoluted arrangement s around the Ordinarwhatnot, in essence the powers that be have acknowledged that we are all one and the same and I am very happy with that long overdue decision
We are only the same in so far as all Christian faiths acknowledge there are three persons in one God.

Christ founded one Church, he appointed a leader, whose place was handed down over a period of 2000 years.

The non Catholic denominations have no God given authority to teach. Indeed there are extremist sects that preach that the Catholic Church is the "Beast" or the "Whore of Babylon" and the Pope the anti Christ.

I have attended Methodist and Church of England services. For what it is worth my opinion is, all things should be done in moderation, we need to be selective about what other churches will receive our courtesy visits - or emergency visits, in the case of Catholics who just cannot get to a Catholic church.
Keep the Faith!

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There is no state law to stop me founding a "Church" that preaches the Trinity. I could make everything else up, selectively quoting scriptural verses out of context, the purpose being to convince people the mainstream churches are a danger to their souls. Naturally my preaching would regularly draw attention to the Biblical command to pay tithes. As pastor I would need a large house with sufficient rooms to provide offices, counselling rooms, and accommodation for my guests, who would supposedly be visiting in the service of the Lord. The house would be on my land, it would be my property, and there would be no silly Canon Law to obey, because I would bear all the responsibility, therefore nobody else would have access to financial information. If there is a legal requirement to register as a charity, I could rustle up some good pals to join the board of trustees.

The trick to filling the church up is to make everything happy happy happy, no dirges on Good Friday, convince all the people who are trying to get over traumatic experiences like divorce, widowhood, or unemployment that with a dose of love bombing our community can make them know they are loved to death.

Simple isn't it?
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Gerard

Yes,
too simple.
And, of course, nothing equivalent has ever been found in our church.
Has there?

Gerry
"The institutional and charismatic aspects are quasi coessential to the Church's constitution" (Pope John Paul II, 1998).
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Gerry of course there has been dishonesty in some parishes and some dioceses, that does not alter the fact that ours is the Church with God given authority to teach the TRUTH. The point I was trying to make was regarding John's suggestion that "When you strip away all the pretentious language and convoluted arrangement s around the Ordinarwhatnot, in essence the powers that be have acknowledged that we are all one and the same." Denominations do not all share the same teachings and nobody could argue they do not all have seven valid sacraments. Some do not have anything resembling Mass or even a Communion service. To put it in a nutshell I dispute John's claim that we are not all one and the same." Any individual can found a church, call it Christian and teach whatever they feel like teaching, for good or bad motives.
Keep the Faith!

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Rose, I expressed myself poorly not for the first time. I meant that the recent moves have confirmed what I think I already knew , that is that Anglicans and Catholics are more or less identical in belief. We have allowed ourselves to be convinced that there are insoluble differences around transubstantiation and for us Catholics this has seemed like a massive barrier but in essence there is little difference between even a so called "Low" Anglican veneration for the Communion service and our own belief in the Real Presence. No difference at all, it seems to me when we talk of High Anglican belief. Indeed, this Real Presence idea is a considerable watering down of the beliefs I was taught in Catholic schools in the 50s and 60s and this is a recognition I think by our Church that nothing is quite as clear-cut as we would like it to be. Certainly. I don't think that our Church is the only one with , as you say, God-given authority to teach the Truth. Why , then, do we recognise Orthodox holy orders?
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